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What we did with my parents and my in-laws was long before we had them take out a living trust. That's the first step to also protecting their assets. Their home and their automobile cannot be taken away or considered when totaling assets. By having all of their assets in trust the government can't tap into their bank accounts etc. since it is in the trust. When the time comes and you have to place your friend, parents, or in-laws once Medicare has been depleted for custodial care then they will usually qualify for Medicaid. If they're already in a facility quite often they will file for Medicaid or let you know what you need to do to keep them in the facility if they accept Medicaid.
We did all of these years ago and have done it for ourselves. Check and see what the current laws are now, federally and in your state.
Is your friends legal papers all done? If so, who is the POA ? If not that’s first.. durable POA , medical POA , will, living will … all can be downloaded on computer , filled out , signed with notary republic..
the way someone is taken care of when out of funds is thru Medicaid. The person needs to also qualify medically. Call your county office of aged and disabilities… they can give you information and support over the process. When I started down this road, that’s where I went. My mom passed two days before our appointment for the specialist to input the information into the system. She would have filled out the application along with all the necessary documentation from the last five years (Wisconsin) .. when it was financially time , she sends the application.
if your looking for placement, google : care advisors, find someone local to work with. These people are invaluable! I have used someone 3 times. They know what’s available, needs, cost, etc… they are not paid by you , paid by the facility. I used a franchise called care patrol twice .. Google them , they may have one in your area.. otherwise find someone local. I cannot stress the value of care advisors.
If this is for your friend who is not family, you as her POA can do it but will not be easy. If you do not already have yourself as a signatory on her banking, this will make it all even harder. if she can seem at all competent and cognitive, I think that banking change needs to be done ASAP, hopefully where she banks also has branches in your city. Also she goes online to SSA to set up her online so that the two of you can access it as needed as SSA does not recognize POA.
You want to get her moved to your city as you take care of incidentals, like buy her new clothes, shoes, books etc. right? And she’s running out of $, right?
To me what would be easiest would be dependent on how much $ she has left, if she has 8-10 months of $ to private pay, I’d suggest that you look for a NH that does LTC Medicaid but move her in as a private pay resident ASAP. The new place will need to do a needs assessment on her to make sure that they can do whatever level of care she needs. This can be sticky cause if in another city, someone will have to pay for the assessment team time to do this unless her old place has a very detailed and constantly updated health chart on her.
IF she doesn’t have $ left and needs to file for LTC Medicaid really soon and the facility she is in right now takes LTC Medicaid, personally if it were me, I’d let her stay there and file for Medicaid. You as POA work with them to get all the paperwork done to get her eligible. Most NH have a list of the items needed to accompany her application. You need to find them & as POA it’s something you should have on hand in a binder and update as needed for her lifetime. if shes been in a facility private pay, it may be a 3 yr lookback (not the usual 5) on her financials and why you need access to her banking. Anyways her application is filed and she become LTC Medicaid eligible. Maybe 3 months. Then since she is fully LTC Medicaid eligible, she can move to another open LTC Medicaid bed anywhere in the state IF they can meet her level of care. So you move her maybe month 4. Should she not be able to move by traveling in your car with you, she will need to pay for a nonEMS medical transfer privately.
Trying to do any of this without you having POA and without you being a signatory on her financials will be very difficult. It would probably mean you’d have to get an attorney (7-10k) and file to become her guardian. If she has kids, Court may want to hear from them as to why they are not POA or trying to themselves be her guardian.
it’s a tough situation. How wonderful you are there for her.
The state pays for the facility (Medicaid). If the facility the patient is in does not accept Medicaid, than family or social worker needs to plan to transition to another facility that does.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
We did all of these years ago and have done it for ourselves. Check and see what the current laws are now, federally and in your state.
the way someone is taken care of when out of funds is thru Medicaid. The person needs to also qualify medically. Call your county office of aged and disabilities… they can give you information and support over the process. When I started down this road, that’s where I went. My mom passed two days before our appointment for the specialist to input the information into the system. She would have filled out the application along with all the necessary documentation from the last five years (Wisconsin) .. when it was financially time , she sends the application.
if your looking for placement, google : care advisors, find someone local to work with. These people are invaluable! I have used someone 3 times. They know what’s available, needs, cost, etc… they are not paid by you , paid by the facility. I used a franchise called care patrol twice .. Google them , they may have one in your area.. otherwise find someone local. I cannot stress the value of care advisors.
good luck … research research research
if she can seem at all competent and cognitive, I think that banking change needs to be done ASAP, hopefully where she banks also has branches in your city. Also she goes online to SSA to set up her online so that the two of you can access it as needed as SSA does not recognize POA.
You want to get her moved to your city as you take care of incidentals, like buy her new clothes, shoes, books etc. right?
And she’s running out of $, right?
To me what would be easiest would be dependent on how much $ she has left, if she has 8-10 months of $ to private pay, I’d suggest that you look for a NH that does LTC Medicaid but move her in as a private pay resident ASAP. The new place will need to do a needs assessment on her to make sure that they can do whatever level of care she needs. This can be sticky cause if in another city, someone will have to pay for the assessment team time to do this unless her old place has a very detailed and constantly updated health chart on her.
IF she doesn’t have $ left and needs to file for LTC Medicaid really soon and the facility she is in right now takes LTC Medicaid, personally if it were me, I’d let her stay there and file for Medicaid. You as POA work with them to get all the paperwork done to get her eligible. Most NH have a list of the items needed to accompany her application. You need to find them & as POA it’s something you should have on hand in a binder and update as needed for her lifetime.
if shes been in a facility private pay, it may be a 3 yr lookback (not the usual 5) on her financials and why you need access to her banking. Anyways her application is filed and she become LTC Medicaid eligible. Maybe 3 months. Then since she is fully LTC Medicaid eligible, she can move to another open LTC Medicaid bed anywhere in the state IF they can meet her level of care. So you move her maybe month 4.
Should she not be able to move by traveling in your car with you, she will need to pay for a nonEMS medical transfer privately.
Trying to do any of this without you having POA and without you being a signatory on her financials will be very difficult. It would probably mean you’d have to get an attorney (7-10k) and file to become her guardian. If she has kids, Court may want to hear from them as to why they are not POA or trying to themselves be her guardian.
it’s a tough situation. How wonderful you are there for her.