Given the amount of information available to us all at the present time, and into this 3rd year of pandemic, I believe that this post is a fishing expedition that is put here specifically to cause bickering on this page. I think that is a shame, as there are few "regulars" on Forum who are not good and decent people who would go out of their way to help ANY neighbor in trouble. I am reporting my comment for the admins to decide whether to repost what seems to me a "fishing expedition" in discussions or eliminate it altogether. I trust their decision implicitly. As your post mentions being an RN I think you qualify to make your own decisions for your own family and for yourself with the amount of information you can research. For myself I am deeply subscribed to the Darwinian theory at this point. I allow people to make their own decisions for their own lives, and I wish them the best, and move forward making my own decisions for myself. I am sorry if I have misjudged your comment at all Jane Dee, but it does raise many alarm bells. I wish you the best.
If you hire privately, you can choose not to hire anyone not vaccinated/boosted. If the caregiver is paid by MedicareMedicaid, they are required to be vaccinated/boosted. If you hire through a non medical home care agency - 'companion care', 'supportive care"then the agency has their own rules. Ask them. They may not require vaccinations, they may requires that the caregiver staff wear masks at all times, do good hand hygiene, and keep 6 feet away from clients. (defeats the point of the caring, from my point of view). My mom has a privately paid CG - who is vaccinated, but did not mask up during Omicron surge. My mom got exposed to COVID by this CG who was diagnosed the day after she was with my mom, luckily that didn't ruin Christmas for all of us. (we all tested negative on the 24th). They go shopping, out to eat, etc. without masks unless they are in a place with a mandate. I'm not happy about this, but I didn't hire her...and she makes my. mother happy.
Does a Bear go to the lavatory in the woods? A rhetorical question.. It is a factor for approximately 73.3% of the people in the U.S. as of 12/30/2021. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have been jabbed. I recommend getting the vaccine.
Why are you asking this question? Your profile says you are a retired nurse so you should have your own opinion on the matter formulated long ago. The answer to this question is up to YOU, not anyone else, to determine. What you consider 'safe' I may not worry about at all and vice versa. These types of questions only stir up 'vaccination' debates on this forum and get everyone riled up and fighting!
If vaccination of caregivers is considered a factor in the safety of those cared for in YOUR home, then insist these CGs get vaccinated. If not, don't.
The answer is individual to each person & situation and depends on how you feel about it personally.
Lealonnie, given all the discordant guidance that's gone on from local to national levels, plus the SCOTUS decision that upheld the CMS Medicare/Medicaid rule two weeks ago, most people including retired nurses might not know what today's guidance is.
It's not an illegitimate question especially as she's out of the field now.
The answer is that agencies that take Medicare/Medicaid have to comply. A client has every right to ask what the agencies' policy is and what the caregiver's status is.
The actual rule says that employers taking Medicare/Medicaid be vaccinated. Specifically, "Health workers in about half of the United States Thursday will need to be vaccinated against COVID-19 as the Biden administration's requirement takes effect. Enforcement of the requirement begins in 25 states and the District of Columbia, and will extend to every other state except Texas on Feb. 14. Enforcement in Texas will start Feb 22."
This rule would not cover indies as most can't bill Medicare or Medicaid.
Even with the rule, it is your right as a client to demand proof. My SO submitted a copy of his vax card for his work file, plus carries his card everywhere so he can prove to any client with a concern that he is indeed vaccinated (and boostered since).
He's not even in healthcare. He's the guy who gets called to fix toilets. The client still has a right to ask.
Oh, plus SP1960, omicron is believed to have been festering in the bodies of UNVACCINATED people, specifically those who weren't getting their HIV treated either. https://www.scmp.com/news/world/africa/article/3158645/omicron-variant-likely-born-hiv-patient-says-south-african
So stop spreading disinfo or at least submit with reliable mainstream sources.
Absolute nonsense. How many unvaccinated people have hiv? Just read an article about low vitamin d deficiencies caused people who got covid to get sicker than those with higher vitamin d levels.
Not for me. The covid vax does not keep a person from getting or spreading covid. The truth is finally being shared about masks not working, unless they're N95's. So, I am going more with the idea that if you're sick - stay home.
Yes. Unvaccinated people carry a heavier viral load than unvaccinated people if they have Covid.
In other words, they're more contagious.
Plus, I'd never hire someone who is the healthcare profession who didn't believe in medical science, even if they're someone who is only doing non-medical tasks.
Please stop spreading lies. There is nothing that says an unvaccinated person is more contagious than a vaccinated person. In fact vaccinations are the cause of this viral mutation.
Yes. It is a huge factor for me. All my aunts caregivers wear mask and have had their vaccines. But you will need to check with your caregivers as not every state , agency or caregiver may have the same criteria as you.
I think that is a shame, as there are few "regulars" on Forum who are not good and decent people who would go out of their way to help ANY neighbor in trouble.
I am reporting my comment for the admins to decide whether to repost what seems to me a "fishing expedition" in discussions or eliminate it altogether. I trust their decision implicitly.
As your post mentions being an RN I think you qualify to make your own decisions for your own family and for yourself with the amount of information you can research.
For myself I am deeply subscribed to the Darwinian theory at this point. I allow people to make their own decisions for their own lives, and I wish them the best, and move forward making my own decisions for myself.
I am sorry if I have misjudged your comment at all Jane Dee, but it does raise many alarm bells. I wish you the best.
If the caregiver is paid by MedicareMedicaid, they are required to be vaccinated/boosted.
If you hire through a non medical home care agency - 'companion care', 'supportive care"then the agency has their own rules. Ask them. They may not require vaccinations, they may requires that the caregiver staff wear masks at all times, do good hand hygiene, and keep 6 feet away from clients. (defeats the point of the caring, from my point of view).
My mom has a privately paid CG - who is vaccinated, but did not mask up during Omicron surge. My mom got exposed to COVID by this CG who was diagnosed the day after she was with my mom, luckily that didn't ruin Christmas for all of us. (we all tested negative on the 24th). They go shopping, out to eat, etc. without masks unless they are in a place with a mandate.
I'm not happy about this, but I didn't hire her...and she makes my. mother happy.
A rhetorical question..
It is a factor for approximately 73.3% of the people in the U.S. as of 12/30/2021. Otherwise they probably wouldn't have been jabbed. I recommend getting the vaccine.
If vaccination of caregivers is considered a factor in the safety of those cared for in YOUR home, then insist these CGs get vaccinated. If not, don't.
The answer is individual to each person & situation and depends on how you feel about it personally.
It's not an illegitimate question especially as she's out of the field now.
The answer is that agencies that take Medicare/Medicaid have to comply. A client has every right to ask what the agencies' policy is and what the caregiver's status is.
Enforcement of the requirement begins in 25 states and the District of Columbia, and will extend to every other state except Texas on Feb. 14. Enforcement in Texas will start Feb 22."
https://news.yahoo.com/vaccine-mandate-health-workers-starts-160530090.html
This rule would not cover indies as most can't bill Medicare or Medicaid.
Even with the rule, it is your right as a client to demand proof. My SO submitted a copy of his vax card for his work file, plus carries his card everywhere so he can prove to any client with a concern that he is indeed vaccinated (and boostered since).
He's not even in healthcare. He's the guy who gets called to fix toilets. The client still has a right to ask.
Oh, plus SP1960, omicron is believed to have been festering in the bodies of UNVACCINATED people, specifically those who weren't getting their HIV treated either. https://www.scmp.com/news/world/africa/article/3158645/omicron-variant-likely-born-hiv-patient-says-south-african
So stop spreading disinfo or at least submit with reliable mainstream sources.
In other words, they're more contagious.
Plus, I'd never hire someone who is the healthcare profession who didn't believe in medical science, even if they're someone who is only doing non-medical tasks.
But you will need to check with your caregivers as not every state , agency or caregiver may have the same criteria as you.