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If she owns property it should be sold and the proceeds go toward a facility that you feel will take good care of her. Your husband won't be the one doing the daily hands on care. Believe me it is not easy. To care for someone is hard both physically and mentally. It can rattle your self esteem to its core. Your attitude will affect your childrens lives and well being. I gaurantee you it would affect your marriage either way. Your husband obviously doesnt respect how you feel and doesnt understand what an undertaking this would be on you and on his children. Expecting you to take on a caregiver position on top of being a mother, wife, house keeper, taxi etc. He needs to get a clue.
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Your husband is being selfish and unreasonable.  You have your hands full!!  Check with your local agency on aging or check around to find someone who's knowledge in the caregiving field who could sit down with you and your husband and explain your options.  He would be more receptive to a third party - and he/she could, hopefully open his eyes to the overwhelming responsibilities of caregiving.  Caregiving, especially for someone with dementia, is a FULL TIME JOB and it sounds to me like you already have one.  Stand your ground.  I pray you can work this out.  There are a lot of quality nursing homes out there and she would get the specialized care she needs.
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Bless your heart, in my humble opinion your husband has not had a great upbringing or relationship with mom or dad and that’s why he’s giving ultimatums. Orrr... he’s wanted out for a long time. In-laws are not the same thing as parents. It depends on how close you were with his parents PLUS to make sure he/she are as safe as possible even if your ex doesn’t want to. That’s ALL that all of us want is the best care possible. If he is gone or out of their lives then that’s on him. You can only do your best (by these people).
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Hi, and welcome. Yes, stand your ground! That is her son's obligation to figure out. You shouldn't need to do that. You have your kids and yourself to take care of. If he would divorce you for that reason, don't let the door hit him in the ass when you tell him bye then! Sorry to be so aggressive, however that is how I feel. HE'S the one being terrible. !
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Your dilemma has sparked quite a response !!! And basic line seems to be:, call his bluff... He can move in with mom, and you stay put.

Whatever you do, do not let hubby and BIL bully you into taking care of their mother..
maybe not a good thing, is to show him this website. and do not tell him that it is you. Others are or have experienced the same issue. Does he really think it's a great idea for your marriage?

156 answers in just a few days.. You hit a core with a lot of people who feel very strongly about this. Hope you read all of these, absorb the information, and think about all of these responses!!
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That's quite unfair of him to say he wants a divorce just because you don't want his mom to mom in. Perhaps a counselor could help him he would be erring.
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I haven't read the other responses but this is a real sore topic with me. Not cause there has ever been any threat of this happening to me but simply cause I told my Hubs long before we were even living together that I would rather live on the street than live with my M I L. While I understand that blood is blood and she is his mother and all that. I just cannot tolerate this woman. She is like a poison to me. She is negative, controlling, judgemental, whiny, you name it. She doesn't even have any health issues yet. I can imagine how she'd be if she did. Hubs goes and spends three or so days a week with her and his Dad. If she or her husbands health start to fail he can go move in there for a while if he wants. But she'll never live with me.

And it hurts me to say this and to feel it. But some people are not meant to even be in the same room, let alone live together in the same house.
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You're not a bad person, and your husband may love his mother more than you do of course, but he really needs to be made aware of what's going to be involved in caregiving for his mother in you all's home and his major participation in it, physically not just financially. He seems to have gotten accustom to just going to work and coming home after all the work's been done, seeing how you have 4 children and the youngest is just out of the way starting school, he might be counting on that as free time that he expects you'll have to take on this task. Either way threating you with divorce sounds like there's going to be no love lost between the two of you, and you & your children lives don't matter to him unless he's been manipulating you the entire time of your marriage. It sounds like he doesn't know how to communicate his frustration about it. You just need to find ways and show him options to help with your MIL, thats if you can still care about somebody who would tell you that and they weren't joking!
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If he chooses to divorce you over your MIL, that will really backfire on him because then HE & his brother will have responsibility for their Mom, he will have lost having his children around, and you and all you do for him. Divorce is always difficult on children, regardless of their age (so it would be nice to avoid that if you want to preserve your marriage). Politly discuss with your husband the financial ramifications a divorce (the business, alamony, child support, dividing other joint properties like the house, etc). Emotional blackmail and bullying should never be rewwarded tho....so if it he takes the divorce route, then that is his choice. Cut the strings.
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Stand your ground. I think it's a bluff. Why would any human being on the planet say you have to take care of my mother on top of 4 children??? And hes not going to lift a finger? Hes too busy.
He will have to pay for his new house/apartment, her recovery, divorce proceedings, as well as child support and alimony. Let him. I dont think he will.
She will also need too much help after a stroke that 1 person cant possibly take care of. Do you have a Hoyer lift that can fit in your home? A spare bedroom or living room that is now housing her in a hospital bed with commode.
I think if you call the hospital and ask to speak with the social worker she/he will tell you what the outcome will be. Some people can recover from a stroke but it's a long uphill battle with a lot of OT/PT and speech therapy usually. I think they would say she is going to a rehab first. Then see what she is able to get back. So you have might a few months or weeks at the rehab. Depends on how bad her stroke and dementia are. You can get an accounting of this.

That is too much one one person with children and no help from her son. I dont think it will come to that. I think he is trying to scare you. I also think hes trying to scare you into doing what he wants. It's the easiest route. Dont let him bully you and the kids. He doesnt get to make that decision on your time. You do.
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No you are not a terrible person. Find a nursing facility. It's your home and your mental and physical health that your husband needs to care about.
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No you are not a terrible person, your husband is. Does he realise how much work 5 children will be? Your MIL is in the early stages of dementia and has just had a stroke so she will be a 77 year old child. Perhaps agree to her moving in if you get a job and husband gives up his, see how long he can cope then. You are entirely right, your husband and his brother need to step up.
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Nowhere does it mention the health of the FIL. Could possibly be that he is in decent health/mind for his age and needs to be dealing with this himself or working with his sons to make arrangements.
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I find it very odd that his first reaction is to divorce you... That is not a normal reaction...what does that have to do with finding care for his mother?  I think there may be many issues going on here.  How was the relationship with you and your husband prior to his mother needing care?  Your husband not getting home until 9 pm and you running around taking the kids to gymnastics and baseball and swim lessons, etc...  look a little closer into what might be going on there...  sometimes we are so busy, we don't see what is going on right under out noses....

As far as his mother goes, she is not your responsibility.  Your father in law needs to step up to the plate because his wife is sick and acting out of character.  Her two sons and her husband need to band together, have her evaluated by a doctor and help her or place her if that is what's needed.

I think you have some issues to deal with, but your mother in law isn't one of them.
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Just let him know you will take him for everything he has PLUS alimony, child support for 4 children and on top of that, HE will be left to take care of his mother alone. He might see the light and get her back with his dad or place her in a facility.
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ellenH6 Dec 2019
I can see why you would advice our new friend on this site to tell him off. I respectfully disagree with your advice as her husband has already proven himself to be unstable. I think it would be unwise for her to tip her hand. It seems to me that she would be better to get legal advice and put a plan into effect that she could started as needed.
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It sounds like she is a handful. It isn't fair to put this all on you. I think the others are right, see if you can get her husband to start taking responsibility, If not, go from there. As far as your husband threatening you, where did that come from??
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No, you are not a terrible person. You are attempting based on your experience with your mother in law setting boundaries for yourself and the children. I have to wonder if there are other issues in your marriage besides this one because it seems to me that threatening divorce is rather drastic. It seems to me that marriage counseling may be in order. Your husband and brother in law also need to speak with their mother's primary care physician in order to fully understand her medical condition as well as care needs. If your mother in law has funds looking for an assisted living near your home could be an option. As I stated previously, I think couples therapy is definitely in order for you both. Good luck.
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Keep us posted. We are worried for you. I'd get the social worker and discuss the options with your husband. He cant just throw a tantrum and expect the problem to be solved by you. He needs to think rationally and not reactively.
Even mother Teresa had an army of nuns to help her. And your supposed to work 24/7 7 days a week. You cant. Good luck.
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Your husband is either very selfish or letting his emotions get the best of him. Either way, he is wrong to try to put this burden on you. Stand you ground and get legal advice about divorce in the event that YOU decide you don't want to be married to this fool.
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No. You are not a terrible person. He would take care of his mother or hire someone to take care of her. Your hands are full with 4 kids. Give him the
divorce and get Child Support for the kids. It seems like you take care of the
kids and their needs. Find a caregiver to take care of her daily or put her in
a care facility /self living. You marriage and the vows, does not include your
mother. Stand your ground. Help him find somewhere for her to live. Get some
assistance from the programs offered for seniors who are sick with dementia.
Caregiving is a full time job. You have a full time job with your 4 kids. Someone
will go lacking and that appears to be you if you don't make the right decision.
If you didn't have the kids, then I would say, keep her. You can't do both. Too great of a responsibility. Men are selfish. They have no clue of all the things we
do just to maintain our own household with kids. You will have 5 kids and a lot
more responsibility with just his mom.
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Sounds like a man who is more emotionally connected to his mother than his wife. This is very hard to change.
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notrydoyoda Dec 2019
The only book on this that I know of is When He's Married to Mom: How to Help Mother-Enmeshed Men Open Their Hearts to True Love and Commitment. This can happen between daughter and mother as well, but no one has written about that yet.

To go more deeply into this concerning moms and sons as well as daughters and dads read, Silently Seduced: When Parents Make Their Children Partners-Understanding Covert (emotional) Incest.

Many marriages are destroyed of a parent making a child their emotional partner.
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Tracij29 We would all love to hear how you are doing and if the 99.9% support you have received has helped you
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Edit - Perhaps a counselor could help him *SEE* that he would be erring. Not to mention it'll be on him to provide the care!
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Has poster provided any updates at all to any of the 175 answers to date???
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Isthisrealyreal Dec 2019
Not a one.
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No time to read all the responses, so pardon if mine repeats any other suggestions. First off, NO, you are not a terrible person. You TRIED it once and now understand what it entails, and realize this isn't workable. Clearly hubby has NOT done it, has no clue and is behaving stupidly.

If this is the only option he has, he is in for a RUDE awakening. Not only will he lose his family and business partner, but he will have to take care of her himself. If BIL care is indicative of hubby's care, poor MIL (and FIL if he also needs help!) She will NOT get the care she needs.

Perhaps you could suggest HE care for his mom for ONE DAY or perhaps a week (could you take a mini-vaca with the kids, go visit your own family?) Once he gets a good taste, he might then realize this isn't doable. He also needs some education about dementia. As it progresses, and it WILL, does he want his house damaged by pee and poo from his mother? Any other damage she might inflict, because you can't possibly watch her 24 hours/day? There are times you need to tend to other things, use the bathroom, etc and like with a toddler, it can take seconds for a disaster to happen!

Caring for someone with dementia (and any other issues that make it more difficult!) isn't easy, and is nearly impossible to manage for someone who is working, caring for 4 children (regardless of age, unless emancipated) and a house. Hubby needs a head slap along with information about dementia and what it takes to care for someone with this.
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Jasmina Dec 2019
Has a head slap. That's so funny, and true!
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I agree stand your ground don't take on a cargiving job it's not easy u will loose your self give him a divorce like everyone said take half of everything and stay in your home he can go with mom see how fast he would understand call his bluff bc that's what it is he wants to see if u would cave and say ok I will take care of her No tell him NO good luck
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Now everyone wants to know how your dilemma has been unfolding, if at all.. Yes, and it is close to the Holidays.. Perhaps this would be a good time for hubby & BIL to cater to their mother and actually take care of her for awhile. What business do you have? Perhaps Mom can help out in the packaging department or answering phones, or taking notes. Give her a job with hubby... That may help. Perhaps she can do simple accounting, or contacting customers or vendors.
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Did the OP ever respond back to this post? A ton of replies!
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notrydoyoda Dec 2019
No. I think now that she was a drive by.
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I believe I answered this before, but I’ll say again, anyway: I hope you’re still standing your ground, Traci! Do not take that on, unless you want to end up in ER...Hugs 🤗
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Stand your ground. Your husband is emotionally manipulating you. If you allow Mother-in-law in you will have her, the kids and your pain-in-the-rear selfish husband to take care of. Good luck. You're going to need it.
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