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My dad hasn't seen my sisters son for nearly two years and sadly he has died. My dad has heart and kidney disease and is 93. Do I tell him and how do I tell him?
We fell out with my sister and her daughter but not his grandson.
hi again i had prepared myself to tell me dad this morning only to see my dad in bed not feeling to good and having a bad day. I will try and tell him tomorrow i am worried that my sister or niece will try and come to tell him even though people have said he is to frail. I feel in such a state at the moment because i am trying to be normal with my dad and yet i keep crying for my dear nephew. thanks again for your supporting words it really helps
thank you so much for your replies i am going to tell my dad. i feel i am abit stronger and am coming to tems with it my self. i just hope he forgives me for not telling him sooner. i feel sick to the stomach right now i just hope he is ok once i have told him
Well I think he should be told and let the chips fall as they may. Think ahead. How would it be 6 months from now to have to say, “Oh by the way your (whatever) died last year.” Better to face the result now. Better for him; better for you. Because it will be over and not hanging over your head.
I told my wife (84 with dementia) that her sister (age 94) had died and it was a pretty damn rough 2 hours. Rough! But it got the job done. The air was clear and no pussyfooting around, no keeping the guard up, no accidental reference. And life went on.
Yes, I believe you should tell him. Telling him demonstrates respect that you have for your dad's feelings and will allow your dad to honor his grandson's memory instead of maybe wondering, "I wonder why _________ doesn't get in touch more often."
Also, your dad could inadvertently discover that his grandson died and the fall-out from that could be worse than if you told him to begin with.
I understand why you'd want to protect your dad but he has a right to know. If you don't tell him you'll be lying to him everyday for the rest of his life.
This is a good question, I'd like to know the answer to it as well. My father's sister passed a few months ago and my mother chose not to tell him. It's understandable why she didn't tell him - he was in the VA at the time and could not go to her funeral due to his limitations. He still doesn't know and I'm worried that the rest of the family is going to get in touch with him and tell him and then he'll get pissed at us for not telling him....
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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thanks again for your supporting words it really helps
I told my wife (84 with dementia) that her sister (age 94) had died and it was a pretty damn rough 2 hours. Rough! But it got the job done. The air was clear and no pussyfooting around, no keeping the guard up, no accidental reference. And life went on.
Also, your dad could inadvertently discover that his grandson died and the fall-out from that could be worse than if you told him to begin with.
I understand why you'd want to protect your dad but he has a right to know. If you don't tell him you'll be lying to him everyday for the rest of his life.
Yeah, so what do you do?