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When I read your story, I was dumbfounded - how could you even begin to think of allowing him at his age and with all the problems go home and live alone. It is NOT possible - would you tell a two year old child to live alone and take care of itself? Of course not. You can't fix or change what is going on with your father. This is life. He cannot take care of himself and you can't do more than you have already done. This is YOUR time to live and take care of yourself and your own family. Do NOT give in to him. Let him rant and rave - it will only get worse but ignore it. If he upsets you too much when you see him, then send him cards or give him a quick phone call but the minute he goes on his tirade, immediately remove yourself. You will have more peace and maybe he will learn to control his venting. DO NO MORE - LEAVE HIM IN A FACILITY.
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You should certainly do nothing to help your father move to his own house and you should not beat yourself up over that decision. Did you say his grandson (your son or nephew?) is going to help your father move? Is that person going to be responsible for your father? Maybe your father just thinks that is going to happen, while his grandson is just stalling.
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sbgsteiff1 Sep 2019
It is my son and yes he is just putting him off, he will not move him but my dad thinks he will. Actually it really will take a long time for him to get that house ready for anyone to live in!!
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I can hear my dad in everything you posted. Great big HUGS!

What you are dealing with is loss of executive function, he doesn't know that he doesn't know. The beginning of dementia is so tricky, they seem okay, but then they have these hair brained ideas that they are the only ones that can't see what a bad idea it is. Oy vey!

I would recommend that you start letting the facility do what they are paid for. Of course he wants you, but that doesn't obligate you to do it. You get to decide what you will or won't do. He will never be happy in the way that he wants to be. Unfortunately those days are gone forever.

I would tell him that he will lose his insurance if he moves to a private house, therapeutic lie, maybe. I would also be very clear that you will not prop him up, no more rides, no help at all. Sometimes you have to get tough and back away so they can see just what their realities are. Dementia changes the ability to have a sensible conversation, you are now the adult in the relationship and that means you have to say no and stick to it, no matter where he goes with his insanity.

I would tell him that he needs to do everything he can to find contentment where he is and stop trying to get some place that is not safe for him, everytime he brings it up, no, not gonna happen, find a way to be content where you are. You may have to remove yourself from the situation for a while.

No guilt, he has had a good long life, he is safe, fed, cared for. What more could he really expect from life at this point?

Take care of you and enjoy your retirement some, you matter!
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you wrote..."He is not changing so I am the one who needs to handle it differently." There is your answer. If our help on this forum isn’t giving you the answers you want to hear then you should consider seeing a therapist on how to handle what you can. Say the old serenity prayer because it certainly applies in this case. Let him talk...complain, cuss etc. go "gray rock"on him. Also there’s a good book I highly recommend by Dr. Paul Chafetz. He is a psychologist who counsels adult children of parents like yours. It’s a thin book with excellent tips. It’s called "Loving Hard to Love Parents"..a handbook for children of difficult older parents". .....on Amazon
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Update after meeting with his doctor. He said there is nothing we can do because he is his own guardian and does not think we could get guardianship. My dad has a doctor’s appointment this month the doctor is going to tell him it would not be safe for him to live alone, put this in his chart, he does not recommend it and he will have to find a new doctor! He will not continue to treat him under these unsafe conditions and he will have to find a new doctor. Hoping this will work he normally will do whatever this doctor says but he is obviously not normal now, we will see, just taking one day at a time.
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JudinWA Sep 2019
You can speak to Lawyer specializing in Elder Law. Sounds like he needs a court-appointed guardian--which can be you.But he is past the mental capacity to give you POA, so this needs to be done in a court of law in most states. I would talk to a Lawyer ASAP. He is not safe to be at home, based on your description, and you do not have the ability to provide 24 hour care--no one single person really can.
Then the hardest part is to "Harden your heart" or do tough love. Not easy at all. He will be unhappy, you will be unhappy.
The only alternative is to have him at home with 24 hour caregiver if you have th financial resources to do so. Then he

will have 1:1 care. My general experience is that generally it is difficult to find consistent caregiver. Then you trade the headache of having him unhappy I AL with that of filling in whenever caregivers can't/don't show up and on and on, as an employer.

All the best to you as you figure this journey out.
Judy in Washington. Registered Nurse.
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sbgsteiff1;

Hopefully you made some headway at the appointment Wednesday - if not, MORE pressure on doc to get additional testing, with a specialist.

"When he sees the doctor he uses his walker, he stands up straighter and walks better while he is there, he cannot even stand without hanging on to something and cannot go very far before he has to sit down, always in a wheel chair or scooter when he is at home. He smiles and jokes with him acts very sharp! ... When he is at church he talks to people acts like he knows who they are instead of telling them he cannot see their faces, he is too proud to ask. He always asks me who that was, he is a really good faker!!"

This has a name... it is called 'show-timing' and is often a sign of early dementia. People in the early stages can often muster up enough to "seem" normal. Doctors and others who do not see them all the time or for long enough often cannot see through the charade.

"He thinks he can do everything himself, that’s the problem! He claims they do nothing for him, that is why he needs to live alone. ... he said he had people he could call, always has an answer! I am just leaving from now on, or turning the radio on if we are in the car, there is no reasoning with him."

Thinking he is fine, independent and the short term memory losses, also signs of early dementia. The silly test the doctor office does WON'T identify issues that he has. He needs an in-depth test, so they can really assess him. Our mother had plans to move to AL if/when the time came. HOWEVER, once dementia set in, that plan was out the window. She was ADAMANT she was fine, independent and could cook. None of that was true. She refused to move anywhere, especially AL. She refused to let aides in. None of her self images were true. She self-isolated and only ate frozen dinners and boxed crap. Complains about the place she is in now (MC.) Nothing to do here. Doesn't participate in many activities. Mostly reads magazines, newspaper and sales catalogs!

"...looking for advice on how to best handle him and keep my peace of mind."

Enough advice was given about setting boundaries, etc and you are attempting to distance yourself/ignore his complaints. IF possible, try redirection/refocusing - sometimes we can change their focus onto something else. It doesn't always work - that's when you give lame excuse and leave. It isn't easy, it's painful, but you'll have to do it. You can't reason or argue with dementia. In his mind, he is fine, just like he was years ago! Placate him and keep telling him the move is delayed, but is in the works (lie lie lie!!!) If he calls your son again, son needs to be advised on doing the same - promise the moon, but it will take more time gramps!

Since you have the POAs in place, I assume you handle all the finances, so even if he could contact movers, scooter companies, etc, how would he pay for it? If he has access to finances (bank accts, credit cards, etc.), take them away. If he can't provide payment, no one is going to move him or provide anything like a scooter. Given that it's suspect he has early signs of dementia, someone will have to ensure he doesn't walk out of the facility (or wheel.) Definitely fib about the rental place (actually it isn't lies, as the place needs major work, but tell him it's in the works, it will take time.) Blame delays on the town, say they require occupation permit, and blame it on the companies that provide materials for ramp, bath, etc. Even lie about the doctor saying he won't approve the move!

Hopefully doctor can be reasoned with (mom's previous doc was useless.) Dad should get extensive testing for dementia, as the memory losses and delusional ideas are signs of dementia. If the testing indicates this, you'll have to line up a move, but to MC rather than a home alone! Hopefully the facility he is in has MC care as well.

If doc is no help, you can find a specialist yourself. The nurse who came for the CNA company did the extensive test.
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Beatty Sep 2019
Great answers!
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It seems to me that your dad isn't going anywhere without help. He certainly cannot move himself into a rental property, so who's going to DO the moving FOR him? Nobody, that's who. It's time to stop 'hearing' your father's demands and start allowing common sense to prevail. A blind 95 year old man cannot live alone and that's THAT. Cut down your contact with him if all he does is complain. He's going to be unhappy wherever he goes, so you need to understand that. He's unhappy being in the condition he's in and would like to be young and healthy again, as we all would, but that's not possible, unfortunately. He has to deal the hand he's been dealt, and you have to move on with YOUR life, without pandering to his every need. Stop moving him. Just let him be, that's my suggestion.
Best of luck!
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"He always gets what he wants and he is stubborn". So, your dad is a controlling difficult man who gets what he wants through bullying others and making you feel guilty if you can't fulfill his unrealistic desires. You sound like an angel at his beck and call who feels guilty for not being able to make magic happen and fulfill all of his unrealistic expectations. Sorry for my harshness but your dad sounds like he's never had a reality check! Time to give him one!. Play along if you have to! He sounds like he doesn't want to live in reality - and it sounds like you feel guilty for not playing along with his unrealistic ideas. Sounds like you have tried to be honest and reasonable and he doesn't want to engage with reality.
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Hope this wasn't your Dad...

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-05-11/scooter-rider-monash-freeway-stopped-by-police/11104106
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sbgsteiff1 Sep 2019
Hi, no this was not my dad, he is fine. I waited for four days last week before I went to see him again. He said that I must really be mad at him so he better tear up that 30 day moving notice he has ready to give the AL! He got out of his chair, into his wheel chair and went over to his big magnifier and tore it up! Oh my, he thought he was moving in 30 days!! He just does not understand why I don’t think he can live alone, he decided that rental house would not be a very good location but he is going to keep looking for one in our town. He called my son later that day and told him to rent that house because it really upset me and he did not want me that upset. My son said, ‘No we can’t upset mom, I will get it ready to rent.’ So we have a reprieve for a while but it is ongoing, hoping his doctor will put a stop to it!
Someone commented that he could not hire someone to help him but he could, he has a big magnifier to read and write checks with, insists on paying his own bills. Sometimes he makes the checks out wrong, one time he lost his payment to the facility and I had to stop payment on that check and write another one! He will not let me take over, I have tried! I can understand that he is hanging on to this last bit of independence. I bought a journal and I started documenting everything off the wall he is saying and doing and my reactions and thoughts. I am hoping this will help me be more patient and could help with his care in the future. Thank you!
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