Follow
Share

After almost dying of pneumonia 5 weeks ago Dad (90) miraculously recovered but fell a few days later from his hospital-bed and broke his cheekbone. He had to undergo surgery and felt so frail that he asked me to find him a place in AL, fearing that he would not be able to deal with my demented Mother (80) at home anymore.


I was skeptical since on multiple former occasions he had already turned down AL places last minute, but ok: I set the process in motion once again. Spent hours on the phone trying to find him a place nearby, did a lot of paperwork, transported his things to the AL - got everything prepared and assisted in his admission interview etc. Everything seemed well.


Early morning after just one night in AL he attacked me via phone in the most icy and hateful way for having taken his freedom away, something I had "secretly and maliciously been planning for the last few years", and he "thanked" me for getting rid of him "just like this". Two hours later he was back in his own house with the help of a friend.


His attack left me in total shock, the more as he is NOT suffering from dementia but is clear-minded and highly eloquent. For the last 5 weeks I had torn myself apart between his hospital stay(s), doctors calls, finding AL and spending time with Mom so she does not feel too lost. Again, I neglected my son, my house, my friends, myself ---- so I was so furious and hurt by his comments that I could hardly breathe. After a long cry I withdrew my contact number from all services regarding my parents and gave my brother's number instead, canceled POA and felt RELIEF.


In the evening my brother called, after a long talk he obviously had with Dad, and tried to make excuses for Dad's behavior (old, afraid of death, frail etc.). Once again I was supposed to push my own feelings aside like I did all my life, being a typical parentified child, and was asked to call Dad for the sake of "peace". I refused. Told my brother that I was done for good.


Shortly after my mother called, wailing on voicemail that I should call my poor suffering father. He did not even have the courage to call himself but let Mom and Bro do the diplomacy. By that time, I knew that this pattern I knew only too well from childhood would repeat and repeat endlessly until I would get out, so I called Dad (who was not even apologizing, pretending he would not remember what he had said) and told him as calmly as possible that he could live as he wanted and I would honor his freedom, but it was about time I honored my own freedom, too. I would not accept to be treated this way anymore and that it obviously would be better for their sake and mine if I stopped my caregiving role altogether.


Haven't heard from him since, but the first "flying monkeys" already tried to manipulate me back into the system. Seems the smear campaign and pity party are set in full motion. To clarify: it is not only my Father who regularly puts me down and makes me responsible for his feelings, but my Mother even more, so she is not an innocent victim here.


How do I prevent falling back into the trap? I cannot stand another round of abuse, but having been trained all my life to put my parents' needs first, I fear I might not withstand the outside pressure and internal guilt, especially since death may be around the corner.


Any suggestions would be very helpful. Thank you!

This question has been closed for answers. Ask a New Question.
Find Care & Housing
Stay out of it. Your situation sounds very similar to my dysfunctional family that manipulated me into doing the heavy work that none of the siblings wanted to do. I got the smear campaign, called crazy by just trying to help. I had a sister who was severely disabled that no one wanted to care for. So, I was forced into the caregiver role. God looked out for all of us and placed people in my life who helped me get her placed in a beautiful group home. I rented an apartment for daughter and myself and moved in it. My daughter went to high school in this neighborhood and graduated. I continued with my support groups, church and my job. I had a good job for twenty-nine years with no breaks in my employment. It has been hard since I was forced to retire due to the pandemic, but I have no real regrets. My father's wife got willed the house that mom wanted me to have before she died. I no longer call it home and haven't been back in the neighborhood not even to shop.

You ended the POA. Don't let false guilt trick you into taking back that responsibility. Parents need to learn that they have to take responsibility for their own lives especially in old age. We are not old age insurance, and we don't deserve the abuse when we are trying to help.
Helpful Answer (18)
Report
cherokeegrrl54 Mar 2022
Amen sister!!! Stick to your boundaries and and the guilt trips. You deserve some peace in your life.
(5)
Report
See 2 more replies
Just a quick update for all of you who gave me such valuable advice:

After a week of radio silence two days ago my dad finally called and apologized. Considering his frail state and the possibility that he might not be alive when I return from my rehabilitation I had a long talk with him, not backing down on my newly found boundaries but still reconciling with him.

Told him I'll visit him and mother on sunday before my departure, but would not take up the old schedule anymore. He was happy, I was relieved, and I am able now to discover new terrain, with a lot of distance hopefully after I return.

I want to thank ALL of you for your kind and insightful support and want to reassure you that it is not lost. I won't return home before june, so "Time Is On My Side".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McOmcNwqprA

Did I mention that in my next life I'm going to be a female rock star?!? :))))))))))

Lots of love & thank you folks - You were of immense help to me!

CU back in summer,
Unkraut
Helpful Answer (17)
Report
AlvaDeer Mar 2022
this is the beginning and can be beginning of a whole new way of interacting. As I have said here often, we tell people who we are and how they are allowed to treat them. No need for meanness of argument. Just move away from negativity. Respond in your best interest, gently, and move away. Train them. Teach them that you will not be talked to or treated in a certain manner. You will be surprised how easy it is, soon. You will be surprised how successful. And you will be surprised how much nicer it will be for both you and for them. Good luck. Hope you will continue to update us.
(3)
Report
See 3 more replies
Hold the line…every time you start to allow the guilt of it, reread what you wrote , I wish you strength…
Helpful Answer (15)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
Yes, it is good to read it again and again. Actually all the reading here is of incredible value to me.
So many smart and insightful people - life saving stuff!
(4)
Report
Do not return to the system.
Go to a trained licensed Social Worker trained in life transitions for support.
Change your G-word. You are not in fact a felon who gets joy from being evil. You are a caring child who has done what you can given your human limitations. What you are feeling now is the OTHER G-word which is GRIEF. Grief that you have no way to make this right. That you did it and now everyone expects you to KEEP on doing this no matter the cost to you, no matter the hopelessness.
Turn off the phone. Give Mom and Dad the number for 9 1 1. Check in once a week. Let the family pick up the slack as they choose. They will be sympathetic soon enough.
As well as the G-word being changed to grief, I suggest you add a V word, and the victim is you. As you said, your father is not demented. I am certain he is uncertain and terrified and overwhelmed, but his actions will drive help away from him, and that is someplace he will have to go on the learned-behavior spectrum.
So sorry. This will hurt you. Not everything can be fixed. You will grieve and I am certain your parents are doing the same. But staying in this swirl of rancid stew is not going to help a thing.
At the least, tell siblings you are now taking a month's break to figure out where you stand finally. Do not resume the POA.
Helpful Answer (15)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
Thank you, that was valuable advice. And though I've heard the "guilt vs grief" rule before I notoriously keep forgetting that I have NO REASON to feel guilty about and that I'm not a felon. I bet my parents feel a lot less guilt than I do (which is so twisted!!!).

Hard to internalize this, but I keep trying. And one day it will sink in for good.
(10)
Report
See 1 more reply
You're already handling the situation perfectly. You did all the right things and should not have one moment of guilt about any of it. I know that you do though because you've been conditioned to. Me too. We are family scapegoats. Nobody just becomes one overnight. No. The training starts when we're kids. We are the emotional dumping ground. We are the one mom and dad blow up at. We are the one who gets all the abuse, negativity, and gaslighting. When we're grown up we usually become the designated caregiver to them also. I'm willing to bet your mother put you down and did lots of gaslighting long before dementia showed up.
Try to think of the situation in these terms. Your parents are enjoying life right now because of you. The pity party is jumping. Mom and dad are loving all sympathy and attention people are paying them. That gift is from you. I'm guessing some of that attention and pity is probably coming from people who weren't bothering with them all that much before, or at all. This happens with situations like yours. The elderly parents suddenly get an army of allies (family members, acquaintances) who probably didn't pay them much attention before. People who never helped out with any of their care needs. People who wouldn't be bothered to just come and sit with your demented mother for a few hours to help out. Then there's a reason for a pity party because there's a new villain in town and all the 'flying monkeys' start showing up. Mom and dad become V.I.P.'s to these people who couldn't care less before.
You've also gifted them with a spring of complaining that they can draw on which never runs dry.
The people who know you know that you didn't do anything wrong. You helped your parents and did right by them in spite of their abusive treatment of you. Their "allies" who are buying into their lying crap about you can go pound sand. You don't need them and shouldn't even give them a thought. You have your own life with people in it like your son who love and respect you. Be with them and let your brother handle it with your parents. You can offer to help him because he's your brother, but only in indirect ways that will not involve seeing or speaking to your parents.
I'd like to say from one family scapegoat to another, that I'm proud of you for extracting yourself from an abusive and toxic situation. You did the right thing because no one has to tolerate abuse even if it's coming from people with dementia.
Helpful Answer (14)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
Thank you
BurntCaregiver, for your exact estimation of where I'm being at. It made me cry. You are like a pathfinder for giving me validation and the right direction.

I was very shaky today since there has been complete radio silence from my parents part. I know I should love it but instead it makes me anxious. In a way I was hoping for my Dad to call and apologize so that I would not have to take the next (hard) step, but he did not.

Questioning my decision a lot, though deep down I know it is the right one. Trying to stay firm, but no guarantee given...
(5)
Report
See 1 more reply
Unkraut68:

I read your reply to InfamilyService.

You think that if you walk away, "flying monkeys, reassuring each other that they did no wrong, and that i am just a hysteric unloved single woman who needs to take out her frustration on innocent old folks..."

Your choices are either be abused by your parents to the end of time, or be thought of (wrongly) as a hysteric unloved single woman. Choice one is clearly much worse than choice two. And if you develop thick skin, and brush off their opinion as that of crazy irrelevant people, then you can just flush their opinion down the toilet where it belongs.

Go live your life freely. If they talk bad about you, that's because they are jealous of you.
Helpful Answer (14)
Report
Firstof5 Mar 2022
I had to step away from my caretaking role for similar reasons. I still feel guilty about not caretaking because I was raised to be the family caretaker even though I am abused for it.

It helps when I look at it this way "If I am going to be attacked and criticized anyway, I might as well deserve it and take care of myself."
(7)
Report
There is a book called "Boundries" by Townsend and Cloud. Its Christian based. My daughter read it and said it was good, one thing she got from it was:

When you tell someone No, you are not responsible for the reaction u get.

Its said many times on this forum:

"No is a one word sentence" and "guilt is self-imposed".

Give Dad/Mom a list of Assisted Livings. Then tell them its up to them to call and set up appointments to talk to the directors. You will not be doing the groundwork anymore. Give them the numbers of Office of Aging and Adult protection services and any other number where there is help for them.

"Again I neglected my son, my house, my friends, myself" make all this your priority. Mom and Dad come in second and always should have. I bet they have never done anything for you. It should go both ways.

They now need you more than you need them. Keep that in mind. Seems Dad uses you as a scapegoat. Expecting you to do all the work and then saying you are the problem. This is the time to step back. You are not going to get an apology because Dad is a Narcissist. Look it up bet he fits the discription. As long as you are doing for them, he is going to blame you. When Mom or brother calls tell them they do not own your life. You have choices. Your choice now is to back off because you realize that all these years you have been emotionally abused. That when you became an adult and moved out of their home, they were no longer a priority. The family you made is, your son and your friends. They became part of that family. They were/are capable of taking care of themselves. There are resources they can take advantage of. Just a thought, as long as Dad has you to blame, he leaves Mom alone. Its not your fault she chose to stay with him.

This was the straw that broke the camels back. Let brother do the work now. Then he will see what u have been going thru. You can help from the sidelines helping brother but be aware of boundries there to. By helping him you may be pulled back into helping them.

Keep telling yourself your son is your priority and so are you. Unless an emergency you do not give up your plans. Just say sorry, I have (or son has) something planned. As soon as anyone gets abusive you walk away or quietly hang up the phone. Quietly because it really erks them when they have kept talking and no one is there. Or just say, "I am hanging up now".

Its time for you to take over your life. Your parents are just a part of it. Seems if Dad can afford an AL he can afford people to do things for him and Mom. Maybe they both can move to an AL. You know the saying "once burned shame on you, twice burned shame on me" this means that you don't allow that second time to burned. Being burned is now a pattern that you have finally seen. Its now give them and brother the info and let them take it from there.

My new mantra "I am here to help people find a way, not be the way".
Helpful Answer (13)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
Thank you, so much great advice here! :-)

My brother is not too enthusiastic of picking up the rope I just dropped. But he was spared the worst abuse in our childhood, so his boundaries are better, plus he does not live as close. Though he does not quite get my problem I am very glad he exists.

"Just a thought, as long as Dad has you to blame, he leaves Mom alone. Its not your fault she chose to stay with him."

She is as much a narcissist as he is. Actually worse since she was more around during my childhood while he was absent a lot. I always used to think of my father as "the good parent" until due to aging his escape mechanisms (work, politics, travel) began to fail.

For decades they perfected this game of sending me back and forth with their sick marriage and finally reunite to blame their problems on me. When they got sick and old I fell in the empathy trap ("These poor old folks need me - how would they possibly harm me?"), but Boy - was I naive!!!
(4)
Report
You have done an amazing job of putting yourself first!!! What a mountain to ascend! Guilt. It’s what for dinner. Unless you’re the favored child and obviously you weren’t. The guilt is a natural byproduct from growing up with abusive, bullying parents. That’s what they do. Sometimes I felt guilty for existing or having my own opinion. Another aspect of growing up with parents like this is it’s very easy to become a people pleaser. So it’s not feeling guilty about just this situation —it’s also very ingrained.

When one starts to look at the wreckage from growing up with very dysfunctional parents, grief comes to the surface. The grieving comes from realizing that you lost out on good, healthy parenting that could have given you a stronger foundation for life. And then it will be there when you recognize that kind and accepting words will never come from them.

You have listened to your gut and taken the right, corrective action. If there’s contact with your brother, listen again so you don’t get sucked in. Take ownership of the healthy decisions for you and your son. Don’t worry about figuring this out in your 50s. Many caregivers don’t ever let go of bad situations because they can’t stand up to unreasonable parents.
Helpful Answer (12)
Report

Tell them you will consider re-establishing contact with your parents after you have received an acknowledgement from your father that he himself asked you to organise the ALF this time around, and his apology for rounding on you. Preferably in writing. And certainly not before.

And tell yourself, when you're tempted, that you are not setting yourself up again. Think of any invitation or cry for help as meaning "can't you just hold still so we can slap you? Please please please, awww, please, don't be mean, it doesn't hurt..."
Helpful Answer (11)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
"... can't you just hold still so we can slap you? Please please please, awww, please, don't be mean, it doesn't hurt..."

LOL. Thanks for making me laugh - it is exactly that!
(8)
Report
Firstly, these hard choices, this *tough love* is needed in some families. Well done.

Recognising poor communication methods, manipulation & use of 'flying monkeys' is a learned skill. Well done again.

Cutting through those monkeys to call Dad direct is a very positive step to changing the pattern. Very well done.

Stepping back to a safer distance, including not accepting abuse & resigning POA duties. Very well done again.

It takes YEARS for some to get where you have.

What I have seen next is;

Next chosen one/POA towes the line. Then gets the same abusive & manipulation treatment. Learns what you did. Steps back.

Once all adult children are exhausted, the next chosen one/POA is chosen. A niece/nephew is invited into the fold "all my children are.. insert one of: hopeless, greedy, selfish, drug addicts". Maybe the dangle of a will is used. If no nieces/nephews take the bait, a guilable housecleaner is next "all my family are thieves".

Depending on your family size, it's possible that Dad will expire before he runs out of nieces & nephews...

I met one 'Gent' last year (before he met his end) busy trying to locate nephew #2 before sacking nephew #1 as POA (son long since sacked).

Unkraut, I send you the biggest hug I can 🤗
Helpful Answer (11)
Report
UnKraut68 Mar 2022
"It takes YEARS for some to get where you have."

Beatty,
it TOOK me years. :-)))))))

- an abusive childhood
- being scapegoated
- a nice collection of abusive relationships
- and 3 years of caregiving

I am still shaky but hope to stand firm.
Love & Hugs
(7)
Report
See All Answers
This question has been closed for answers. Ask a New Question.
Ask a Question
Subscribe to
Our Newsletter