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my 89 yr old mom was reported to county seniors service, they want 24/7 caregiver move in with some one. or someone move in withe her . she was reported that she was out lost.
If the county can't ensure that a safety plan is in place for your mom, they'll have to assert control with court permission. The risk are that if she continues alone and walks away and gets hit by a car, lost in the woods, attacked by a stranger and dies. If she's not able to look out for herself, someone has to protect her.
The initial question was about your mom, though. Not your dad. I was not suggesting you'd be charged with elder abuse. What I asked was, if the county wants your mom supervised, what is your issue with that? You need to be careful to do what they request. Have someone move in with her or have her move in with someone. Wasn't that your original question? :-)
Bella, as long as he's not living WITH you, you're not going to be charged with anything. In the above, the elder was living WITH the brother and he was not supervising her properly.
If you dad returns to his home, and you've made it clear to him and to the folks at AL that you are NOT going to be available to supervise him, no one is going to blame you.
Work with the folks at the AL; if necessary the social worker or director of nursing can alert APS that he is discharging himself and will be without supervision.
And I am his POA, so what are my risks for being charged for elderly abuse ? He would be getting Help At Home, we are very close neighbors, and I would be checking on him also, but my caregiving for him will be minimal. Only because he refuses to do what he needs to do to stay healthy, he's been like this forever . I have had numerous comments on here all with great suggestions and I do know he needs to stay where he's at. The move won't be happening anytime soon but that is definitely my dad's plans and I need to plan and prepare myself so I don't get into trouble if he gets hurt or something
This is what I am afraid of, elder abuse charges. My dad is currently in assisted-living and he's planning on returning to his home soon. He needs to stay in assisted-living and I have had that dreadful talk with him about staying there and he continues to say he's fine and can handle it at home. he's a very good show timer with his doctors
Yes, they can remove her. I have experience with GA APS. Mom lived with brother. Brother at work. Mom "out wandering". APS called. Mom removed from home, taken to ER for eval and then sent to a group home. Brother charged with "elder abuse". If your mom was out wandering, what do you suggest for her? Do you not want her to move in with someone or for someone to move in with her? The county is just looking out for her welfare.
We had no idea mthr was wandering. She sounded fine on the phone and denied anything like that happening. APS documented several wandering incidents where she drove out to see people at the hospital and local nursing home and then forgot where she was or who she was visiting, and the police took her home once when some tourists noticed her wandering near her house and picked her up. These were mandatory reporters who were reporting elder self-abuse, not the random person on the street calling APS with an unsubstantiated report.
APS was right - the doc they took her to was very kind and evaluated her, and we arrived the next day. Turns out she was severely anemic because she had a bleeding cancer. Dementia was just starting, so it really was the cancer that was making her confused. Trust APS. This is not their first rodeo, and in most of our cases, this is the first time our moms have been seriously ill and we don't recognize it.
County APS (adult protective services) can pursue a court order for "protective custody" and place her in a facility. Please don't let it come to this, you will regret it.
They would have to build a case based on interviews with family, doctor, etc. they will then try to involve family to jointly evaluate options to keep mom safe.
They can't force you or mom to do anything; however if mom is in imminent danger to herself or others...wandering would qualify, and family can't or won't step in, then yes, this is part of building case and they can move her from home.
Suggest you try to work together as much as possible but don't let them bully you to guardianship, etc. understand what u are getting into first. Then decide what's best for mom and family.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
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Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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If you dad returns to his home, and you've made it clear to him and to the folks at AL that you are NOT going to be available to supervise him, no one is going to blame you.
Work with the folks at the AL; if necessary the social worker or director of nursing can alert APS that he is discharging himself and will be without supervision.
APS was right - the doc they took her to was very kind and evaluated her, and we arrived the next day. Turns out she was severely anemic because she had a bleeding cancer. Dementia was just starting, so it really was the cancer that was making her confused. Trust APS. This is not their first rodeo, and in most of our cases, this is the first time our moms have been seriously ill and we don't recognize it.
They can't force you or mom to do anything; however if mom is in imminent danger to herself or others...wandering would qualify, and family can't or won't step in, then yes, this is part of building case and they can move her from home.
Suggest you try to work together as much as possible but don't let them bully you to guardianship, etc. understand what u are getting into first. Then decide what's best for mom and family.