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We are now unable to pay the facility any more money, since they take her SSD. Will they sue us for the extra money they want? We don’t know what to do next. Any advice
Just read your post again. Is this a Community where you transfer from Independent living to an Assisted living and then to Nursing care? If so, you may need a lawyer to read that contract. My Aunt was in one of these. The lump sum only covered the Skilled Nursing. Up to that point the resident is responsible for the rent in the IL and the rent and care in the AL. Its not until Skilled nursing is needed that the lump sum is used and only a % of that. Once that is gone, then the facility applies for Medicaid. You must be able to afford the Community up to that point.
So, now Mom needs to transition to skilled nursing and the lump sum should pay for that. You need to read the contract that was signed and talk to the Director. If you don't get anywhere with them, then a lawyer is needed.
The previous posts under this name have been the resident complaining about call buttons and not getting their pills. Is this now a third party or the same person. Please do not write in 3rd party, it is very confusing.
Again, the next step if the resident can't afford to pay for an AL is a Nursing home with Medicaid pending. From previous posts, the resident has not liked the AL anyway. Maybe better cared for in a Nursing facility.
The way you worded this makes me wonder. How do they "take" it. When someone words something like this its because Medicaid is paying for the person's care and their SS is required to offset the cost of that care.
So if you are paying Mom has no assets? In my State if you private pay for an AL for at least two years you can apply for Medicaid if the AL will except it.
Time to move Mom to a LTC facility that takes Medicaid. I am surprised if haven't been paying you haven't been given a 30 day notice. You are responsible for the balance if you signed the contract as the responsible party.
I am sorry to hear that you are using your money for your Mother's care, or that you WERE. What will you do when, in age you require care of your own. I am sad to say this but it takes a lifetime AND some good luck to make enough money to keep us safe and able to take care of ourselves in old age. LOTS of luck and lots of savings. Your Mom may not be able to stay in assisted living. It is normally more expensive than nursing homes, and medicaid doesn't pay for it. If your Mom requires financial aid a move and application for medicaid may be needed. I would consult an elder law attorney with a list of your Mom's current assets and living situation. Do not pay your Moms bills for her care of any kind. You are not responsible for her care. Speak to the Assisted Living administration. Now that your Mom is out of money they need to know this. They will tell you if they accept any medicaid and keep someone; it would be unusual. They may have a social worker who can assist you if you are POA with application for medicaid and with ideas on transfer to nursing home. Wishing you good luck.
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Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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So, now Mom needs to transition to skilled nursing and the lump sum should pay for that. You need to read the contract that was signed and talk to the Director. If you don't get anywhere with them, then a lawyer is needed.
The previous posts under this name have been the resident complaining about call buttons and not getting their pills. Is this now a third party or the same person. Please do not write in 3rd party, it is very confusing.
Again, the next step if the resident can't afford to pay for an AL is a Nursing home with Medicaid pending. From previous posts, the resident has not liked the AL anyway. Maybe better cared for in a Nursing facility.
The way you worded this makes me wonder. How do they "take" it. When someone words something like this its because Medicaid is paying for the person's care and their SS is required to offset the cost of that care.
So if you are paying Mom has no assets? In my State if you private pay for an AL for at least two years you can apply for Medicaid if the AL will except it.
Time to move Mom to a LTC facility that takes Medicaid. I am surprised if haven't been paying you haven't been given a 30 day notice. You are responsible for the balance if you signed the contract as the responsible party.
Start by reading the contract terms and get a good CERTIFIED eldercare attorney if you have questions.
Your Mom may not be able to stay in assisted living. It is normally more expensive than nursing homes, and medicaid doesn't pay for it. If your Mom requires financial aid a move and application for medicaid may be needed. I would consult an elder law attorney with a list of your Mom's current assets and living situation. Do not pay your Moms bills for her care of any kind. You are not responsible for her care.
Speak to the Assisted Living administration. Now that your Mom is out of money they need to know this. They will tell you if they accept any medicaid and keep someone; it would be unusual. They may have a social worker who can assist you if you are POA with application for medicaid and with ideas on transfer to nursing home.
Wishing you good luck.