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I already know that many people who have loved ones pass away in hospice think that it was a God send. Namely because the person was probably already actively dying prior to hospice involvement. This post will not resonate with you. This post is for the droves of families, like mine, who were rushed into choosing hospice for their loved ones OR falsely manipulated into thinking it was necessary because your loved one had a terminal illness.


The thing is that my mother, although having a terminal illness, was laughing, dancing, talking, eating and very alert on the day I signed for palliative care after they pressed me to death about it. I felt I had no choice. They assured me that they'd make her comfortable and whatever she wants she gets. It's all about her desires during this transitioning period.


I took a video of my mother dancing and smiling only hours before she fell almost into a comatose state. They told me that ONLY AS NEEDED they'd give her morphine and Ativan. They told me because her body will start to produce great pain as the process progresses. So I agreed. What I didn't know is that after that initial permission given by me, they were doping her up at least 3x a day and swearing it was the lowest dosage.


Even after I demanded they stop the morphine and they did their best to convince me that any little movement was a sign of distress, my mother kept getting worse. Finally after thinking that maybe I am tripping, I decided to look this subject up. To my dismay I found droves of stories identical in almost every way to mine.


I took my mom off of hospice and she's on life support in the ICU. We (the people with this experience) are not all just in denial or lacking understanding or simply grieving. We all have the exact same story. Loved one very responsive though terminal. Could have lasted a good while longer. Exact same two drugs given (morphine and Ativan), promise of lowest dosage and suddenly our loved one completely vegetated overnight. Nurses trying to convince you that any movement at all was pain and they needed more drugs. Dehydrated because the ability to request water was taken away but they sure can swallow the liquid meds.


Who thinks they should be investigated and is willing to do whatever it takes to get them at least investigated? Hospice in general. The practice.

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My mother was walking around and talking, laughing and alert the day before we put her in hospice and she passed 3 days later. She has advance stages of copd. It was just her time
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Firstly I hope you'll accept my condolences in your grief over this loss.
Sadly I think you may possibly fall into the group of family members who has a difficult time accepting the inevitability of death. I very much doubt your story that a Hospice entered your Mom's home and dosed a singing, dancing, laughing woman to her death, and that is really what you are suggesting.
None of us were present during the time your particular hospice cared for your Mom. I suggest you take your concerns to their own counselors. I think you may also want to consider the counseling of a Certified Licensed Social Worker in private practice who can help you work through the grief of this hard loss. It is known that many will stay in a state of trying to blame others for death as a way to prevent their having to move into and embrace the grief of final loss.
I thank all the powers that be for Hospice. As an RN my career I saw such suffering before we got Hospice here from across the pond, where it began. Such awful needless screaming suffering as you cannot imagine, and I assure you, had you witnessed that for your Mom the images would never leave you. It saddens me that I see Hospice now moving into the for-profit military industrial complex, offer less individualized care than once they did. Still I thank goodness they are there for us.
I wish you peace in your grieving and I hope you will seek help for yourself as you have had a great loss and you deserve help.
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Hospice is where she needed to be. You’re trying to blame someone for your mother’s situation but your accusations indicate little understanding of what dying and hospice are all about. I hope you find peace.
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Wow..I spent 27 yrs in long term care and watched hospice care the whole time. I saw nothing but compassion and painless death. I allowed my Dad into hospice care and it was a beautiful experience. I have also seen patients upright and great one day and on their death bed the next day..There also are some people who experience a brief surge in energy in the hours or days before death. This may last from a few minutes to several hours. During this time, your loved one may talk more, be interested in engaging in conversation, or interested in eating or drinking {google tis please}. My dad woke from his coma , wide awake for about 2 hrs…then died in my arms. Counseling may be helpful for you..
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Hospice is not meant to kill anyone. Hospice nurses aren’t murderers.
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FreeMe, if you feel strongly that Hospice is "purposely killing the elderly", have you contacted the police? If not, why not?

Once the patient passes, Hospice is no longer being paid. Does it make sense that Hospice would want to accelerate that patient's passing?

There are cases where a patient graduated from Hospice and continued to live. Hospice takes one off of all their pills except for pills that provide comfort. Some times patients going into Hospice were taking way too many different pills, and once getting off many of the meds started to feel better.

I know when my days are numbered, I would be very angry if my family decided not to bring in Hospice to help me be more comfortable.
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I think you're in the anger/blame part of the grieving process.

Your mother was not intenionally killed, especially considering shes still alive...
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The fact that you don't understand end-of-life processes nor how hospice works does not mean they're killing people.

Hospice doesn't get paid if their patients are dead. That alone should resonate enough for you to understand that they aren't killing people ahead of their time.

I'm appalled that you would put a dying woman on life support. THAT is the cruelty, not hospice.

I'm going to guess you didn't read any of the information the hospice company provided when your mother was admitted to hospice. You didn't know that a doctor has to make the recommendation for hospice and hospice has to ACCEPT that diagnosis in order to accept the patient. It isn't all in your court, except to give the OK to do the humane thing and focus on making your LO comfortable and focus on the quality of their life and not the quantity. That's where you failed your mother.

I guess hospice will now have to screen family members for suitability for hospice, not just the patients. I can't imagine being a hospice nurse and having to fight with a family member who doesn't have the slightest idea what's going on and relies on internet stories for their information. Thank goodness my family knows and understands how hospice works and would never make me suffer on life support.
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Sophia54 Aug 2022
Please see my post above. Sometimes patients are sent to hospice for the wrong reasons. Some situations are more complicated than simply "doctors know best." And when the wrong hospice agency gets those patients, it can truly worsen a situation that did not have to be that bad, that quickly.

The healthcare system truly failed my sister at every turn, including when the doctors sent her to hospice. The very few people who actually treated her decently were those affiliated with the second hospice agency we chose--unfortunately, she needed that level of care and treatment far sooner to truly help her make a meaningful recovery from the initial injury (brain damage due to a blood sugar drop in her sleep). Once she woke up from her coma, she was misdiagnosed, dismissed, and often completely ignored.

As her guardian, I could find very few healthcare providers who cared to make any effort on her behalf at all. The fact that she is in hospice now is largely the result of a culmination of many doctors writing her off because of her age. She was in her 70s--why should they bother trying to save someone of that age? She's old, so it makes sense to just let her go peacefully. That is the attitude we got--ageism at its finest. The original poster might have gotten a very similar response.
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She was recommended to hospice because she was, in no uncertain terms, dying. Perhaps not in the active dying stages, but she likely would have no longer than six months. When a patient is terminal, it may be that one day the patient is able to function rather well, and then the next is literally at death's door. You are grieving for your loved one and the life you wished she could have, but hospice does not make it a practice of "killing" people who are dying. You may find "droves" of stories like yours because many, many, many people either cannot or will not or don't understand end-of-life care.
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FreeMe Oct 2022
Those were HER wishes to fight however I had to. That's your answer. I was and still am honoring her wishes. To fight until there's literally nothing left to keep her here.
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Sorry, but death is a part of life, especially when you're elderly. I know your brain is trying to grapple with this painful reality, and placing the blame on someone else makes you feel more in-control (or like your mom could've gone on to live indefinitely if it weren't for hospice), but in the end, it'll just prolong your pain and make things worse.

Please get counseling for your grief and pain. Please.
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