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The oldest has health issues and so do I. Prior to the broken hip we all took turns staying with her. At this point she is not progressing in rehab, and I assume they will release her. My brother and youngest sister say they will take care of her and are acting like we don’t care about mom. Mom is very self-centered; an example is yesterday she called my older sister and said she needed soup. My sister called the youngest sister who drove a can of soup 40 miles (round trip) to mom. The rehab apparently couldn’t heat the soup, so mom called my brother who drove 30 miles twice (round trip) to heat the soup and take it back to her. She is so hard to deal with I know I would not be equipped to deal with her. I don’t want to blow up on her. It’s crazy.


Requests such as bring deodorant, comb my hair, open my Kleenex, etc. She uses us. Should I feel guilty about my decision not to help with her care? I will visit once a week, l live 100 miles away (round trip) . She will be bedridden, and I think a nursing home would be best.


We are all on sertraline, mainly because of her. Dad died 2 years ago. Mom has histrionic personality disorder, and all this bullsh*t has really come out since dad died.


Any advice will be greatly appreciated.

Your siblings are suffering from F.O.G. That stands for Fear, Obligation and Guilt.

Your mom needs to be where she can get 24/7 care from professional caregivers who get to go home after their shift.

You need not feel guilty; you did not cause your mom's old age or infirmity. Perhaps grief better describes your predominant emotion here.

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The solution for your Mom will be long term care if she isn't progressing in rehab and has lost her mobility. The good news is that Medicaid covers LTC when she qualifies financially.

Rehab is not an assisted living: there is lots they don't do for patients, especially if they're understaffed. My 100 yr old Aunt with advanced dementia forgot she couldn't walk unassisted and got out of her bed in her home and fell and broke her hip. We declined surgery due to her dementia and advanced age (although she was healthy in all other ways). She was still trying to get out of bed in the rehab. Her 104-yr old sister with whom she lived, and my 2 cousins who were her daily caregivers kept pressuring me (the PoA) to release her back to the house, where she would continue to get out of bed and chairs and continue to fall. With a big decline in mobility and the cousins being late 50s and mid 70s... they had no idea what they'd be signing up for.

In the rehab her sister and the cousins visited her every day, making sure she ate and drank (since she'd never keep an IV in). Mercifully she passed away right before her coverage was up (probably due to a clot that often develops from large bone breaks).

Keep your healthy boundary and don't start orbiting around her. She would be the best care in a good LTC facility. At 89, yy MIL is in an excellent LTC facility. She is immobile and has moderate dementia. She enjoys the activities, attention from staff and good medical oversight... on Medicaid.

You're not responsible for your Mom's happiness. You can't choose your family members but you can choose how much or little you interact with them. I wish you great clarity, wisdom, courage and peace in your heart as you defend your very rational boundaries.
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40 miles to bring soup and another 30 miles to heat it up. Wow !!

Step back from this . You visit once a week etc per what you want/able to do.

Your mother needs to stay in a facility. She will be too difficult to physically handle at home.

Your senior aged siblings will find that out the hard way if they take mom home.
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cover9339 Jun 22, 2024
Not to mention the soup being in some type of container to keep it hot
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What a completely ridiculous circus mom is running, enjoying her role as ringmaster! Stop participating minus any guilt. Stop listening to any disparaging comments from siblings who want to continue the circus. Do for mom what you reasonably can, on your schedule. Make no apology for what you choose not to do. Dancing to her tune will eventually wear out everyone, but that’s on them. Please don’t ruin your own health over this
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I am sorry to say that at this point those siblings who can no longer be involved in care/who can no longer DO the care, should inform those that wish to continue that they are "quitting". All of these guilt-tripping accusations are quite ludicrous and I am sorry that they are being listened to. No one cause this and no one can fix this. Mom has had her life. Sorry to be so blunt,, but that's a fact. She has now lived so long that her own children are all elders, too! Like me (at 81) she's past her "sell by date".

This is a simple matter of Mom should be in care. PERIOD. Not only has she now broken her hip, but she cannot recover from it in that she cannot muster the strength to participate fully in rehab. That means living alone at home is over. Falls are, as this old nurse can tell you, often the beginning of the end. The end will only come all the quicker without recognition she cannot remain alone anymore.

If some sibling (s) wish to sacrifice their own lives on the burning funeral pyre of your mother then that is up to them. The others should say "Sorry; I have my own life and right now that has priority.
Taking on this care when you are not A) ready B) willing C) able is ridiculous. The wrath of the guilting sibs won't kill anyone. Stand clear and strong. Tell them you've no intention of discussing it, but are simply informing then that you will not be "enabling this poor decision making". End of full sentence, and add a "Bye. Have a nice day."
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Your mother is driving the crazy train and you need to get off at the next stop.

It seems like your mother's sole purpose in life is to put ALL of her elderly children into the grave before her. Heck she may even want to have y'all buried alive with her if she goes first (how many of the kids would agree to this....maybe one or two, especially the two who drove miles over a can of soup)

If the other siblings choose to continue engaging and jumping through hoops for your mother, then that is their choice BUT you do not have to do it anymore.

Seriously the entire soup fiasco is the stupidest and saddest thing I have read on here in a while. Elderly adult children driving 40 miles and 30 miles round trip to please this wretched woman over a can of soup.

Mom needs to remain in the facility where she is BUT if the other siblings let her come home then it will be on them to provide the round the clock care she needs. Please don't participate in this insanity. Tell them you are done and be done.
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cover9339 Jun 22, 2024
Depends on what soup it was.
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I agree and like what Alva said.

That driving 30 and 40 miles just so Mom can have a can of soup is ridiculous. A broken hip is serious in the elderly. And Mom not progressing at 98 is not surprising. They are good until they aren't. I would have her evaluated for 24/7 care. If found she needs it, those two that feel they can do the caring should be told what is involved in that caring. A 100lb woman who is deadweight is not easy to help get out of a chair or turn over in bed. Seems Mom is going to be demanding. They will be at her beck and call 24/7. Believe me they will burn out quickly.

Does anyone have POA? That person needs to make the decision. Me, I would tell the Social Worker Mom cannot return home. No one can care for her and have her placed in LTC. Its what it is. Mom is 98 with Senior Citizens for children and a couple with health problems of their own. Feel no guilt, its what it is.
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cover9339 Jun 22, 2024
The soup story is sort of funny.
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Every sibling is free to choose for themself - no majority rule vote then all must obey.

If any want to try providing the care themselves, they can ask the rehab for a *Trial of Care*.

Staff can arrange the day. The sibling shadows the staff, learns how to transfer (learn to use lifting aides or machinery if applicable), bathing, attend to toileting hygiene. If mostly bedbound this will include bedbaths, turns & repositioning. Where I live this can even be offered over 24hrs & the would-be caregiver provides all the care overnight as well. Just as they would at home.

A rehab nurse told me "Some are OK. Say yes I can do this. But some are crying in the corner within an hour. Either way, at least they KNOW what they are in for".

Real lived experience is the best cure for denial.

PS Even if the 'helpers' plan on round the clock aides, they need to know the role as there are always cancellations & no-shows.
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She needs to be in a skilled nursing facility where professionals can take care of her.

Why does everyone jump when she says frog? She's in a facility and can't even talk with you (plural) unless you make it possible by getting on the phone with her or going to see her. Why answer the phone? Why go to see her? What is her grip on everyone that you have all fallen apart to the point where you're taking sertraline?

Reply to the two who say you don't care about mom. Tell them that you love the old hag - er, I mean mommy dearest. Follow that up with your declaration that since there are oodles of professionals in various facilities who can take care of her better than you can, you choose not to continue ruining your health for the old hag - er, I mean sweet old lady. Plus you've transformed into a soup Nazi. "No more soup for you! Next!"

Why don't you want to blow up at her? What could be the worst result of that? Maybe the dear old witch would shut up? Or huddle in fear under her pillows? OMG, there's an idea!

Wishing you well as you progress in this journey with the wicked old bat. Er, I mean sweet mommy user.
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I have no words. Your siblings are certainly under her thumb. I would have a family meeting and tell them that you are physically incapable of caring for her. State what you can do (once a week visits for X amount of hours) but that you will not jeopardize your health to give your mother the illusion of independence. Tell them they need to look into LTC facilities because there is no way all 4 of you can provide the care she needs. If they refuse then tell them you wish them well but all you can do is the once a week visit.
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