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She has dominated her childrens' lives with little concern for anyones' feeling but her own. She is now in a wonderful assisted living and her dementia (I think) has illuminated her personality into a person who I can no longer bear to be around. She has again managed to alienate everyone around her with her insults and insensitivity. She is nasty and uncooperative with the aids (who are wonderful) And complains, complains, complains about everyone, everything and blames my sister and myself for the air she breathes. I am sick of her and I don't want to visit her anymore and don't feel that my adult children need to be manipulated like I was and be around her negative attitude anymore. I hate feeling obligated to have her at my house as I have every holiday of our lives and force my children to "tolerate" her for my sake. The guilt is unbearable but I feel that now being 60 years old I would like to feel that this person does not dominate my whole life. I would like to have a happy holiday for a change and have my children WANT to come home (without Grandma always there)
There has never been any pleasing her before and now she sends me into bouts of depression that I have a hard time shaking. Am I alone? I feel like a selfish person but I don't like her now and never did before. The guilt is killing me.

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My mom's always talking about my son's baseball years , the best years of there retirement.

When she does, my thoughts where they were the hardest time of my life.

Recently I figured out why, my parents still my life, my friends became her friends, I couldn't be myself because they where always there. If I didn't go to an away game I would get disapovel from mom. If I got mad at the ex for being to involved in his childrens sports , I'd get crap.

One time my son got beat up but some kids, I didn't tell mom, then got grief from her because someone else told her.

My in-laws came, they were not like that at all. I usually just hung with them, because mom and dad where to busy stealing my life!

Looking back I'm a bit annoyed at myself for letting that happen
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You are not alone sis!! I'm going thru a very similar situation, and there are days and events and holidays, that the thought creeps in " this would be so much nicer if she'd just hush, or go away!" And then I feel so guilty. I wish I knew what both of us could do, but I don't. But... You are NOT alone!
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Unhappy needs to start a new thread dealing with her issues. Getting mixed up with other people's problems is really confusing.
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Yes, but unhappy posted an hour ago.
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This is a very old post.
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Unhappy, so sorry, go to the question section on top , and ask this again , you will get more replies, and it's easier to correspond with you.

Also I didn't look , but if you did fill out your profile page, do so , it much easier on us answering your questions.

You don't have to put up with this there is always away out
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You are not alone, I have an elderly father, I'm disabled myself and make very little income on SSI and have no choice but to live here with him, also no one else is here in the day to take care of him(so to speak). He had a minor stroke 3 years ago, it messed his vision up some and he is a bit wobbly on his feet, and has neuropathy,other than that physically he's capable of making a full recovery yet he makes his life worse and worse on me. Instead of eating healthy, exercising, doing physical therapy and stopping drinking everyday, he does all the above and more extremely unhealthy habits that only make his situation worse and I haven't even mentioned the emotional, verbal, and psychological abuse he has within him. He uses the stroke as a crutch and blames his nasty behavior on it but it was 3 years ago and was minor. He's always been abusive physically and extremely emotionally, verbally and psychologically, now his "stroke" intensified it, so he says. He tries to hit my brother and I and he has numerous times, he even threatens to kill us. I know i need to get out of his home asap and am going to and when I do I will never look back or speak to him again. He has made me hate him and not want to have him anywhere in my life, and he has run everyone out, my mother, my step mother, my half sister and all of his relatives and he's never had any real friends because of the way he talks to and treats people. He is so miserable he hates everyone he's racist and threatens violence to control situations especially people. It's unhealthy, not normal and he continues to lie to his doctors, doesn't tell them about his unhealthy eating habits, his drinking beer every evening, smoking pot every evening, all he does is complain to the doctors he's not getting any better and to anyone who will isten like he wants sympathy. Yet he doesn't tell the doctors about what he's truly doing that's making his minor symptoms of the minor stroke major symptoms. I don't know what to do, he even took the car my brother gave to me and put it in his own name before I could give the first down payment to my brother and put it in my name, he did this for control and to keep me stuck to abuse and control me. I feel there's no way out and I don't know what to do I'm stuck because of his ways and I hate this man. I don't know how to ask for help to get out of here, he took my car and he made it where he knows I have nowhere to go and no one to turn to for help. I want to know if anyone has any resources or answers to help me get out of this situation, I'm even contemplating on telling his doctors the truth of his habits and behaviors towards life and people,ei; his family. Anyone have any advice or resources to get him permanently out of my life and for me to get out? I'm in Texas.
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I have lived that same life. I am her primary care giver now and it has ruined my life, soul and everything in between. My siblings have nothing to do with taking care of her, but sure want to tell me how to do it. Her and I have never had a relationship with her. She has sundowners now which gets worse around 4 o'clock everyday. It's like a switch went all. And now she is trying to deal with the loss of her sister from Alzheimer's. Unfortunately something I probably will have. With my mom, she makes the third generation so far. I am 63 and don't want my kids to have to deal with me. Please take care of yourself.
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Ellie, that's a nice post for anyone to read that's going through something similar. 🙏🙂‍↕️💓
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Oh--my darling!! I understand exactly what you're feeling! My mother is the exact same way. She's had an underlying mental health condition all of her life, which I can't pinpoint but which is a toxic blend of malignant narcissism and anger and rage and hate and resentment. And she raised me and I survived! I just spent five days with her and her elderly husband (who will be 90 in October), and she's pissed off at him for being old! I fear for his safety, I really do… But I understand exactly how you feel and I, too, I'm looking for resources and input on how to navigate. She lives in another state (thankfully) and I only see her a couple times a year. But she's 86 now, and when I was there she started repeating stories within a minute or so of each other and would launch on me if I made any type of observational comment about anything happening around me and she took it personally… It's extremely exhausting and excruciatingly painful, and you end up blaming yourself for not being able to know how to handle it or thinking you caused this in someway ! You're not to blame, I'm learning that there are many resources on dealing with nasty, hateful, aging parents who have been that way their whole lives… I wish you Godspeed, good luck, be gentle with yourself and know that it's not your fault at all! You probably spent your whole life thinking it is your fault… But don't believe it for one second. Your mother is lucky that she still has people who love her… Hang in there!
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Hi Bluebells - so sorry to hear what you're going thru. I'm feeling it today myself. It's all very hard. I hope things lighten for you - and to do whatever you can to take care of yourself during these tough times.
Sending best wishes ~
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I am glad I have found this post as I am feeling alone and struggling with similar feelings too. For the past year I have been caring for my dad who had a stroke and on set dementia. He is also incontinent of urine. He is manipulative and controlling. He has asked me to sell my home and move in with him even though I have an 18 year old daughter that lives with me whom he also expects to care for him. Our home is our safe place with memories built up over the years. I am a 50 year old woman working 12 hour shifts Monday to Friday. He is basically trapping me and my daughter into being his full time carer. The weekends where I would like and need to re charge my batteries and do nice things is taken up with visiting him, shopping, making meals and sorting his medications. However hard I try to be positive and keep the visits as short and as productive as I can I leave feeling drained, depressed, guilty and emotionally void.
He was abusive to my mother when she was at the end of her life -so much so that safeguarding had to get involved and placed her in a nursing home. I feel like I have PTSD remembering how tortured my mother was and also so resentful that I had to care for my mother as a single mother with a toddler because he could not cope and now I have to care for him.
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My mother's going to be 86 years old. She has always been asleep at the wheel and never a great mother. We were never protected, hugged, loved, emotionally built up and I have a lot of hatred for her for my childhood. But her insensitivity and cruel cold streak is really getting unbearable and so obnoxious that I can't stand to even be on the phone with her for 2 minutes if it's 1 minute she finds a way to be abusive and annoying and you are definitely not alone. I'm going through cancer and she doesn't care at all hasn't changed her horrible personality to help me one bit. Sometimes you just have to let go because you can't choose your parents or your family. My older sister has been a no-show for me as well on an emotional level. She was there for 2 minutes and then for the past 8 months not one word. She's always been a narcissist and very abusive and jealous of me and so you know what? Keep your head up high be a warrior go through it on your own you don't need the support of people who don't make you feel good and who only hurts you and creates stress. That's why I got sick in the first place. I have too many horrible people around me causing stress and so let it go and let God.
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I’m sorry all of this is happening (happened). Her past behavior is part of her current behavior. You don’t deserve this. and after realizing the date of this post, I’m thinking she may be has passed away.

I wouldn’t waste any energy not liking her. And definitely don’t spend any energy feeling guilty. I wouldn’t be able to stand her either. I would treat her well and then turn around and put her right out of my mind. We do not want to spend her energy overthinking their behavior. It is such a waste of time.

I would have minimal visits. Making sure she’s cared for. And as comfortable as possible. And hopefully by now you’re done with all of that.

I’ve worked for a woman that behaves very similar. We are now going on the eighth year. She has been negative and depressed all of her life, and as she has become aleven older with some dementia, it is even worse. She drank forever and now being in an assisted living, she cannot drink. So then we deal with being a dry drunk plus the negative behavior plus the dementia. She is very hateful towards others and mumbles a lot of nasty things under her breath. Everything is a negative. Everything is hateful. She is definitely what I call toxic.

I am encouraged by many others to take care of myself do what I can for her and then put her out of my mind and take care of myself.

I’m sorry this is your mom that behaves (behaved) this way I can’t even imagine if this woman were my mom. I always think I’ll do my best job and thank goodness I receive a paycheck.

Take good care
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This post should have been closed since it’s from 2011
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Justaguy,

I feel your pain and I am sorry that you are going through hell with your mom.

Walk away from her when she starts her foolishness. Don’t be her audience in her dramatic performances. Let her become a solo act in an empty theatre.

Smile on your way out! I have done this successfully with people that I don’t wish to be around. It’s extremely gratifying!

I have absolutely no desire to argue with a stupid person. Ignorance can be overcome. Stupidity is another story.

My grandmother was an angel from heaven. My husband’s grandmother was pure evil who tried to be a dictator to everyone in her life. People like this know who to latch onto. They target vulnerable people.

Ha! She succeeded with her husband. My husband’s grandfather was a sweetheart, devoted to his wife and refused to get a divorce due to being a devout Catholic.

Everyone told him to leave her but he couldn’t find the courage to leave. Divorce was very much frowned upon at that time. Sadly, the man never retired from his job because he didn’t want to be alone with her.

When he got cancer, the first words out of her mouth were, “What about me?” She didn’t give a rat’s a** about her husband or anyone else. Her husband left her with a mansion uptown and tons of money but nothing was ever enough for her.

Unfortunately, he died a broken man.

She died completely alone in the hospital where she continued to spew hate towards everyone. She wrote hate mail to all of us before she died. It’s sad and rather pathetic to see people living in so much misery.

She told me before I married my husband that she EXPECTED me to be at her house every Sunday for dinner! I said to her, “That is NOT happening!” and I walked away.

She lied and told everyone that her only daughter, my sweet mother in law was “faking” her cancer! I honestly don’t know how my mother in law survived her childhood with that woman!

Plan your escape as soon as possible. Then one day, all of this heartache will be nothing more than a distant memory.

You do not have to live in pain forever, nor do you have to have vengeance in your heart. You can simply live in peace.

Don’t ever allow anyone to hurt you or own a piece of your heart and soul after you leave them. Freedom is a beautiful thing.

Wishing you the very best in life!
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@JustAGuy1982


Your mother behaves as she does because the people she behaves this way to have always allowed it.

Don't make yourself a prisoner to your parents care needs. You have a right to have a life and to be treated with basic human respect and dignity. Also, no one can be put on a guilt trip unless they are willing to make the voyage.

The next time your mother gets 'mouthy' or abusive with you, look her square in the face and tell her to go f*** herself and give it right back to her. She sounds like a bully and you should treat her like one. I'm sure she'll fold like a cheap suit the second someone stands up to her.

Let me tell you something. No one has to automatically respect their parents or tolerate abusive behavior because they are our parents.

Anything beyond basic human respect is EARNED not guaranteed. If your mother wants to be treated with respect by you she can start treating you with respect.
If she doesn't, then cut her out of your life. Go totally 'Gray Rock' with her. You don't have to have a relationship with a person like her. No one does.

You'd be doing yourself a favor by moving away. You can still have a relationship with your father.
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I wouldn’t be concerned about this post going anywhere. It’s been around for years and years! 😊
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Please don't take this post down. A lot of us need to see the experiences of others who have moms that are so terribly difficult.

It helps to see I'm not alone in wishing her life would end and that helps me have a little less guilt about that wish.
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LaraMara77,

I doubt if you can legally force your mom to get on a plane.

You desperately need to see an elder law attorney in your state. It has helped me so much. See some of my old posts.

Hugs to you.
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JustAGuy1982, I hope things get better for you. She’s only 67, a year younger than me. You can be at this for a very long time.

Try to figure out what you need to do to get some distance from her. You matter too.
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JustAGuy1982 - your story is heartbreaking. You deserve some happiness in this life! Please get away from your mother while you still can.
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WHAT TO DO WITH SUCH A MOTHER? ANY LEGAL ADVISE? I cannot afford ANY nursing home costs for her. There are much cheaper alternatives abroad but how can I make her board the plane? I AM READY TO COMMIT SUICIDE AT THIS POINT!!! Please, someone tell me about legal steps that I could take to put her on a plane, please!
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You know, this post reminds me of a woman who I knew years ago. She had a drunk for a husband and a bossy invalid mother-inlaw. She ran a tourist home, did illustrations for childrens books and cleaned the tourist home wearing a stop watch. She had a lot of family issues. The verbal abuse from her mother in-law and the drunk husband sent her over the edge. She was later diagnosed with bipolar disorder and became suicidal.

You cannot take verbal abuse or any abuse for that matter thinking that it is just rolling off your back. Eventually, it catches up with you.
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True, this post has been helpful for many people. Some older posts aren’t relevant though and those can be removed.

Posts like this one can still be useful for others to read.

I have not been able to figure out how AgingCare closes posts. Lots of great posts are shut down because they don’t seem to be placed in the rotation cycle.
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No don't take this down. This is where I leave my darkest feelings. It is not easy being my mother's daughter. Most people I know have had normal mothers and cannot relate. This is my go to place.
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No, don't take this post down. It helped me when I was dealing with my brother's crazy ex who managed to alienate all of her children and me for four years. I had to deal with her yesterday at a funeral. Nothing wrong with her brain, just a weird, bossy and eccentric dressing woman. Everybody else was dressed decently. She came to the funeral wearing a plaid short skirt with boots at 76 years old! Even her friends she invited were dressed nicely for a funeral. I think these people were mean and bossy when they are younger and when old age really sets in there is hell to pay.

Years ago, my grandfather choked his granddaughter when she was trying to administer care to him and my mother had to go in and make him stop. He was another mean man and would beat his wife. It was mainly the two oldest granddaughters who stayed home and took care of him while the parents worked. He abused the hell out of them too.
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My mom has always been a mouthy control freak. I remember meeting people she worked with, and they all talked about her behind her back. They hated her because she was so bossy and hateful. You do this, you do that. When she became disabled in her early 50s this aggression got thrown on me and my father. She no longer had people to treat like garbage several hours a week, and we were the only ones around.

She is now going to be 67, and it's just crazy. It's always everyone is against her. She ridicules my father for having cancer, tells him he is stupid all the time. I work a high stress job, but the real stress is dealing with her. I often say it's sad I can get along with anyone in the world, but my mother. As soon as I am off work it's how useless I am. I am a failure. It's also endless guilt trips to make me feel pathetic.

The part that hurts worst of all, I am disabled. I have been for 15 years since a work related accident in my mid twenties. I have no life outside of work because I have given all of my free time to my parents. I am constantly being screamed at, which aggravates a headache condition. The endless stress is starting to have a strong affect on my health. I am planning on relocating, but the housing market is abysmal, especially with what I can afford.

She has become such a psychotic pathological liar, and she never understands anything anyone says. She takes everything the wrong way and then it's take it out on me and my father. Her doctors and neighbors think she is a sweet little old lady, but she deserves an academy award for her acting.

Somedays, I just want to die to get away from it. I'm one man, I never asked for this, and I never deserved the hell I am put through. The other people who left comments are the only reason I am still breathing. They have left me feeling a little less lonely in this world.
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This "very old post" helped me tremendously at 4am this morning in Feb 2024. I felt like I was drowning from all the emotions that are coming with dealing with my elderly abusive mother. While it was overwhelming to see a small slice of just how many of us go through this heartache, and how bad it can be, it was also somehow comforting to know I wasn't alone. And that it wasn't in my head. So thank you for leaving the post up and for providing those like me the solace of the words of others who are walking this incredibly difficult path. I see you. And maybe someone down the line will see me.
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