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I don't know if he's always been like this, but if he has you never should've married him in the first place. Going into a relationship with someone you know is toxic means that you failed to see the red flags from the start but now live and learn from experience. I think you're going to want to do your homework on the narcissistic trait as well as the severe bipolar and any other problems he's having because it sounds like you're in a big mess. Hopefully he's not on your bank account because narcs are notorious for taking financial advantage of their victims when they gain access to their bank accounts. I knew a narc who did just that to his live in girlfriend but I never knew anything was really going on until after he evicted from his girlfriend's apartment. I thought it was in both of their names not knowing it was just in hers. I found out through her and her family what was really going on after they moved in behind him moving out. What was revealed is he spent all of his Social Security check on tobacco then lived very large at his girlfriend's expense, she was also on Social Security. Had I known what was really going on I would've told Social Security to report the narc for fraud, because he was also taking financial advantage of others and some of them happened to also be on Social Security. When he sold stuff he justified his prices and when anyone bought anything from him, he went behind the customers' backs and bragged about ripping them off and I guess how he convince them to pay the price for the item. This particular narc since died as he was a chain smoker who happened to have had a heart attack just like your narc did and the narc I know you had stents installed after his heart attack. He planned to quit smoking but that never happened. He claimed his doctor took him off the nebulizer, but I later found out his girlfriend actually made him quit using it since he wouldn't quit smoking and the medication wouldn't help him anyway, smoking was only defeating the purpose of the nebulizer medication. He eventually moved in with a new supply who happened to be doing street drugs and I think he got a hold of some of those drugs because they died only days apart.

If your narc is on your bank account, you really need to call Social Security (if you're on it) and have your check moved to a new bank account. What I would do is go take a certain amount you need from your current account if he's on your account and go open a new bank account in the bank of your choice and tell that bank what's going on when you make the withdrawal. Banks are mandatory reporters and at your age they can definitely help you. Definitely get your money separated from his if he's on your bank account because I'll bet you a nickel he probably is. I've dealt with narcs before I know a little bit about them and how they are especially over a money. They hate your stuff and they are laughing at you and this man being narc never look really loved you since they're not really able to love. They hate your stuff and I know for a fact because I found out that all the stuff that was sold out of the house, most of it belonged to his victim, his live-in girlfriend. If you see things go missing, broken, etc. this is a clue knowing what you know now. You may also notice he may have also acted as someone he's really not such as a small child because these narcs are really childish and very greedy, self-centered and don't care about others or their needs. They don't really care about anyone but themselves and what they can get from others. What I would do in your particular case is if the home is in his name I would take what belongs to me and I would leave and find a new place ASAP. I wouldn't tell him about moving your check to a new account, let him find out the hard way when you're gone. Don't be surprised if after you're gone he tries to get you back, this is called hoovering when they try to convince you to give them another chance and that they're "sorry". They're not really "sorry", just "sorry" they were caught. The best thing to do in this particular case is go "no contact". Don't let him know where you are, stay under the radar and stay low-key. Change your number if he has it or just block his or maybe do both. If you guys are on Facebook together, unfriend him and even block him. I hope you didn't let him know any of your login info such as user names and passwords since they can do stuff within your online accounts. Change all of your passwords and if possible, your username and any profile pics. On moving day, I get a support network around you to help you since you really don't want to do this alone. There's power in numbers and you want the narc outnumbered by your support network. If you have any assets, you want to secure them and get an eldercare lawyer to help you because it sounds like you're probably going to want to divorce him. 

* One clue you mentioned is how he now physically abuses you and another clue is how he isolates you since he wants no relationship with his children, just you. Huge red flags there!

Where I would start is either speak to an eldercare lawyer, the APS or both because you definitely need help to protect yourself and see to your safety. If you're a victim, action should be expedited if the victim comes forward and speaks to the APS or an eldercare lawyer and even the cops. You really need to make a police report that this man has been abusing you for quite some time and you really need to be immediately taken to a safe place
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Get out while you can. A lot of his behavior sounds like he is getting dementia. Once he is diagnosed you won't be able to get a divorce. I am stuck in that situation myself, like you I kept staying because he had surgeries, then diagnosed with Parkinson's and now he has dementia. 
He is only going to get worse and you are going to end up with issues yourself because you will resent him even more making your life miserable.
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Don't tell him or his sons what you are doing! Figure out how to get out of there while keeping as much as possible for yourself, whether it's by moving out and staying married or by getting divorced and taking your half before medicaid or whoever gets it. Would he have stuck around for you if the situation were reversed? Nope, he'd have been gone, and probably to another woman, at the first sign of trouble from you. Run!
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Just pack your bags and leave. Leave somewhere, anywhere.....atleast, you'll have your dignity. But, I suspect you might not leave your husband, until he leaves you. Your husband knows that too. That's part of the reason, he mistreats you and gets away with it. So, stop wallowing in self-pity and fear and make the best of the rest of your life. Immerse yourself in activities that you love. Acquaint yourself with new people. Spend more time outside the house. Your spouse will be mad. Just ignore him and go on about what makes you happy.
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I stopped posting because I felt embarrassed at what I wrote. I felt ashamed. But, I have to tell you, I haven't been treated this kind by anyone in 20 years. You have made me laugh and you have made me cry, and your love and support for me has truly touched me deeply.

My reasons I believe for not leaving is this in a nut shell. I WANT THE HOUSE !!

I don't make enough money per month to live on my own, and trying to get assistance, housing, anything, you need to now be placed on a "waiting list", which I understand is a 2 year waiting list all around the country.

However, I do have enough money saved up to rent a small apartment for two years, and that will take care of the 2 year waiting period, and deplete my savings. However, I WANT THE HOUSE !! If I leave, the house may be destroyed and not worth as much if his kids get their hands on it.

The second reason I don't leave is because of our dog Munchie. She is a rescued animal and she is 10 years old. I love her dearly. But I don't know if I would have enough money to take care of her vet bills until. If I had the house and sold the house I would have enough proceeds form the sale of the house to live decently the rest of my life and take care of her as well.

The third reason I'm holding off is to see what the doctors say today about his heart, and then in December about his cancer. I really believe that in 2018 I will make my decision.

Everything that I have read about people who start going down hill have a 5 year survival rate. Meaning my husband began his first heart attack in 2014, then in 2015 he was diagnosed with cancer. Then in 2016 he had an Aortic Abdominal Aneurysm and in 2017 his PSA is climbing meaning his cancer is spreading. In 2018 it will be 5 years. And he is getting weaker and weaker.

As a human being and someone who believes in God I have compassion for him as he is not well. I am having a hard time dealing with leaving a dying man due to my faith. However, I know that God doesn't want me to live this way either.

And it is because of my faith and the appreciation for human life, that I sought out a Counselor because it goes against my principles and faith to wish for anyone to die, let alone my husband. To me wishing for someone to die is the same as you doing the deed. I'm having a hard time living with that emotion.

So there you have it my sweet caring loving new friend on here. I love your support, your humor (Chief Wimp: going to buy a tag right now) and your sharing your own stories and experience with me.

For you not condemning me for speaking out how I feel and you understood, knowing that I am in conflict with my emotions. What truly is the right thing to do? Morally !

I will keep you posted. Please know that when you answer, you are making a difference in someone's life. Every word, every emotion and thought you write down on this forum is taken in. I may not be able to be strong enough to do what I know I need to do, at this moment. But just knowing that all of you (as well as my family) believe the right thing to do is to GET OUT (and I do too) it's just hard to do it !!! Why? It is just hard to do it !!!! Even though he is awful.

I'll keep you posted.
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First off...people will hire you. Secondly...what does your counselor say? Or a minister? I think you have answered your question in regards to leaving. You would have already, you said. Please continue to post to us. You have all my thots this eve. Love and hugs x
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Well his visit to the Cardiovascular Surgeon yesterday gave him a good bill of health. And I really truly feel glad for my husband. His December appointment is in regards to his Prostate Cancer and every report I've read says that men very rarely die of Prostate Cancer, even with Stage IV M1a.

And all report say that a person can live with an Ejection Fraction of even 20% for a very long time.

So...a big SO.....I need to do something.

Now I realize that God must feel that I can't move yet. There is something that needs to be done first. Perhaps save more money? Become more compassionate and understanding? He knows the future and not Me.

However, the thought of renting an apartment for two years or three at the most, (I absolutely will not have any more money left after 2 1/2 years, so I would desperately need to qualify for assistance somewhere at that point or else I'm going to be a little old lady sleeping in her van) sounds more appealing to me everyday now. 

I also have been viewing a lot of YouTube videos about people, like myself (senior citizens with very small social security payments of $1,000 or less)  who live in their cars or vans.

I've looked at these RV Vans and they are quite nice. However, I would become a "Nomad", which is okay. And there are a lot of FREE CAMPSITES, but I would need to move to a warmer climate of course. Just a thought if things got worse and I had no where to live, I believe I could do that. 

But the apartment in the city that I'd like to move to, about an hour away from where I live now, I think would be perfect. And I think I would be able to get into the senior apartments  within a couple of years. (Especially since they would know I would be running out of funds by that time.  They'd probably make an effort to move me at the top of the list). Plus, if I rent the apartment at normal rent of $456.00 a month now, there would be no waiting time.  I could go right now. 

Nine years ago, my husband and I were quite well off financially. We owned lots of property. In 2006 when the housing market crashed I tried to tell my husband to sell. But he wouldn't do it. Our CPA tried to tell him to sell, but he wouldn't do it. Our hard money lender told him to sell, but he wouldn't do it, and so we went broke. We lost EVERYTHING. I told my husband that when this day came, he would accuse me of bankrupting him, and I was right. In 2009 he accused me of just that.

Thank goodness we were able to pay cash for a Foreclosure home that we live in now. So we got it pretty cheap. And I paid off all our bills and now we only live off of our Social Security Checks and his pension, which doesn't add up to much.

My husband refused to take out life insurance on us, and because he wouldn't sign or even talk about a policy, I knew I was doomed and worried for many years how I would live once he passed away.   But the money I saved during those years, did end up paying cash for the house we live in now, so I was happy I began saving money at that time.  

When tenants left, some of them left behind their animals, and so we rescued them. We took them in. But when I knew that we were losing everything I told my husband we could not rescue any more animals because we just couldn't afford to take of them, especially since we are old now. We would have to out live these animals. But he wouldn't listen and so now we have one dog, named Munchie and one cat named Lulu left.   But they are old now and they may not be with us in a few years, but still, since I won't money if I leave my husband now, I wouldn't be able to take the animals with me.   

So my husband blames everybody but himself for being broke and for us not having money to spend like we did when we had money.  It's always everyone else fault for everything in his life. 

I have never been one to buy furs or diamonds. I don't even wear jewelry, so being broke doesn't bother me at bit. I am truly a simple country gal and always have been.  So I don't mind not having money.  The only problem I have now about not having much money, is that it's tough to life on just a few bucks a month.  Emergencies, all those unexpected repairs etc. 

So, for me to live in a small 422 sq ft senior apartment won't bother me at all.  As a matter of fact, my entire life with my husband was me living in a smaller section of our house, which entailed 3 bedrooms and a bathroom, nothing more.  I made one bedroom, my bedroom, and one bedroom my office, and one bedroom my arts and craft room.  That's it.  My bedroom was also my living room.  He had the big portion of the house.  The big living room, the kitchen, bedrooms, dining room, etc.  But I was willing to live in the smaller portion of the house in order to keep my distance from him.  And, too, I like small places.  That's why I could live in a van.  I don't nee much at all, really to make me happy.  Just peace and little bit of love and a private space where I can be alone to think.  (My husband is a talker.  Non stop.  And of course, it is always about himself and how wonderful he is and how everyone else is so stupid)

But, now, that I know my husband is well enough really to take care of himself, (yes he's sick, but he legally can take care of himself, (heck I'm going to have to do that in the future, myself. I have no one to take care of me even now) so he will do okay. And, this makes me seriously want to apply for the apartment complex today,  at a regular rental rate,  and hope that I can get some assistance for my rent etc, within the two year waiting period.  I'd be close enough to take care of Munchie (keep an eye on her) and still have my Freedom.

I wish it was just a simple case of my spouse being sick and I'm having to take care of him and having it just be the normal caregiver issues that I have to deal with (which are bad enough when you love someone)  How I wish it hadn't got to the point that my feeling for him has turned into such hatred, and a desperate need to get away. It shouldn't be this way as people grow old together.  But because we never had a husband and wife relationship, that bond that we should have together, right now, doesn't exist.  He never wanted that.  So I can I really say I love this man until death do us part and be kind to him and caring for him emotionally, when he denied me any type of love or affection, or kindness? The truth of the matter is all I can say now, is I  loved you until I got to know you.  

So that's it for today.

Thanks again for your support.
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You're not materialistic or bothered about money for its own sake, I get that. But your husband essentially destroyed your sense of security, and that's a different thing.

You want the house. You want the animals to live out their lives well cared-for. You want not to be bound to a person you no longer feel any warmth towards (it's the being bound to someone you don't want to be with, I suspect, rather than the man himself that you hate).

So... whose house actually is it, anyway?
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Both our house. When I told my husband that I wanted a divorce in 2014, he said he would do anything to change...ANYTHING. Well, you know that never happens. I told him, that he could be an absolute angel now, and I still would want a divorce, because I can't forget all the stuff you did to me over the years. How you treated me. Even though in order to survive each day, I forgave him, I can never forget.

Do I really hate him? When he just sits there and doesn't say anything, I look at him and I think, what a handsome man you are, even at 83 years old. What a real "he man" you are, even at 83 years old. I look at him and see an intelligent man. Who is a firm believer in hard work, who has been loyal to me and who I feel comfortable with because I've been with him all these years. Then....he talks. The things that come out of this man's mouth would blow your mind.

Dealing with someone who has EXTREME PARANOIA, means you need to always be prepared for the shocking things that they will do or say. Him thinking doctors killed his wife, thinking I've been kidnapped by black people if I am gone too long. That if you can't read something in the newspaper it is because they want you to buy glasses because they are in connection with the eye doctors. That the doctors are trying to kill him. That Jews deserved to get what they got. Every ethnic group as a slang name, and these are just a few things.  Can you image living with someone like this day in and day out for 20 years?

And then, there is the EXTREME BI-POLAR. Depression and then the highs and the lows.

And then..THE NARCISSISM. All day long he talks about HIMSELF. Every photo he has in his bedroom/office is of HIMSELF.  (He has none of me)  He is like Gaston in the Movie Beauty and The Beast who looks in the mirror and sings about how wonderful and handsome he is. LOL.

I could move and sue him for the half the house. I told him that. Or he can just let me go without any drama, I told him. It's hard to leave because of the drama. The begging and the pleading.

I know I'm at the end of the road now where I need to either do it now or stop complaining. Munchie is a hold back for me. Not having as much money in my savings is a hold back for me. I have to be logical. I have a lot of people lives and animals lives at stake here.

I'm about up to 80% of leaving now. Preparing a plan. But because I am Co-Dependent (with lots of dysfunctions myself)  who knows whether it's all talk and no action.

Deeply thinking about everything though.
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Yikes.

Could you have a quiet word with the cardiovascular consultant and see if he can't organise a psych evaluation - explaining to DH that it's a natural continuation of the heart investigations, which it arguably is.

The thing is. One can say to oneself, oh that's just how that person is. But on the other hand if that person has access to weaponry and routinely mouths off about what sound like violent fantasies but then something godawful happens, you can't very well later on say you never saw it coming.

So if only from an abundance of caution, and good public spiritedness, it would be worth finding out what his baseline functioning is and what the treatment options, if any, are. And if it should turn out that they also get him out of the house and into a facility, it won't be your fault, will it?
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CountryMouse: Part of my therapy was telling her all about my husband. I even brought a picture of him so she could see what he looks like. She liked that. It gave her a visual along with my stories.

She asked if I thought he was capable of harming all these people. I said no, but he doesn't mind if someone else does it. He admires Hitler. YEP!!! So is he capable of hiring someone? No. However, one never knows when someone goes completely crazy. (I often wondered if Hitlers wife agreed with him on things because she was his wife. And if not, how she handled it all. I don't agree with anything my husband believes in, in regards to race or cultures. He's way over the top and nutzy coocoo. I told my counselor that too.

I have stopped going to counseling a few months ago because she keeps trying to get me to leave him and then she says no stay because you don't have money to leave.
Plus they may think you are abandoning him and you may get in trouble. And then she says get a job, but the doctors tell me, No you can't get a job and leave him alone. So it's been making me more crazy, so I just stopped going.

I did contact a lawyer, and he said I could leave, but I better make sure I get a divorce, because I will be responsible for the house and everything as long as I'm married to him.

Sometimes too much advice can make a situation worse because everybody has their own opinion. But, it's the support that matters, and it is up to me to weigh the opinions and see what works for me. And is why I appreciate each and everyone of you.
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I wonder what will happen to your marital finances if your husband goes to live in care and if the required spend down leaves you with nothing. He could linger 10 or 15 years--yipes.

You might consider buying a little piece of land. You could plop a good size garden shed on it to live in instead of renting for the rest of your life. There 's a guy on you tube (Solar Living, I think) who shows how to do that and live almost free. I don't need much space either and plan to do that.

You sound kind and intelligent--it's heartwarming that you care so much about your pets. I can see why he latched onto you. I'm not religious but I pray you don't sacrifice your remaining years to him.
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I was approved for a Senior Citizen Apartment and I go tomorrow to fill out some more paperwork. They said it takes about 6 months for a vacancy, sometimes sooner.

Another step, but I don't feel happy or good inside in one respect, because I'm hurting someone by me leaving them.

My next step will be to try and convince my husband that Munchie needs to go with me.

It will be very hard to actually move my stuff out with him there in the house when the time comes, but I know I will gain strength once I have actually signed a Lease Agreement for the apartment. Then I know I have to do it.

When I sign the Lease Agreement it will be at that time that I will contact his sons and notify them of what is going on.  

I have a binder already ready for his sons to look at with all of my husbands medical information, things they need to know, what bills will need to be paid, etc.  It includes all important documents that he will need for the house, etc.  

He could also move to a Senior Citizen Apartment like I'm doing.  I told him that, but he doesn't want to.  It would be perfect for him (not with me or in my building) but there are several around like the one I will be moving too.  But, he won't help himself, and so I have to remember this when I begin to feel sorry for him. 

Heck, he has his sons, three big grown men, to help take care of him, whereas, if he passed away before me, I'd be totally alone.  Nobody to take care of me as my son lives in Florida and my sister is disabled and lives 300 miles away from me.  

As we grow older, we have to face the fact that we will need to take care of ourselves until we no longer can..meaning Nursing Home.  

That's my update
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Nancy,

Wow--good plan! Six months will fly by and gives you time to quietly organize a quick, smooth move. Would it help to gradually move some things to a storage unit or do the actual move when he's gone or sleeping? Think how much better your life is about to become!

Play your cards close to your chest and don't talk with him about what you're doing, otherwise he'll work on you and talk you out of leaving. These people pick us because we are softies--please don't let him stop you. And pleeeease don't let him keep Munchie.
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Davina, thanks for your encouragement and excitement for me. I think he suspects, but I'm just taking one day at a time. I don't plan to tell him until I actually accept the apartment and sign the lease.

I am downsizing now. Planning what stuff to take with me. I don't have much, because I lived upstairs in these small bedrooms for so many years. So all I have is my bedroom outfit and my clothes and my Piano, which is in the living room.

I've been looking online at the type of furniture I plan to buy. It will be the first time I had a choice in the matter. I feel like a little kid.

I look at the photo's of the apartment and say to myself, well I think I'll put my Piano over there, and put my new sofa over here, and then I giggle. I'm so excited about shopping for stuff for me without someone telling me no, and then buying what he wants. Honest to Pete, I truly feel like a little kid in a candy store.

I've got it really well planned out now. Meeting with people about his ability to stay by himself, if not, then what are my options. And I may not be able to take Munchie at the moment I leave, but I do plan to go back and get her, some way !!!! She's such a sweet pea. She is part Poodle and Dachshund and loves me dearly. She will be looking outside the window laying on the back of the sofa and when I sit down, she all of sudden she turns around and starts kissing me. What a charmer she is.

So, everyone, I'm just letting life take me where it's supposed to take me.

All of you, plus my son and sister, have given me the courage to actually take action. Because when people like me, who are co-dependent, and are by themselves, they think that it's really us that's the problem. We tend to think, well, it's really not as bad as I'm making it out to be. Oh, he's really not that bad, or I'm taking everything out of context. Even making excuses for him, saying, well he doesn't really mean it, it's just how he was raised. I mean the excuses go on. And then when you confront them and see them sad or angry, then we feel guilty and sad and think once again to ourselves, why am I so mean. When really we aren't the mean ones, are we!!!

So, one step at a time, and God will take me where I'm supposed to be.

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Today is Tuesday and I will be meeting with the Property Manager of the Senior Apartment I've applied for. I'm very nervous in a way, because I know that I will be leaving my husband for sure, due to an article I read this morning regarding "When is it time to put a loved one in a Nursing Home". Wow, it was me all over the place.

Some reasons are:
*Aggression of the patient: And he has begun to be more aggressive with me lately, to the point that I am somewhat frightened. I'm a little nerved up about all this lately.

CAREGIVER SIGNS
*Increased Stress
*Their Health is at risk
*Avoidance behaviors (Yep I've been trying to avoid him for a very long time)
*Disabling anxiety (yep sought counseling and was on meds for depression)
*Hyper-vigilance
*Intrusive thoughts and more. Yep that's me all over the place.

They liken all this to someone as having PTS disorder due to the psychological costs of being a caregiver and of making difficult decisions.

The article says that if you are feeling isolated and alone, or if you begin to feel resentful of your loved one, it might be time to examine the source of those feelings.

*Anger
*Resentment
*Sleep deprivation
*Guilt

So, I've separated everything that I'm taking with me in a way that it's ready to go on a moments notice into a moving truck, yet not so noticeable as to my husband seeing boxes laying all around indicating that I will be moving. (I have everything packed in my dresser drawers) LOL So, all I need to take with me is my bedroom outfit, my piano, and my clothes, and that's it. Oops don't want to forget my cat Lulu and dog Munchie.

I think while I'm waiting for the apartment to come available for me, and I hope this works out this way, that I will be able to place him in a Nursing Home. (I do have POA) And a Medical POA as well.

If he does go into a Nursing Home then I can sell the house and I will be able to have enough money to take care of the animals and have some extra money to live on. Vet bills, and pet food, etc.

If the doctors don't feel that he's not ready for a Nursing Home, then I will tell the kids that I'm leaving and that they can have the house when their dad passes away if they take care of their dad, because he can't drive and I won't be leaving him the car.

Okay, another decision made.
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Hi Nancy,

Good going!

Can you get free or low cost legal advice about protecting yourself in this complicated situation? I'm worried that you'll be too "nice" and not get your fair share.
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PS Attorneys will give you nutshell advice over the phone before meeting with you--you could screen three or four at no cost.
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Davina, you'll be reassured to know that the Medicaid spenddown is very different when someone is married than for a single person. The spouse is never left with nothing.
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jeannegibbs,
I know nothing about any of this financially or legally. Nancy mentioned turning the house over to his kids if he goes into care and before she does anything like that it seems wise to get the advice of a knowledgeable attorney and also maybe a C.P.A. so that she doesn't give herself the short end of the stick.
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My husband has been very good since I have applied for a senior apartment. He is watching his P's and Q's. And life is tolerable.

But at night, when it's time to go to bed, is when I worry about what should I do? What is the right thing to do?

Can someone leave a dying man and live with themselves? And, is it legal? (Here I go again)

(Actually, it must be okay because some of the many articles I've read are of older people leaving their spouses who are ill. Heck, my dad left my mother when she was in the hospital and left her with my sister and they were in their middle and late 70's).

This is an article I just read, that was written by someone who is in my same shoes.

“Continue to move forward. If you do not take care of you, who will? I am sure that your husband is not happy or supportive of your changes. But, do you really expect him to be? As long as you were taking care of him and neglecting yourself, he was happy. Now the tables have turned.

His choice to not take care of his health may easily be his efforts to keep you there and maintain control. His health is “his” health.

You should not allow yourself to feel responsible or guilty about it. It is his choice to take care of (or fail to take care of) his health.

If you stay with him because of his illness, you will always be “stuck" with him. He will control you through his illnesses. If he thinks you are leaving or becoming too independent, he will have a medical crisis to keep you in check.

You have summed up your feelings about the marriage in a nutshell: You do not want to be married. That is a clear and honest statement. There is absolutely nothing wrong with not wanting to be married. Your husband has given you multiple grounds for wanting a divorce.

These decisions must be made based on what is in your best interest. You are smart. Act smart! Make the decision that is going to keep you moving forward.”

END QUOTE

Each day, because I live upstairs, I have to go up and down the stairs, like 30 times a day, at least.

In our old place, I had to walk up two sets of stair because I lived in the upper level, and went up and down the stairs like 30 times a day. So, for almost 20 years, I've gone up and done stairs to the point that my knees can no longer tolerate going up and down stairs. I just can't do it anymore. I need either a ranch style home or elevators. The Senior complex has ELEVATORS. My knees are killing me and have been for a long time.

So...I'm back to my plan of moving when an opening comes available.

Leaving Munchie behind will be hard, but in order for me to protect her and my interest in the house, I will have to be his caregiver, from a distance.

I would do everything that I'm doing now for him, except I would be doing it like any other caregiver. Instead of me being with him 24/7, I would visit him on Wednesdays, to take him shopping and to fill up his pill box, and Saturdays to take him shopping and to spend the day with him, doing whatever he wants to do. Then I would go home.

I would take him to the doctors, make his appointments, and take care of all the bills, just like I'm doing now because I have an interest in the home. (I would have full control of the money) This way I will be protecting my interest in the property, I would be protecting Munchie, I would be free, and because I would have a break from him, it would allow me to be more patient with his horrible jokes, and the things that he says. The PARANOIA !!!!

So, I truly believe this is the plan. I can't keep giving up my life for him. I believe that I’m still being a good Christian, taking care of her sick husband, but also taking care of me too, which is important.

It will be tough to move with him begging me to stay full time, but I can handle that. I believe it's a good compromise.

When the time comes that he can no longer be taken care of at home, via a caregiver, me, then I will sell the house and put him in a Nursing Home. (By rights, the government can't take my share of the house to pay for his Nursing Home. So, most likely they will take his Social Security Check, his Pension Check and his half of the proceeds of the house to pay for his care and I'm okay with that.) I don't need much. I just need to be free.
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I wasn't married to the man...but I was his full time caregiver. If I had been told up front he was bi-polar I would never have been even that.

The abuse reached a point...I just got in my car and drove away. YEs, he was ill and needed full time help. Yes, I felt guilt over it.
Then I remembered the many times he was abusive to me, and I didn't care anymore.

I warn all my friends....if you encounter a bi-polar person..run the other way!
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I deleted it.  I changed my mind
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Your question is two months old now, but it was on Aging Care's current question feed. First question I have, is how long have you been married to this man? Second question is does he have children? Someone I know booted her old man husband 19 years her senior literally out on the road when he had dementia. Whether legal or not, I don't know, but everyone hates her now. Town people adopted him and took care of him, put him in a VA nursing home, she divorced him, and yes she got half his money. Will men ever learn?
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1. You need to make a plan to leave.
2. Contact Adult Protective Services immediately and tell them exactly this story. Keep their 24/7 number on you at all times.
3. Find a nursing home and tell his sons you are leaving. Tell them his care is now up to them.
Your life is worth as much as his and theirs and this will very possibly kill you and has already shortened it. You deserve to find happiness in THIS life and not wait for something in another-if that is part of your belief system. I do not believe that everything happens for a reason. Some pretty awful things just happen and we have to respond in the best way we can, given our own abilities and health issues. If you continue to stay because you are afraid to leave or there are financial considerations, get some counseling through a local resource center. Call the Alzheimer's Association, even though you say he does not have dementia, I would bet my life that he does. They will help you get help local to your area. Taking the first step is very hard and very emotional, but it will open the doors for you. Lastly-DO NOT STAY!
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I empathize with you. For me its Mom but the bipolarism, the nasty disposition is really difficult at times when I may be having a bad day and she eggs me on. What I did was buy a Trend security cam from Walmart set up in her bedroom. I can watch her in real time from my cell phone while I am out doing errands. Next, I bought a transport wheelchair (all 4 wheels are small) it's narrow and much easier to get around the house is an older home with narrow corridors. I read where loss of hearing can cause paranoia so I had her hearing tested. 90% hearing loss yet she always claimed to be able to hear me... Hearing aide and she CAN hear and is no longer paranoid. The efforts to get her around, now with the camera, I go out to eat with friends, watch her from my cell and bring her home a to go. As a caregiver, you have to maintain Your sanity or you are no good for the patient. Good Luck.
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"I deleted it. I changed my mind"

Nancy, I've just read your thread today and I read through all the pages cause I wanted to know you were finally free in your new apartment. Does the above quote mean you deleted the contract?

I just wanted to say one thing, whatever you have decided: you seem to have much more courage and awareness than you perhaps realise.

Among all the great analysis you made of your situation, with a huge honesty and strength, this is what sticked with me, something you wrote in the first page:

“I don't dare tell him anything because he could do something bad to me. So I will. “

I do recognise the rebellious strike, cause I have it myself.
This is exactly what saved me from very similar situations in the past.
This is the strength that will protect you, and guide you, and make you sit by your sense of guilt and watch it without turning your sight off until you’ll have your life back in your hands and your freedom and your soul will rejoice.

Your plan of taking care of your husband a few times a week living in another house was a great idea: taking care of someone as a choice, out of deliberate compassion and not out of guilt and fear. As someone said, we are not human beings having spiritual experiences, we are spiritual beings having a human experience; on a spiritual level, the reason behind our actions counts more than the actions themselves.

Sending you all my encouragement, whatever you’ll decide.
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I deleted my post because what is the point? All of you are right. Am I mental myself because I can't leave my dog behind? My husband has stopped taking all his medications now without his doctors permission. He wants to see a Chiropractor instead. His doctors are angry at him, but my husband doesn't care because he doesn't plan to see them anymore.

There is one doctor he respects and that's his Urologist. My husbands PSA keeps rising. It was 4.4 in September and this month it jumped to 9.4. Therefore, his current hormone treatment isn't working and they want him to go on some trial drugs as a volunteer. (We have an appointment to see his Urologist tomorrow).

I am so emotionally and mentally and physically drained. I feel guilty for my thoughts. I wake up shaking now. Lots of tremors. My ulcers are killing me. I don't sleep. And I have to say that I hate my life.

The apartment hasn't come available yet. I'm 10 on the list now instead of 12. But then, my dog.

I'm only allowed two animals. I have a cat and a dog. I can't give either up. They are both old.

It's like I'm playing a waiting game. I would love to keep the house. I figure if my husband is going to die soon, then it's worth staying. But if he's got several years left, I have to go. But then my dog.

Isn't it horrible of me to be hanging on a thread wondering if someone I've been with for almost 20 years to die, so I can have a life? That's pretty sick.

The other day I was talking to him and I guess I must have been scratching my stomach while speaking to him because he started acting like a monkey and scratching his stomach. I just turned and walked away.

He's always making fun of me and how fat my butt is. Everyday I wonder what else he's going to find that I'm doing that he can make fun of.

I'm so lost. I know what I should do, but back to square one, my beautiful sweet little doggie. All I can picture is him and his three children that are just like him, hurting her, and her being tortured or killed by a car. I have awful thoughts.

How I wish all of you could leave for me. Transport yourselves in my body for just a moment and leave for me, because I can't seem to do it by myself. I have too much love for my dog.

I'm pretty nuts, aren't I. I'm giving up my life for my dog. But if I did leave my dog behind, I couldn't live with myself. I'd be so depressed and worried what kind of a life would I have then. No better than what I have now.

So this is me. Crazy. Lost. A person who has no life. He's always been the center of attention with everyone, while I am just nobody in the room.
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Nancy - it is not that you love your dog or anyone or thing else too much, it is that you do not love yourself enough. You had a good plan. Try to figure out why you tossed it.
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You are not crazy. I would have the very same thoughts myself, and would never ever be able to leave my cat behind. It's part of who you are and honoring our feelings, crazy as they could sound to others, it's part of the freedom, you know ?

So, the dog must come with you, simple as that :)
It's just a matter of finding a way.

Some ideas:
* since you are so emotionally stressed - as anybody would be in your position - perhaps you can register your dog as an Emotional Support dog or Service dog?
* find a place where you are allowed to take all 3 animals with you. Even if it means waiting a bit longer, the thought that you WILL have your freedom with all your animals with you will make you strong enough to resist some longer, without the need of thinking about your husband's death (which btw, it's a very human thought to have).

All your feelings are right. Don't torture yourself questioning them, focus your energy in creating a plan which won't make you feel torn. You can have your life, with all your animals, and your husband will have some care from you too. It is possible, and you'll make it happen :)

We are rooting for you and the animals here.
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