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I am a male in my 50’s my mom is 87. I don’t live with my mother but she lives at a community for older adults. It’s one step below assisted living. I recently posted that my mom treats me more like a “default husband” instead of her grown son. The one thing that I hate about how my mom communicates and interacts with me is that it stereotypically how a woman would communicate with a male in a romantic relationship. "happy wife happy life". It’s beyond being that she wants me to be a “momma’s boy”, this is exactly how she interacted with my dad. She does not have dementia or Alzheimer’s. Her mother did the exact thing to her grown son, and my Aunt did the same thing to her son. It’s a very unhealthy and in the past 2 years, gotten much worse. She’s called me by my dad’s name a few times which I corrected her on. She made my dad miserable his whole life. But he never stood up to her, ever. Do any men taking care of their adult mothers feel the same way? I can’t be the only one that feels this way? Any insight on how to get her out of this communication pattern?


If you need an example, think of Howard's Mother on the Big Bang Theory and Norma Bates from Bates Motel.

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PS, you cannot get HER out of this communication pattern. You have to get YOU out of this communicatiin pattern.

Stop responding when she acts this way. Leave. Hang up. Say "I can't participate in a conversation like this".

She probably will not be able to ammend her behavior, but at least your exposure to the craziness will be reduced.
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Some people behave this way for whatever reason - genetic predisposition, personality trait/disorder, family training.

It could well be part of narcistic tendencies? Kind of this is how they feel worthwhile, attractive, young, or interesting. Having men after them, flirting & being the 'bell of the ball'

Sarlett O'Hara.

I can't think of anything else but withdrawing contact to a safe level for you. Shut down anything inappropriate instantly. Call it out as if an older man was inappropriate to a younger woman. Physically leave if verbally saying no does not work.

Sounds like this is a family pattern that she was raised with.
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Would this be a Gray rock type of thing?
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Ok, so your mother is seriously mentally ill. Whether it's narcissism, dementia, borderline personality disorder, or a combination of all, it's safe to say she's mentally ill and you're the victim who's been her target for all of your 50-something years of life.

NOW is the time to say ENOUGH. NOW is the time to recognize that she is not going to change, but YOU can and SHOULD. Being a victim of emotional incest from a mentally ill mother is not okay, by any stretch of the imagination. Whether she agrees with your decision to release yourself from this enmeshed relationship or not, you must DO it anyway.

Bring her the things she needs. Have short conversations with her over the phone once in a while. The very moment she begins to speak in a romantic way towards you or to call you by your late father's name, that's when you END the conversation or leave her presence. You let her know you do NOT appreciate this kind of treatment from her and you will no longer tolerate it. She, of course, will gaslight you and say she's doing 'nothing wrong, whatever are YOU talking about?' But you will leave her on that note, with the seed planted inside of her sick head, each and every time she goes down that path.

Sooner or later, she WILL realize that every time she treats you inappropriately, you WILL leave or you WILL hang up the phone and so, she will back off from doing it, more than likely. And if she doesn't, why then YOU shall back off even more from HER.

Enough is enough. Just b/c she gave birth to you does not mean you owe her one more moment of your life or your time. She's living comfortably where she's at. If she falls and gets hurt, you will call 911 and have her transported to the ER for treatment. If she develops worse dementia than she already has, you will help her move from IL to AL or to Skilled Nursing or whatever. That is fulfilling your role as a son without being a surrogate husband to her, which is not your role or your job in life.

Wishing you the very best of luck stepping back from role you've been put into with your mother and saying No More.
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Jh, explaining to your mom isn't going to do anything. She only sees life through her lens. You will ALWAYS be in the wrong.

Limit your exposure. Say "I can't possibly do that" and mean it. Don't explain.
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If you watch this video. The type of relationship that this woman is describing is exactly what I am talking about. My mother keeps trying to put me in situations where I would be in a semi romantic relationship with her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei6-Ri31ObQ
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Look up Narcissistic Personality Disorder and see if it rings any bells with regards to your mother's behavior.

Have you considered seeing a therapist to help you learn how to set healthy boundaries, and how to say "no, I can't possibly do that" to your mom?

There is a wonderful book called "Boundaries" by Townsend and Hall. Read it. It's a good first step.
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Jhalldenton Mar 2021
I've known since I was a teenager that my mom is a narcissist. I worked with a therapist for 6 months and learned to set boundaries. I've had blunt discussions with her about this. Nothing has worked.
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Jhall - That's terrible how the women in your life treat their sons. My mother doesn't treat my brother that way, thankfully. I do feel bad for you. I think it happens more often than we know since men typically don't like to complain. I'm glad you bring it up to share with us.

I don't have any good answer for you. Hopefully, others do.
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Have you had a frank and honest conversation with her about how much this bothers you? If there’s no dementia she should be able to grasp what’s happening. Changing her behavior may be another thing. You may have to stop it in its tracks each time it occurs. In other words, can you teach her to do better? That’s a hard order in well established patterns, but doesn’t mean you should listen to something so bothersome to you
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