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First let me give a little context. I am an only child. I was treated badly growing up, verbally and emotionally abused and basically raised myself- Mother’s an alcoholic ( dry now)- mean lady- from Maryland & the perfect narcissist- no dad I moved out at 17. I’m a nurse. I work full time + Throughout the years, my mother and I got along ONLY IF we saw each other for short periods of time. In 2015 she had a bad accident and I was there to assist her. I was looking at homes for sale 2 -3 years ago and she said “ why don’t you buy mine”? It was almost paid off and I took OVER what was owed + the equity owed , combined it all. End of October 2020 changed everything. She had a stroke. After a few months of therapy she was well enough to come home BUT not be alone. I work full time so this is what I did : I changed my life: since she can’t go upstairs I bought an electric hospital bed and created a bedroom downstairs- I organized all meds- I hired nurses to come in a draw blood, I had home PT and OT for 3 months- I downloaded several cognitive games for her to keep her mind sharp,etc- I hired aides for 12 hours a week ( while I work ) at 29.00 an HOUR ( 920.00 every 2 weeks) - I TOOK ON ALL BILLS - even hers since the stroke . I pay for all food too- what she pays is the aide and her supplement health insurance- THAT'S IT - now mind you, THATS S LOT! But I PAY EVERY BILL . I make her meals, I bathe her, I assist dressing her, I pay for all pads and diapers ( as she is now incontinent ) I give her all medications, I keep tract of her anticoagulant issues/testing, I dress her, buy all her clothes- do all laundry- clean the house,etc. Basically , she orders around from her wheelchair- even when her aides tell me she is walking with a walker ! I feel I care for her well- treating her with dignity when she poops on the floor by accident claiming it was the cat. ( even with poop smeared all over the bed). I have 2 different agencies in here to assist with care 4 days a week. They all know she is difficult.
Now what brings me to writing this.
2-3 weeks ago my Mother fell and hit the back of her head- I called 911- ER took a cat scan , no bleeding- they sent her home- about a week later she is complaining of L hip
pain- crying day after day but is refusing to go to ER- we have had fight after fight about going ( oh! Did I mention she has Dementia AND CHF? ) yes, she does- she forgets she eats, the time of day,etc. ( for example I’ve gotten several call at 4 am asking if I’m going to be home from work soon) - 2 days ago I have been hearing her wheeze- her lungs sound awful and her Oxygen level drops to the low 80’s in less than one minute - she wear O2 100% of the time . I have BEGGED her to have her leg and chest assessed and was met with refusal each time. Yesterday I was done- I said YOU ARE GOING and I called an ambulance. She said “ YOU JUST WAIT” “ YOU'LL GET YOURS” that was it- until the EMT’s were here- “ she doesn’t feed me” she said sadly,crying- “ she won’t give me my medicine”- “she won’t give me my clothes” all to which I said- “Mom, just stop it. I know you’re angry”
My mother left for the hospital- I have called ALL NIGHT with no answers- FINALLY at 0800 the employee says “ you need to call after 1200 to speak to her nurse or MD” I was SO worried !
at 1200 I called back : “ IM SORRY, I CANNOT GIVE YOU ANY INFORMATION on M*** B*** “ click. I call back “ HELLO??? What does that even mean”?? Is she ok? What’s going on???” Click
I call back “ look, I don’t know what’s been said or what’s going on but who can I talk too”? I COULDN'T BELIEVE THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID NEXT” IM SORRY, THERE IS NO M*** B*** HERE AT THIS HOSPITAL “ click.
I am so hurt. I don’t know what SHE SAID, what the EMT said… nothing!
I DONT KNOW WHO TO CALL NEXT
I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO NEXT
I CANT EVEN FIND A PERSON TO TALK TO ME AT HOSPITAL.
HAS ANYONE BEEN THROUGH THIS? SIMILAR? FALSELY ACCUSED?
Can anyone

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"Good morning, this is Worn Out. My mother, Mrs Out has dementia and was taken by ambulance yesterday to St. Vitus hospital due to a possible hip fracture and low oxygen. She was agitated and angry because she didn't want me to call the EMTs; she made some pretty egregious and untrue accusations in front of the crew. I'm an RN and I know they take this stuff seriously. I've called the hospital several times but they are refusing to let me know my mom's condition. I'm her POA and I'm very worried.

Can you help us?"

Get some sleep. ((((Hugs))))
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Tothill Aug 2021
This was going to be my reply, but I would preemptively call them.
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She’s choosing not to be with you. She did it out of spite, but if she wants to come home, she’ll have to come clean. I honestly mean this as gently as possible to you: she’s made her bed - let her lie in it and you get a good night’s sleep.

You’ve worked your butt off trying to be the best daughter in the world so that she will FINALLY love and respect you, but did it work? Or are you just her doormat?

Where she is - wherever she is - she’s being cared for, so you don’t need to worry. Time to look after yourself for a bit, and maybe, when they ask you if you want her back, consider saying no.

I don’t know why we as grown children feel so honorbound to put up with all our abusive parent’s crap when we don’t have to. You don’t have to. YOU are important, too!
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Wornout54 Aug 2021
Thank you for this response. It actually made me cry. I don’t really talk to anyone but my daughter about this. She has seen first hand her treatment , etc. you hit every point head on as if you know her. I feel like instead of thinking how could she do this I should be thinking how DARE she do this. Being angry is so much easier than hurt. Like I told another poster I don’t know WHAT she said in the hospital, I only know what she said to the EMT’s in front of me. My whole life she has been looked at like this frail little lady when in actuality she was a screaming angry alcoholic- with a crazy temper - to date I’ve never heard anyone scream like her. And I’ve NEVER known anyone that cries as much as she does , her whole life. I DONT know why I want her approval and respect. I mean I obliviously do it this wouldn’t hurt so bad . I wish the hospital would at LEAST tell me what’s going on. No one “said” abuse. I’m only going by what she said the the EMT’s.
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This maybe a blessing in disguise. Her lies may now get the State involved. If so, let them take over her care. Let APS investigate. Do you have a formal diagnosis of Dementia? Just tell the truth. Then tell them because of her abuse and now lies, you cannot care for her anymore.

If the hospital tries to release her to you tell them its an unsafe discharge. That you can no longer care for her. That if need be, the State can take over her care.

Stand strong. Your Mom has gone over the line and if u take her back she will think she has won and your life will be so much worse. This is ur chance to get out from under her thumb.
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Wornout54 Aug 2021
Yes, there is a formal Diagnosis. Like I was saying to another poster… I have an abundance of feelings coming through. Right now I feel HURT AND SEVERELY BETRAYED. I feel nauseous, then pissed off . I don’t know what was said in the hospital. I only know what she said to the EMT’s because I was right there. I honestly haven’t even gotten as far as discharge. how could I trust her here with me? I actually hadn’t thought of anything like that ! I have a message out for a social worker in the hospital. Hopefully I’ll get a call tomorrow. Thank you again
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What to do next is go to bed and somehow try to get some sleep. In the morning, I think if I were you I'd preempt the situation and call APS myself.

Has anyone been through this, i.e. a situation where a lady in her eighties with multiple comorbidities, in pain, angry and frightened and now in hospital makes false accusations against her primary caregiver? - for sure, anyone working in older adults' medicine will have come across it time after time. So relax. As a mandated reporter yourself, you know that accusations have to be taken at face value *at first*. Then they are investigated, and then a true account is reached.

You are hurt, and you also must be frightened not only because of what your mother might have said but also because she's injured and you can't find out what's going on. Unfortunately there is nothing to be done about that until you can get hold of the right people, which won't be until office hours at the earliest.

So, somehow, try to get some sleep.
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rovana Aug 2021
There is a complication here that you might not be aware of. False accusations may be investigated, the victim of them found innocent and accusations untrue, BUT is there a formal adjudication that the accused person was found innocent? I mean a formal legal process that is put in the record to protect a person? I know of a case where this was not done and the accusation was on record all right, but NOT the "Innocent of All Charges" equivalent of a legal trial finding. A big hole here. There is a justifiable anxiety to protect victims of possible abuse, but not enough thought given to protect people falsely accused. Badly constructed system. Worked as an admin assistant and saw this kind of thing many a time. Tunnel vision on accomplishing one goal and totally oblivious as to the ramifications of the chosen process.
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You went above and beyond what anyone should do for an abusive narcissist. Now it's time to let someone else take over her care. You deserve better than now having the stress of what a vindictive old woman has done to try and screw you over. Please listen to the advice below and do not allow her to come back into your home.
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Do you wear scrubs. If so, march into that hospital with your scrubs on and POAs in hand and tell the desk you need to talk to someone in authority. That your Mom was sent to the hospital by you and you have not been able to get any info on your Mom. Then tell the person in authority Mom suffers from Dementia and as POA u have a right to info on her health. If you have something from a doctor stating a formal diagnosis that makes ur POA effective if not an immediate POA. If immediate thats better. You don't need to see Mom, just need information on her health.

My daughter always gets results when she wears her scrubs. Professional courtesy.

As a Nurse you know the chain of command. Try the DON, then up the ladder. She/he has a boss.
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I agree with those who have said, "don't take her back." If you do, you are leaving yourself open to a lot of legal grief. If she tells someone you hit her and she points to a bruise, you could be investigated. As a nurse, do you really want to put your career on the line? I bruise very easily and I am not even on blood thinners. Be very careful. If she has dementia, no telling what she can think, and she will be believable, because in her mind it is true. Look up Teepa Snow on YouTube..
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Wornout54 Aug 2021
Thank you so much. Yes, I will look that up on YouTube. No I didn’t even think about my job. Jesus I really didn’t. I don’t even know what she said exactly yet . I definitely haven’t thought about taking her back. I don’t think I could at this point. I couldn’t trust being alone with her . this really hurts. I really am so grateful for everyone responding. I’ve been thinking a lot. I am going to try and get some sleep. I think I may call APS myself in the morning . Got any suggestions on what to say when I start talking? :/
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Potentially dangerous situation for you. You have done more than obligated to care for mom, but now it is clear that discharge to your home would be unsafe for you. She should be placed for her own good.
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You have to face the fact that many many posters have been ‘falsely accused’, first to their carer, then to friends and other family members, and occasionally to the police or other authorities including a hospital. You need to decide if this is the last straw – and it probably should be.

Your next steps (after some sleep, possibly plus a doctor’s visit to get some emergency sleeping pills) should probably be:
a) To put it in writing to the hospital that you cannot and will not take her back as it would be an unsafe discharge for both of you.
b) To check with a lawyer to be sure that the house that you ‘took over’ is now in your name, not still in your mother’s name, or to sort that out if it hasn't happened.
c) To stop worrying about the long term for your mother. If you do not take her back, the SW at the hospital will have to place her. Eventually you will be able to go and see her, and make whatever peace you can. In the very unlikely event that she has walked out and died somewhere of exposure, she will have made her own decision to go to whatever future life she believes in.
d) To contact any other relatives or friends to ask if they have any news of her, and to put your problem to them. They might be allowed to visit her and give you some information, but the main reason to call is to avoid getting blamed yourself, based on the lies.

Best wishes!
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sp19690 Aug 2021
I hope the OP heeds your advice. Once someone intentionally makes false accusations against someone that could potentially even cause her to lose her job that is it. She needs to wash her hands of the caregiving and financial burden she has taken on.
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When you reach someone, just explain the initial fact pattern. Then let them do the talking. Remain as calm and professional as you can to maintain credibility.

it is terribly hurtful to be accused when you have worked so hard. Give yourself great credit for your past forgiveness and efforts.

After this experience resolves —and it will— keep a fair distance from her crosshairs for your self-preservation.

Sometimes we focus to correct those most difficult relationships in our lives in an attempt to find inner peace. Go through the maze backwards now - if spending time with your mother gives you inner peace, proceed cautiously. If however, you just feel angst, accept that you have already done your best, and done much more than many would attempt.
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