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My mom is 72. She has been having financial issues for many years. Lived with my family and I (husband and two boys) a while back in her 60s and it was very difficult. Then, she was able to move into an apartment for a while. Later, she lost her job (close to retirement anyway) and couldn’t afford anything on her own. We had bought a much larger home in the meantime. No MIL suite, however, There were very little options for us aside from her moving in with my husband and two kids again. (There was a 3-year wait list for low-income housing.) So, she’s here and pays us rent monthly (a good amount I must add, but way less than she’d pay in an apartment.) However, some things are off-putting and one of the things was she came into our home with the rule that she refused to cook. I’m a homeschooling mom and my husband works a corporate job. We are both extremely busy, while my mom, now retired (because of us providing a home for her), does nothing all day. We included her in our dinners and finally got her to cook or at least provide dinners one day a week, but this setup has always bothered me. I do believe there are some narcissistic tendencies there and this is part of it. Her reasoning is that she hates cooking and all these years of cooking and she’s done with it, that I have to cook for my family anyway, so …? I feel it’s selfish and terribly unfair. She said she’ll clean after dinner (as we all pitch in on that as well.) Does this sound like narcissism to you? Just seeking validation because any time I bring it up, she gets annoyed and can’t have a normal conversation. It’s like talking to a 2-year-old. I’m at the point of saying no more dinners with us. She’ll have to provide for herself.

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I’m 80 years old and don’t like to cook anymore after years of cooking. I think it’s something we all feel as we age. However, I do manage to fix my own meals, and eat when I’m hungry. Up until three and a half, four years ago, my mother lived with me, paid me some rent, and she never had to cook, or clean, or do her laundry, unless she wanted to for something to do, and the most she would do, was the dusting in her room. Granted we had some moments, but I was so fortunate to have my mother live with me for sixteen years before she started showing signs of decline. Mom was placed in a home facility where she fell and fractured her femur. After surgery, recovery was at a rehab facility that also had long term care, and that is where she died at the age of 98, in March of 2020.
She’s your mother, not your cook, or maid.
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Chipmonk57 Apr 2022
BRAVO!
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So, you wera homeschooling mom with a corporate job husband only since your mom moved in and you had no time to feed your family then?

Of course not.

Mom's a renter, not a servant. She told you she doesn't want to cook, and that's that. She said she'd clean up, so let her. She's not one of your children, so stop treating her like one.

And no, that's not narcissistic behavior by any stretch of the imagination. Jeez, that word gets tossed around here a lot.
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lealonnie1 Apr 2022
The 'only good advice' OP says she's gotten so far is that which advised "I would separate out your lives in the home, have your own meals and privacy, and that's it."
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Peace,

You clearly don't want your mother living with you. I totally understand that and it's totally fine. She shouldn't be living with you if it isn't working out.
You ask if your mother sounds narcissistic. Based on what you're saying, it would seem like you're the one with narcissistic tendencies. Your mother was honest and up front with you about not cooking. You moved her in anyway. She pays you rent and she also helps with the cleaning up. What more do you expect from a old woman?
Get her on one of those waiting lists for low-income housing. Get her on some for senior housing too. They base the rent on a person's income too. I think your wait will be less than three years if you put her name in enough of these places.
Your mother will be better off in a senior community as well.
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Becky04489 Apr 2022
Good answer. The OP has the narcissistic bent. Most HUD housing projects would move Mom up on the wait lists if the daughter tells them she wants her mother out of the house.
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I wrote a lot in my original post but cut most of it out because it was purely speculation and based on how I would feel if I were in a similar situation. You haven't given us much to go on besides the clash over cooking, if she is sitting on her backside all day, refuses to pitch in on any household tasks and is expecting to be waited on hand and foot she may not be a narcissist but she is toxic. If it's just that the two of you are constantly clashing over what are basically personality and lifestyle choices then you may be able to come to some kind of rapprochement.
Have you tried teamwork rather than assigning tasks or expecting her to take charge? - mom, would you help with peeling the potatoes so they are ready for later - mom, I've got something marinating in the fridge would you mind putting it in the oven at 4:00 - I've already sorted the laundry, it would be a big help if you could run a couple of loads for me this afternoon... that kind of thing.
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I am capable of cooking, but I don't like to. I'd choose to wash up any day too!

I also never want to mess with my daughter's kitchen.
I'd never cook for my SILs as I'd be corrected at every turn.
Or my MIL, as I know (as your Mother may well) that each Castle has only One Queen.

Now short term 'guests' in your home may cook a meal to 'pay' for their stay. But Mother is a 'tennant' & pays her rent.

Her boundary is cooking. She said it from the start.
For the sake of your relationship, I'd honor her boundary.

I've found when people continue to try to knock down my boundaries on clearly stated issues, I put up greater walls. Over time, if they persist, the walls thicken & degrade the relationship.

Not all family can live together. I'd keep looking out for the next abode for Mom.
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This is what happens when we don't get the full story we go with what you have told us.

With your history with Mom, you should never have taken her in. And feel lucky that she pays you rent. There are those who can't get a penny out of a parent living with them.

So the cooking really isn't all of it. In my area there are HUD apts. They go by income and require 30% of monthly income. Heat is included and electric is only a certain amt a month. There are resources out there Mom could take advantage of. Get her name into these low income apts. Its usually the "good hearted" child the parent is sure will do for them and will take advantage of the child.

You set boundries for you and you stick by them. Moms boundary is she won't cook. But she will clean up. I make a mess in the kitchen. Would love for someone to clean up. Everyone can walk their dishes to the sink area. Push in their chairs and leave. Let Mom clean up and this includes sweeping the floor. Leftovers put away. Dishes put away after washing. Mom should be cleaning her room. Doing her laundry. If she has no car, using a Senior bus service to get to appts and shop.
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I am 69 and living with chronic Hodgkin's lymphoma, diabetes, IBS and thyroid disease. I live alone. I stopped cooking about a year ago because it just wore me out. I got a cheap kitchen stool, which helped some. I now buy good deli sliced turkey and ultra thin bread. Balanced with fruit and fresh vegetables, that's breakfast lunch and dinner. Fast, nutritious and easy cleanup.
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Assisted Living sounds preferable to living in a home with someone who wants revenge on a dementia patient. Geesh, if we don't die young, we are in jeopardy of having to live with people who resent us for the time and money we need to endure the last chapter of our life. This forum has taught me to take care of ME and not worry about leaving any sort of inheritance..............I will place myself before ever becoming dependent on anyone else, especially family.
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PeggySue2020 Apr 2022
Oh, and what happens to childless or children ppl or ppl whose children died or split the country?

Good for you for not leaving any inheritance like the ops literally worthless mom, and not expecting to be taken in.
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This question isn't really about cooking. It's about taking her Mom into her home that she doesn't want. The OP just wants validation from the "peanut gallery" that she's the big hearted daughter. The OP needs to get her Mom signed up for housing assistance and moved out. Or maybe she hasn't done that because of the good rent that her Mom pays.
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Take a good long look at YOUR kids and remember this, "What goes around, comes around."
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PeggySue2020 Apr 2022
Unnecessary. She made a mistake in taking mom on that many of us did. Cooking is petty, but she doesn’t want the mom in her house no matter how perfect she acts.
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