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Father refuses to take care of self and won't see a doctor about other medical needs. How can you reason or get them to agree with you?

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I had to wait until he ended up in the emergency room.

He became cooperative only because he almost died.

I think that a lot of us have had to wait for the ER visit before we could get our loved ones medical care.

Does he know that wounds can become septic and kill you? I would be using that explanation as graphically as I could to scare the crap out of him.
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Is anyone his medical PoA or legal guardian? If not, you may have to report him as a vulnerable adult to APS.
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Crose10 Jul 2020
We have a healthcare proxy, but that's it.
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You manipulate and trick them. Watch Teepa Snow videos on YouTube for pointers.
Do you live nearby? Can you go and be there when the nurse comes? She could show you how to do the wound care (pretend) while allowing the nurse to actually do it. After she’s been there a few times he will possibly not mind her being there. You just have to prove to be poor at wound care and need more help.

My dh aunt had an ant bite from gardening. It got infected. She told me about it. I lived two hours away. I asked is it red?
She said no. It was fine.(I was told later It was black).
She picked at it with an old needle. She got MRSA. She had to have surgery. She has never gotten back to where she was mentally prior to the surgery. She had to have wound care from HH. The least of her problems at that point.

Its harder with your dad I realize. I had to push PT on my dad (and he didn’t have dementia). A cute therapist really helped. Plus he was happy to be mobile once again. You just do what it takes.

Tell the nurse not to take no for an answer. If she’s an experienced nurse she will have skills that will help. He’s not the first who didn’t want to see her. But she knows it will be ok once she gets in. You don’t know that. She’s had experience you haven’t had.

You could tell your dad you need to know this is taken care of. That it’s for you. Sometimes that works.

Some things we don’t really know will help them. We hope it does but it’s just wishful thinking in many cases. Wound care is pretty important.
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To me it isn’t necessary for your father to agree about the dementia.
If he has a primary doctor it’s a good time to do a Telemed appointment. Do you FaceTime with friends or relatives with him? It’s little more than that.

As long as the doctor sees your dad on the phone, the doctor can get the information from you and make recommendations. Take his bp, his temp, his O2 and pulse with an oximeter and weigh him. Depending on the doctor you may not need all of that.

My husband had one appointment where it was just a phone call.

For me, It’s never been easier to get a senior in front of a doctor than it is right now.
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Crose10 Jul 2020
No he needs medical attention for a wound that is infected. He won't go to the VA or let a in home nurse cone for wound care. He wants to wsit two weeks. How can you make someone with dementia do something.
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