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As said you need to check your township regulations. An RV is not a trailer. It's not permanent. Like said, there are hook ups. Is there an RV park nearby they can live year round? You may luck out and it won't be possible.
There was a post on here a few days ago. Same type of thing. Although I cannot remember if it was an RV. Turns out a sibling was getting them to sell. The 'land owner' had no say in the matter as nothing had been signed. No rent paid (even a pepper corn?)
Please also look at all the legal side of things. You may have to become their carer. Much as you love them now, it would be nice if it could stay that way.
You might want to project ahead a few years. What if health and mobility issues make it difficult or impossible to live in the RV. The next step could well be to move them into the house with you until they find another option.....
In addition to reiterating the various issues raised by others, I'd like to raise the issue of using the same water system, if you're not in a rural area. If in a city or township, they might be required to pay to tap into the city or township water system, and pay, themselves, for the connections.
There could be building and code violations that would incurred not just for parking on your property, but also for living there.
I'd address these issues before anything else. Governmental agencies aren't very flexible when it comes to additional housing units on an individual property.
In addition, the area may be zoned for single use residence. Be absolutely sure to check zoning ordinances.
Things to think about. If either of them develop mobility issues an RV is not going to be suitable, no getting away from the stairs and no room for a walker or wheelchair. Depending on where you live the climate may not be appropriate for year round RV life. Are you prepared to put in a pad, water line, sewer connection and electric to the RV. What about a roof to cover it? Older RV's eventually leak.
Do you have an outlet of the correct amperage they can plug into? Our old RV was 30/110 (not the same as the 30/220 that dryers plus into) larger ones are 50. We had to replace our electric panel in order to run a line to our RV. Including upgrading the service from the pole to the house. It was part of a larger renovation, but expensive. Or would they pay for service from the pole to the site?
It sounds like a great idea, but, I agree about all the stuff you have to consider. The devil is in the details. And maybe, I've just been reading too many comments on this site, but, things start out fine, but, then......oh well.....it's not as they expected. NOW, they regret doing it, because they are stressed, confused, resentful, overworked, etc. No good deed.......ya know.
Even though, I have great parents, they are not the way they used to be. For some reason, senior parents can impact you in a way that you didn't expect. I grew up with the idea that family is family. You always support, care for, take in, welcome them without hesitation and I do agree with that, but, now that I'm older and I see how things can turn out.....I'm more cautious.
Sing, I don’t have a good feeling about this and it sounds like you don’t either. Lots of good points raised by others. Can you get out of this gracefully?
SingSong, with an RV wouldn't that require hooking up an electrical cord from your house to their RV? What about water? Propane? Will they pay for the higher electric use?
If you live in the county, will the "well" handle the extra people? What about the septic system, usually there is a limit of the number of people a septic is built for?
I realize when one says "oh, I will just park the RV here and we will live in it" it can sound so very simple. There are logistic stuff involved. Oh, what about homeowner's insurance or liability insurance?
Or will the folks slowly start moving into your house? Be prepared.
have a very open discussion before you decide anything. how much to they expect to see you? As they age what are they expecting of you? You might be surprised and find that their expectations vs your willingness are way off. or not. but it is very hard to "try" and then back out.
Yes, get along great and want to continue lol. They were traveling until needing to slow down due to some health issues. Space is no poblem. Just don’t want to be sorry if it shouldn’t work out. I’ve seen it go both ways.
Do you get along well with your in laws? Is your property large or small? Do you in laws in good health or do they require looking after or medical care?
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APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
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We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
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APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Please also look at all the legal side of things. You may have to become their carer. Much as you love them now, it would be nice if it could stay that way.
There could be building and code violations that would incurred not just for parking on your property, but also for living there.
I'd address these issues before anything else. Governmental agencies aren't very flexible when it comes to additional housing units on an individual property.
In addition, the area may be zoned for single use residence. Be absolutely sure to check zoning ordinances.
Do you have an outlet of the correct amperage they can plug into? Our old RV was 30/110 (not the same as the 30/220 that dryers plus into) larger ones are 50. We had to replace our electric panel in order to run a line to our RV. Including upgrading the service from the pole to the house. It was part of a larger renovation, but expensive. Or would they pay for service from the pole to the site?
Is it allowed in your community?
Even though, I have great parents, they are not the way they used to be. For some reason, senior parents can impact you in a way that you didn't expect. I grew up with the idea that family is family. You always support, care for, take in, welcome them without hesitation and I do agree with that, but, now that I'm older and I see how things can turn out.....I'm more cautious.
Please post what happens.
If you live in the county, will the "well" handle the extra people? What about the septic system, usually there is a limit of the number of people a septic is built for?
I realize when one says "oh, I will just park the RV here and we will live in it" it can sound so very simple. There are logistic stuff involved. Oh, what about homeowner's insurance or liability insurance?
Or will the folks slowly start moving into your house? Be prepared.