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Um, an alcoholic is not a sinner. Wherever did you get that idea, Llamalover?

I'm thinking there should be a special forum on this board for the very religious Christians. I'm agnostic myself, and am offended that it's just assumed we all believe in the same god (or not) on these boards.
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Xina, your thread has taken off in a direction of it's own. I suggest you delete it from your "following" list, that's what I do when comments start to go off in a direction I'd rather not keep up with.
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Cwillie, I hear you, and I'm not trying to incite a riot, but I think there should be some rule that people do not assume we all share the same beliefs.
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