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Does the lender know that the 35K is coming from you? Lenders have to "source" the monies that make up a down-payment.

Do you have the funds to close?

Do you know what the charge for the quit claim deed will be?

Did you have the home inspected?

We HAD an inspection. But inspections don't include the sewer lines that run to the street. Yup, ours broke a couple of months after we moved in. Cost us $1800. In 1980. Probably 10K these days.

This is from a site called consumer-action.org

"Before You Add Someone To Your Title
There are just a few valid reasons to amend your homeownership by adding another person’s name to the title to your home. This is also called transferring title. If you transfer all or part of your ownership to another person, you lose control.
Legitimate reasons to amend your home’s title:
You wish to add your spouse to the title.
You are selling the property.
You are borrowing against your home equity and you are required to amend your title to give the lender a security interest in your property.
You could lose your rights if you add someone to your title under the following circumstances:
Allowing someone to “hold” the deed temporarily.
Adding a person other than a spouse or child to the title can result in higher property taxes.
A deedholder (even one who holds only a percentage of the property) can take out mortgages and loans, tear down your house or sell the property.
A deed transfer may trigger a full payment on your mortgage."

Will you be added to the title as Joint tenant in entirety, Joint tenant with right of survivorship? There are several ways titles to be shared. Please find out what the implications of each are.

https://www.investopedia.com/articles/mortgages-real-estate/08/title-ownership-property.asp

There's a site called www.bogleheads.org that has great financial information and advice.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Yes to all the questions and thank you for the information.
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I don’t think BF mother can rent a reversed mortgaged home. If she moves out, the lender can call the mortgage.
Run far away from this whole set up. You are in a trance. It happens. Wake up.
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BurntCaregiver Feb 2022
You are correct. She can't rent out a home with a reversed mortgage.
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Your boyfriend's mother lives beyond her means.

Your boyfriend feels responsible to help his mother.

He sees two ways to do that: 1. Pay for her housing/living expenses or 2. Move her into his space.

He does not consider you a factor in this equation.

This is the definition of "being used".
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Beatty Feb 2022
Yep.
We have heard of the concept " A man is not a financial plan", right? MIL hasn't..

I've met older ladies who indeed had that plan. Husband died? They look to their son.
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RUN RUN RUN
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The answer to your boyfriend about his mother moving in has to be a very hard NO!
I don't know if it's too late for you to back out of buying property with him. I hope it's not.
This situation is not going to work out for the best even if his mother never gets to the point where she needs care. What will happen is you will be competing with mom for your man's attention and affection. I hate to lay it on you, but if he put you on the floor so mommy could have the bed on the vacation I'm sure you paid your share for, he will always choose mom.
If she should get dementia or need caregiving, that will fall on you by default for two reasons.

1) You're a woman and women always get the drudgery and grunt work that is elder caregiving settled on them like a yoke.

2) You're in a relationship with her son. Even if you don't get married she's still your de-facto MIL, and they will both think you owe her.

This is a woman who blew through 100 grand in a few years. What was the reason for that? Did she have no other income to live on? Was it very high medical expenses? Or does she just like to spend money and figured her son would take care of her after the money runs out?

Unless you can get it in legal writing that your man's mother will not be moving into your new home, back out of buying the place. If you can't back out then never forget that it's also your house and you will not allow her to move in. Then the ball is in your boyfriend's court. It sounds mighty likely to me after reading the comments, that your boyfriend will burn you when it comes time to put your name on the deed of the house.
You cannot allow this. The moment your money gets accepted is when your name goes on that house, understand?
You're not married to him and your reasons are your own for that. If you were you would have legal rights.
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Did you get your apology or did he walk out because he isn't going to budge about moving mommy in?

You are either totally insane or completely desperate to buy this house without being on the mortgage and title putting 35k down. Or should I say giving your BF 35k to buy a house because you aren't buying anything as the deal goes.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Actually he did apologize when he got home tonight. For not being honest about the fact that he did expect me to take “physical care” of his mother! He said he was offended that I didn’t offer to be her caregiver since I had done it for my dad years ago and he just assumed I’d offer because it’s his mom. I told him that with my back injury I had no way to do that and I assumed he knew that and was still telling me that he thought I had to do it anyway because he was going to move her in without asking. He also apologized for not asking me first and for going back on our agreement that I had paid for that extra room and it wasn’t his to give away without consulting me, end of story. He agreed his mom needs to take care of her own financial mistakes for now and sell her house or he won’t help her with her financial mess in the future. He said he realizes he was enabling her to keep misusing her budget by bailing her out and offering to take care of it for her without holding her accountable and letting her get herself out of this mess by selling her house, which she has refused to do out of pride he says. Apparently she feels it’s giving up to sell but she can’t keep it and still live on his dime. He is going to take out his 401k to match my down payment and add it to closing so we are exactly even Steven going forward and we each pay our own respective bills as we planned and half the mortgage each. We both agreed that If his mother needs to move in when she becomes disabled enough to need care it will only be temporary until she finds a faculty to help her and she will pay for her care out of her own pocket from
the sale of her house. To be clear, she still owns the house and owes 100k from the reverse mortgage but when it sells for around 250k she will have the remaining 150k and her SS and pension to live on, really no reason to live with us do to financial reasons like I said a while back. I told him I was sorry if I came of selfish about not wanting to take care of her physically but I have been used as a work horse before in my last marriage and I see the signs quickly when people know I’ll take something on if they don’t feel like or can’t do something and I just refuse to let myself be in that position again of doing too much while others watch and take it for granted and I may not have been as tactful as I should have been in explaining that it was the work and strain and stress of taking care of her I was refusing, not that I did t or would t want to help her if I could. Thank you to everyone who gave constructive advice about how to make my concerns known and how to look into the quit claim Mumbo jumbo. I’m meeting with the closing lady and a lawyer on Monday with my BF to see what we need to do and all the scenarios. Again, thanks and sorry I vented so much, it’s a stressful time in my life and I appreciate the time each one of you took to give me examples of life lessons you’ve learned. Much love to you all!
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Honest question, are you buying the home in hopes of getting married in the future? If not why buy the house with him?
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 2022
She's not really buying the house with him. Just giving 35k for him to buy the house, in his name only.
Believing that he will add her name through a quit claim deed, on a mortgaged house, sometimes down the road.
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Banks give away umbrellas when the sun shines but ask for them back when it starts raining.
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I couldn't bring myself to read all your question.
First, do not buy that house with your BF. Refuse to sign and get your money back.
Second, do not marry this guy. He's disrespectful to you by already telling you how it's going to be without any consideration to you.
Third, by buying the house and marrying this guy, his mom's care will come down to you cause he's already wrapped up in his head you know how to be a caregiver and you'll do it for him.
Fourth I'm seeing so many red flags in your situation, I'm not understanding why you don't.
Fifth, if you go through with this fiasco, you've only got yourself to blame.
Sixth, think of yourself first in this situation because it's obvious you're boyfriend doesn't give a hoot about you or you wouldn't be telling us your story.
Good luck, stay strong and DON'T GIVE IN!
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Quite honestly I think your boyfriend should not have to live with your grown children any more than you should have to live with his aged Mother. As I said, we live in a two flat and live in the upper, renting out the lower. When we did this 34 years ago we had a clear agreement that neither our own children (we each raised two) nor siblings, not even FRIENDS of one of the other of us would EVER be moved in downstairs. And that is a separate unit. It has worked out very well.
You are a grownup and you have all the facts. If you DON'T have the facts you can avail yourself of a real estate attorney, a trust and estate attorney or a general attorney to GET the facts. Your realtor is your guide. If they misinform you (get it in writing) there goes their license to practice. RealyReal says below that one of your updates said that you will not be on the deed. I don't think that's possible because I don't believe anyone is that clueless, but quite honestly I haven't followed ever piece of new information drop by drop. If that IS the case--if you put in 35,000 on a home you will not be buying, not be on the deed of--then add a good psychologist to the above experts. (Sorry, I get more blunt as the answers pile up, and was never one to believe we always have to be kind; some OPs need to be awakened and kind just doesn't do that; I am more a tough love type).
It sounds to me in general like there are really nebulous rules, little understanding, and lots of argument about lots of things going here. You have known this person since childhood, but there has been no agreement about marriage or really melding lives.
As I said, be certain you and your money are LEGALLY protected, stop arguing things, and when you don't like outcomes, sell that house. As long as you are on the deed (and NOT married) you can force a sale even if both your names are on the deed. I think in your case it is a very lucky thing you aren't married.
Sure wish you good luck. Any time I see a thread on Forum that goes over 60 answers I know we are either bickering with one another or in some very muddy waters, indeed. Seems a case of muddy waters here. We all live with different senses of "order" in our lives; that's fine.
Sounds like a lot of issues that may come home to roost, whether grown kids or aged Moms. The bright side to that is that you won't be bored! Good luck.
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 2022
Alva, she won't be able to force anything. The purchase is solely in his name with a promise to do a quit claim deed.

He has already started a deal breaker argument, I don't think he will sign anything. Then it is on her to pursue the refund legally.

He'll tell her mommy is moving in, like it or lump it. Of course, she won't be able to do anything because she has given him her nest egg.

I agree with adult children living in. Time to put on their big girl and boy undies. It, also, makes it really hard to say no to his family members without coming across as a tw...

Muddy waters indeed.
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Leaving other issues aside, why do you feel you are entitled to have your grown child live within your shared home but not his mother in a time of need? Seems like a double standard, you cannot have it both ways.

This will not work you are best going your separate ways using that 35k to get yourself a nice apartment.
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Everyone is jumping in on the relationship you have with your boyfriend and I understand why. Your post makes me think back to the huge mistakes I made in the years following my divorce. I survived, but after losing every penny I had. I worked myself out of it and ended up buying my own house and it was only then that I found a stable relationship because I was finally stable, financially and emotionally. It seems the only way we learn is by experiencing, not by being told by others.

As for your actual question, convincing your boyfriend that Mom should not move in, you are correct that he does not understand how difficult it will be. He seems to be acting from emotions and a sense of responsibility, not reality. You want him to learn from what you went through taking care of your dad, and you say you'd do it again for your dad. You won't do it for his mother. You are clear on that because you know what it involves. But you must understand that he feels the way about his mom that you felt for your dad. He does not understand because he has not experienced it yet.

What you can do is help him find another solution. She says she'd like to live closer to him. Believe that, instead of going off on how she won't see the grandkids, and get her to sell her house and find a care home for her close to you, or rather to her son, as you don't seem to have a good relationship with her. That way he can be involved in her care by visiting and making sure she has what she needs, manage her finances for her, but still work at his job. Try to make it clear to him that the two of you do not need to provide for his mom financially by sacrificing part of your home and all that you work hard for.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Thank you and that is exactly what I’m doing, trying to give alternatives solutions to the moms problems. But the problem is that my BF won’t force the issue about talking to his mom about the options because she doesn’t want to sell anything to pay for her expenses and he doesn’t want to tell her he won’t just give her extra money each month. He’d rather avoid the awkward conversation that may upset her and just say “hey come live here for free”, knowing ill be here to take care of her in the back of his mind. So his problems are all solved, easy peasy, for free, and his mom is happy.
I don’t know her any better than my grocery checker, we don’t have any type of relationship, good bad or otherwise, she is a stranger to me. I don’t dislike her at all, I just don not
want to end up caring for her 24/7 when she is permanently forced upon me without my consent because she is living in my home. He didn’t think ahead about what her living here would mean for ME because it’s his mommy and he thinks she will just take care of herself like she always has, but she’s 84 and from what I’ve seen and heard. she is on the verge of becoming very immobile and that is a HUGE problem since she will
be in a room downstairs, with me unable to help her even transfer from a chair to standing, much less up stairs, on and off the toilet, in and out of the shower, in and out of bed and so on. I can’t physically even help her stand up without hurting myself so I am terrified for her to live here, because when all is said and done, I would hurt myself to help her if she needed it, I can’t neglect her, it’s not in my character and he knows that and I’m scared he’s going to take advantage of that, or simply take it for granted that I’ll make it work out like I’m know n to do. I’m trying to protect myself, before it’s too late. She tripped beside me the second time I saw her and i instinctively grabbed her before she fell off the sidewalk on a short 10 foot walk and then I had to lay down with a muscle relaxer and ice pack on my back for the next two days in a room by myself while my BF and his kids and her went out and about the whole time and I had no help or food in the house because it was a rental for the week. I had to call my BF by dinner time the first day and ask if they were coming back for dinner and they were already eating out somewhere without a thought about the person who saved grandma from falling in the road the day before, she s fine and I’m just being a baby laying in bed all day is the vibe i got from them. My BF apologized profusely and said he forgot there wasn’t anything in the house to eat and he thought I’d be asleep and didn’t want to wake me but gone for 8 hours and nobody is checking on me, I’m not going to get any consideration for when I am left to care for his mom all
day when I can’t physically be helping her do anything. I know where I’ll be if she moves in, having surgery to fuse my discs in my lower back that I’ve tried for 30 years to avoid. And who is going to take care of me and my son then, not his 84 yo mother and not him because he can’t stay home to care for his mother, he certainly cant
do it for me, I understand someone has to make the money to pay for the house and everything, but that’s why I don’t want to injure myself for her care, then he’d have two disabled women in his hands. He just doesn’t plan ahead or think things through and it makes me come off as selfish because I say I’m not taking care of your mom because I know immediately all
that that entails having done it before and I have told him
what it did to my mental
and physical health and he still
just says “but im not asking you to take care of her, she doesn’t need help now and I’ll take care of her” but that is an empty promise because he can’t quit his job to do it 24/7, he can’t afford to take her bills on and pay for someone to come to the house and take care of her all day, and he will expect me to do it when the 💰is gone
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Your grown daughter shouldn't need any temporary housing from you. My God, she is grown, if it' that bad she can go to some government thing right? Just as the MIL might, right?

I can't imagine BF would want a grown daughter who can't get life together squatting with you. The fact that you even think she might ever is like him saying mom can stay temporarily. You are both being solutions to people who should have figured it out on their own but aren't.

Don't do the closing and find some other way to provide some place for your daughter. Better yet tell her she's a grownup now and her housing will no longer be your problem no matter what.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
My daughter just turned 20, has heart issues and is my responsibility and joy to care for, for her entire life! She has not asked for any assistance or money from me and supports herself completely on her own now. She is not the subject of this since I was a responsible adult and consulted my BF that living with me would mean that she may need to come back temporarily at some
point and i needed to always have a room available for that. I discussed and he agreed to this long before he ever even came to live with me in the house we rent now and he was completely on board. His mother has never been addressed as an issue or discussed as being a possibility of having to live with us at any point until
last week. And I was not asked if it was ok, the subject was not discussed and no compromise or consideration of my needs or feelings about it were heard.
As soon as he told me her situation I have offered to stop the sale of the house because I thought he needed to take care of her and her financial issues and not also have me and a mortgage on his plate. I said you should find a place to live with her that’s one floor and accessible to her needs and you could have some
one care for her while
youre at work. But he said he refuses to put our lives on hold for her, which is not a mommas boy attitude, but he won’t tell her that she needs to sell her home and pay for her own mistakes until
she can’t any longer (and then and only then will he start supporting her financially) because he doesn’t want to upset her or go against what she wants. (Which is where his mommas boy attitude comes back.) Somehow I’m the bad guy for even offering to give up the house so he can take care of her because I’m not wanting to have her in my home. But who wants a MIL living with them hemestly, not many. And especially when their care and financial issues are going to affect you and your health and prevent you from caring for your own obligations.
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I don't mean to be respectful but this screams "Love is Blind". I can't find in all the lengthy information you have provided any positives about the treatment you receive from your boyfriend. Taking the potential MIL out of the equation for a moment you state your boyfriend is lazy, issues with how he was raised (none of which sound positive) and general behavior to you. I mean if he makes you sleep on the floor while on vacation so his mother can have a nice bed I find that incredulous. Maybe there are positives but I didn't read any from you. I would hope you halt right now any binding commitments and if you want to continue the relationship find a therapist you both might see or at least find one for yourself. Good luck moving forward and hopefully not going backwards in ways that will be hard to extricate yourself from.
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For what it's worth, my half-sister hooked up with a guy and he's asked her to marry him. He lives with his mother who's 80-something, and has done so for decades since his divorce. He takes care of her, but she's not at the point where she needs a lot of help. Yet. My sister has a deadbeat daughter who's 38 and has lived with her for her entire life; no job, nothing; has a child out of wedlock who my sister supports TOO. So here's the terms of the marriage the two of them agreed upon:

They're buying a new, bigger house that they will ALL fit into. The happy couple, my sister's 38 y/o daughter & her daughter, the guy's mother, all of them. My sister told him she comes as a package deal with her DD & the granddaughter, and he told her that HE comes as a package deal with his mother. They both agreed to the dysfunctional arrangement, so to THEM it's not 'dysfunctional.' As much as I tried to convince my sister SHE will be the one to care for his mother when she gets sick or develops dementia, she doesn't care and/or won't listen.

Maybe such an arrangement is what you need OP; that the two of you come as a package deal with your daughter & his mother thrown in. Such a thing would not work for ME, but that's ME. Maybe it would work for YOU; where both of you make compromises for one another. What do you think?
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Im not asking him to care for or support my daughter, and I expect the same from with his mother. But he can’t take care of her so he’s thinking ill do it for him, that’s the difference. I’m taking care of my responsibility and he’s wanted to add his responsibility to my workload which isn’t fair and I can’t physically do so there is no reason for his mom to live in the house. If he was paying to have a room for her and care for her 24/7 that’s fair, but dumping her on my plate is not.
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As with all of these questionable posts, we get fed a little drip at a time until it is plain old water torture.
NOW we find out that the OP has a daughter who is disabled with a heart issue and that the OP will be "caring for her for life" and that this is what she wishes to do, and it is a "joy" to her.
So I imagine the boyfriend has as much a call on the home for his MOM, who is likely HIS joy and privilege to care for for the rest of HER life.
I have finally been gaslighted by this post, with its closing in on 100 responses, that I am personally out.
The sounds like ONE BIG HAPPY FAMILY to me, and I wish them godspeed and the very best in the future. Live happy. Stop arguing. And may loving trust guide the way.
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Totally wrong message you got from my post! sorry to have bothered you, my daughter has a stress problem due to her current living and personal circumstances. She needs no physical care of any type, I mean care as any mother does for their kid, living and supporting. And my BF will not be CARING for his mother, that is the whole point to my entire posts. He will be dumping his mom (his responsibility) off on me, not caring for her at all, he would be forcing her on me to deal
with. No one has the right to volunteer you for a life of servitude.
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Geez, if you want to comment please read everything first, no one has the right to make you take care of their own responsibilities. I am taking care of mine and all I’m saying is that I won’t take care of my BFs. He is not taking care of my daughter and I haven’t asked him to. I paid to have to the extra room for visiting or emergency if my daughter needed it or we had company. He didn’t want the extra space and wouldnt pay for the extra room because he said he didn’t need it but realized I did so I agreed to pay for it. Why would it then be ok for
him to say and not ask me, that he’s going to permanently move his mom into the room and make me take care of her 24/7. He doesn’t want to take care of her, physically, actually doing the work, he just wants to throw money or someone else at the problem and let them solve it for him, that’s what I mean by lazy. If he was going to be caring, physically, for his mom 24/7 I wouldn’t be upset and posting my concerns. He is not going to do that, hes admitted he can’t, he has to work, but he won’t admit that he will end up expecting me to do it FOR HIM. I know this will happen and I’m trying to find a way to help
his mom so she doesn’t need to live here, he’s not doing anything but sticking his head in the sand and waiting till there is no option, no where to place her, and then he knows ill
have no choice but to have her here and I’ll hurt myself trying to take care of her FOR HIM and I refuse to debilitate myself for HIS mom and his responsibility, at my expense! While my daughter if she needs help won’t get any because I’m taking care of HIS responsibilities. He doesn’t even want his mother here, he just doesn’t want to deal with her so he’s essentially passing her off to me and I don’t want her on my plate and that’s not him being a hero or good son in my opinion.
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Nokonoko Feb 2022
I am sorry but if your grown adult child who is in need of help can stay, I see no reason why the BF mother cannot in her time of need.

My guess he is the one paying the mortgage since it will be in his name and if so that is how he would be "caring" for your grown adult. You cannot expect him to understand why you will have an issue if he has to accept a grown adult child leaving within the shared home.
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OK so that it's about you being the caregiver, not about you just having her there. (There's a contradiction as you keep mentioning your daughter, whom this would be in conflict with, but i'll leave that for another post).

OK. Have you told your BF that you just WON'T be the caregiver? That she is basically an unpaid tenant that you won't be checking in on?
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NotaslavetoMIL Feb 2022
Yes the issue is the caregiving and that’s not my responsibility or job because he’s paying mortgage payments for the next two years till
we are-even with our money investments and what each is going to contribute. I have repeatedly told him I can’t abs won’t take care of his mom for him and he doesn’t understand that without me taking care of her she can’t live here, it makes no sense, if she can’t walk up stairs to get to the kitchen or front door she needs to be elsewhere. She will fall and be bed bound and then that will be another problem all together. Not to mention she even needs help getting up from
a chair at this point and I can’t help her do that either, she can’t sit in pee all day and not eat with access to the kitchen unless I’m home.
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refuse to close...take the financial hit.
Until you close, you are NOT completely committed to the situation. Although
there will be a cost associated with it.
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Red flags everywhere that you're busy turning green. You're asking for trouble. First of all, buying a house with your boyfriend - who has no commitment to you - is risky to begin with, and you being the only one with a financial investment makes it even more treacherous. You're trusting that your boyfriend will make the mortgage payments. Do you have that in writing? If things go south, you might need to sue him and you'll need a contract between the two of you signed and notarized. You need to protect your investment of $35,000. Or how about you buy the house without the boyfriend and live in it yourself and let him figure out where he and his mother are going to live. Or you could wait a couple of years until the boyfriend saves up $35,000 to match your investment and then buy a home with him. Honestly it sounds like you're going to be on the hook to support both the boyfriend and his mother. He's already shown you that his mother is first in the pecking order. You know good and well that your wishes will always come second to his mother. Is that the life you want to live? If I were you, I'd run. There isn't a man alive that's worth that much trouble. Peace.
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Feelingguilty22 Feb 2022
Exactly!!!
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Run. Do not put your money into a house with him. I really feel this is a bad move. And you will be the caretaker. Your health is important. I’ve got thyroid issues too that are getting worse because of my situation. You said your boyfriend is lazy and disrespectful? Please rethink your decision and run. I put up with too much for too long. I don’t see a good outcome in your situation. Good luck. (Hugs)
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cherokeegrrl54 Feb 2022
every Thing you just mentioned made my hair stand up and gave me chills…and not in a good way!!! I would take my $$$ and look for my own place There is something out there just right for you and your children. Please think wisely and not with your heart on this one….Liz
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Not, why did you ask this question?

Were you simply asking for validation that you're right and he's wrong?

Or does that still small voice in the back of your head tell you that this is a terrible idea?

Whatever you decide, I wish you luck.

I would take that down payment money and get myself training for a job that doesn't hurt my back.

I also wouldn't buy a home in middle age that wasn't on one level; buying and selling property involves transaction costs. I would be looking for a one level home, especially if I had a bad back.

Frankly, you sound like a couple of sqabbling teen-agers. I hope that you can find some peace and a less emotionally fraught relationship in the future.

Therapy can help.
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lealonnie1 Feb 2022
Good advice, about the 1 level home. After my divorce in 2003, I had a 10 y/o daughter living with me (my son had already moved out). After I sold the big house & we split the proceeds, I bought a patio home in a gated community on one level (with a lower level walk-out), the HOA covered the snow removal & lawn care, and had it built for the two of us. I was 46 years old at the time, but had the foresight to look ahead to when I was older and not wanting to climb stairs, shovel snow or worry about lawns. I still live here with my 2nd DH now. Smartest move I ever made next to filing for divorce! :)
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I’d get out of this one way deal that boyfriend will not contribute one dime & have his mother move in for you to take care of 24/7..get your 35K back immediately. He & his mother will become squatters. You changed your mind…GET YOUR $$$ back!!’ Or just buy house for yourself and your daughter…Don’t allow scammer & squatters bf & mother near it. Hugs 🤗
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I think if you were to reread what you posted you'd answer your own questions. BIG RED FLAGS! and you aren't even married. Don't give in. Boys grow up, become men and transfer their affection to their mates. No, it doesn't mean they stop loving their mothers but your boyfriend should be placing your needs above his mother's at this point. This would be a bad precedent setting scenario for a partnership that I'm assuming is important to you?

If your boyfriend won't listen to what you want now what does the future look like to you? Think about it.
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Nokonoko Feb 2022
And women should not use men as a plan for little of life's BS. Unless it goes both ways and clearly it does not in this case. Her life issues comes first while his take a backseat.
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I'm copying what the OP recently responded with an update so that everyone can find it (because it's buried way deep in this post). It's from about an hour ago:

"Actually he did apologize when he got home tonight. For not being honest about the fact that he did expect me to take “physical care” of his mother! He said he was offended that I didn’t offer to be her caregiver since I had done it for my dad years ago and he just assumed I’d offer because it’s his mom. I told him that with my back injury I had no way to do that and I assumed he knew that and was still telling me that he thought I had to do it anyway because he was going to move her in without asking. He also apologized for not asking me first and for going back on our agreement that I had paid for that extra room and it wasn’t his to give away without consulting me, end of story. He agreed his mom needs to take care of her own financial mistakes for now and sell her house or he won’t help her with her financial mess in the future. He said he realizes he was enabling her to keep misusing her budget by bailing her out and offering to take care of it for her without holding her accountable and letting her get herself out of this mess by selling her house, which she has refused to do out of pride he says. Apparently she feels it’s giving up to sell but she can’t keep it and still live on his dime. He is going to take out his 401k to match my down payment and add it to closing so we are exactly even Steven going forward and we each pay our own respective bills as we planned and half the mortgage each. We both agreed that If his mother needs to move in when she becomes disabled enough to need care it will only be temporary until she finds a faculty to help her and she will pay for her care out of her own pocket from
the sale of her house. To be clear, she still owns the house and owes 100k from the reverse mortgage but when it sells for around 250k she will have the remaining 150k and her SS and pension to live on, really no reason to live with us do to financial reasons like I said a while back. I told him I was sorry if I came of selfish about not wanting to take care of her physically but I have been used as a work horse before in my last marriage and I see the signs quickly when people know I’ll take something on if they don’t feel like or can’t do something and I just refuse to let myself be in that position again of doing too much while others watch and take it for granted and I may not have been as tactful as I should have been in explaining that it was the work and strain and stress of taking care of her I was refusing, not that I did t or would t want to help her if I could. Thank you to everyone who gave constructive advice about how to make my concerns known and how to look into the quit claim Mumbo jumbo. I’m meeting with the closing lady and a lawyer on Monday with my BF to see what we need to do and all the scenarios. Again, thanks and sorry I vented so much, it’s a stressful time in my life and I appreciate the time each one of you took to give me examples of life lessons you’ve learned. Much love to you all!"
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I agree 💯 and I’m going to put her on lists for facilities myself, here and there, so if he doesn’t get around to it I’ll be covered. In the small town where she lives, you can be on lists for over a year and still no openings will show up, I’m not playing around with this one so I’m starting now. They wont have that as an excuse
come time for her to need one. I put my dad on a couple of lists there and I never got a call about a vacancy until after he had already passed away a year later. I’m more proactive about getting her into a facility obviously, since I dont want her to ever have to live here and have to care for her. So if they get mad I did their job for them I don’t really care because if they don’t do
it, then they lied about handling it themselves like he said he would. Either way she won’t be living here unless it to wait a couple months for her spot to open up here. I had to make a compromise and that was it. Fingers crossed!
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AlvaDeer Feb 2022
If I had a penny for each time on forum we have heard "She's only moving in for a few months" I could retire. Wait! I AM retired!
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I hope you are this vigilant with your adult child.
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Not, I trust he knows that if he withdraws money from a 401k, he must pay penalties and income taxes on it. It may bump him into another tax bracket.

Borrowing against the 401k might be a better idea as it does not create a taxable event.

Good luck.
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PLEASE sit down with a clear head and reread what you posted. If your girl friend came to you for advice and told you the exact same story, what would you say to her?
When you marry him, how will things change? Are you counting on him to change? And why would you marry him? What's in it for you? For him? When you marry someone, you (willingly or not) marry his family.
You really need to make a PLUS and MINUS sheet. List the good things about this relationship on one side, and the negative things on the other side. Then weigh the two sides and make a more informed decision.
It sounds to me like you are in love with being in love. This too shall pass. You don't need him nearly as much as he needs you!
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Oh my goodness! DO NOT let her move in. She will cause nothing but division, resentment, bitterness and total fatigue. You both will become different people and age before your time. If I had the chance to make the decision to have my mother move in with me again I would say “no way!” I never imagined caregiving would be like this. I have been doing this now for almost 3 years and it doesn’t get easier. I want my life back. I absolutely hate it!!!!
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