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I finally called APS in Illinois on my parents last night (well, second time). This time i stressed the severity of the emotional abuse, lack of timely medicination, self neglect on part of my mom/caregiver who clearly has dementia. The person who took my report said I will get a call back in 3-7 for another interview. At that point, two agents may go out and interview my parents separately. She assured me no one will remove them ASAP but I'm suddenly worried about the vicious backlash I will get from my mom. Then again, she is vicious daily...do i stick with it? My sister had to drag her to urgent care today for a severe cough and confusion. And we suddenly realized - when not if - she dies first well be forced to find ft care (they have night care that we still fight about) for my stage 5 parkinsons dad. Although today was a dry run and I was ready. But she told my sister she will not get ft care for my dad or her until he can't walk anymore. But - we're basically already there. He can only walk occasionally with a walker, falls a lot and she lifts him (despite being 83). So...I just incur her wrath more, right? Also very ready to go no contact

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You did what you had to do for the safety of both mom and dad.
Sometimes those decisions are not easy.
Often times is takes a catastrophic event to force a change. Thankfully in your case it is not an injury or death of either of your parents.
I often say that placing a loved one in a facility is not an easy decision, often one of the most difficult we make, but in most cases it is done because they need care that is beyond what most people can do at home.
Playing the devils advocate here for just a brief moment. (And in your case this may not be what is happening) But sometimes caregivers get to the point where they reach a breaking point. This is when anger, verbal abuse, physical abuse, emotional abuse rears it's ugly head. This is by no means making excuses but it can easily happen.
Primary caregivers particularly spouses, adult children often have a mindset that "no one can care for ___________like I can"
or
"I promised __________that I would never put ___________ in a "nursing home"
One of the ways mom will get hurt is picking dad up when he falls. Or he will get hurt in the process.

Yes you will incur her wrath.
But you are making decisions in their best interest that is what matters.
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Thank you all so much. I read these a lot. I do feel really good, and free, especially because the state went today. I don't know what happened though - in Illinois, they don't call the reporter back. The caseworker sounded lovely when I talked to her before she went. She didn't seem terribly hopeful though - more like, "Well I can try to build a repoire and leave her with a lot of referrals." The head wound got her attention. My mom did call me but I set it up to go straight to VM. She said, "I got a visit from some department of aging and I'm assuming it was you who called. Call me back." But I'm not calling back. What would the point be? I guess that's it? I do feel remarkably better though. I tried. I know the caseworker said she'd talk to my dad alone too - if she was let inside. I guess I don't know that happened. Oh well.
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AlvaDeer Dec 31, 2024
Yeah. Me? I am lying to her. I will say "Oh, really. How nice of them? Did they help you at all? I hope they left a number for you? So nice to hear. Gee, I wonder if your Doc spoke with them. WHO were they again? Really sweet of them to show up".

And you know, so what if she finds out definitely that it WAS YOU? If she says "I have proof right here you sent them!" Just tell her "Yeah. I lied. I sent them. Sue me".

You did the right thing.
You need to let it go now. We all live and we all die and we get to choose how we do it. Sometimes. If we are lucky.

Make goals for YOURSELF in the New Year, Peanut. Things that have NOTHING to do with them. Make your own goals. You know what? Make art. Bracelets, earrings, paintings, paint-by-numbers, collage. ANYTHING. I swear, it so frees the mind, it so eases you out of the mess and into the beauty. Take up sketching. When I did sketching I saw the beauty in a hand, a face, a nose, like I never did before.

Happy New Year, P.
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You had to report it, and now that you have, see it through! You can do this!

You're doing the right thing. Don't let your mean, sick, vicious mother call the shots. They no longer know what's right for them, but you do.

Go no contact or almost no contact for a while. No need to give mom a chance to abuse you. She is not the queen of the universe, and she has almost no power now, which is as it should be.

Good luck! You'll feel better when you can look back and congratulate yourself for getting them the care they need.
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This is you looking out for dad, good on you for caring. Don’t listen to mom, you know it’s the meanness and dementia talking. No one deserves listening to vicious, berating talk, it’s soul crushing, so just don’t. It’s not disrespectful to guard your own well being. Wishing you peace in the storm
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My mother was The Queen of Mean and did not have dementia. I did not listen to her when it came to what needed to be done when it came to when it was time for them to go into LTC. They were 94 and living alone. I have not lost lost any sleep over the decisions we made to get them
in Medicaid and into LTC. .

They can no longer live alone. Let APS do their job. Your mother can no longer take care of your dad. And your dad needs a lot more assistance now.

All I can say is it really sucks to go through what you are right now. I feel for you.
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Yes, you may incur her wrath. You may be forbidden to see your father.
As you are now in the midst of this second contact with APS nothing will change.
That other sister took her to ER for confusion is something you need to let the APS team know.
I do feel that you are VERY CLOSE to having your father removed from the home and put into care. The fact is that with two calls from you they CANNOT ignore her non-cooperation. That may actually be for the best.

Hope you'll update us. Thoughts out to you. This is very difficult to call, as it is a dangerous situation for them both and you and sis know it.
So sorry.
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You're fighting with your mom's disease. It's hard to beat dementia. Mom needs to get her medical issues sorted out and dad needs better care. APS is a good first step. Your decision making is sound. Don't take what she says to heart, though it's hard not to--she isn't in her right mind, and unfortunately may not return to it, so you have to do the best you can.
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So, mom gets mad. So?

Your dad deserves a chance for better care. If he agrees, this is his chance. If he refuses to go against Mom's wishes, that's on him.

You have very little agency here. You can only step back and allow them to fail and get taken into care.
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You’ve got this !! Stick to it . Don’t back pedal.
Let APS do their job . If they don’t eventually remove them soon , then try calling their County Area Agency of Aging .

Your parents can not live at home any longer .

Edited …..No contact may be necessary , or at least limit contact and build an imaginary wall to deflect what they verbally throw at you ., You can drop off food and leave immediately .
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