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Sunnygirl, the ALF just says he must move to a skilled nursing home because he is falling from his dementia and that it is just going to get worse. They don't say anything about helping to find him anywhere to transfer. My husband and I have been trying to help find him somewhere closer to home.
Yes, you are so right. We do need to insist on these facilities tell us why they are not accepting him
If there is a concern with these facilities accepting him, how can we get around this? If there is some concern, can't they accommodate his needs?
Thank you for your advice. I think you know exactly what you are talking about.
Fleqflyer, sorry I am just seeing your post. When I contact skilled nursing homes, I always make sure they have open beds, care for dementia patients and insurance needs. Then I proceed with the referral. The facilities have not given us any reasons for denying him accept "we can not take him here".
We finally did have one facility to tell us he may not would be safe there and that his care exceeded what they could give him. They are a skilled nursing home, with a secure locked down memory care unit, so not exactly sure why they say this.
As I recall, you posted before about the nursing homes denying your family member admittance. If all nursing homes and all Memory Care facilities are refusing to admit him, then, I'd insist on them providing a reason.
Have you reviewed his medical records? Is there a behavioral problem that causes the facilities concern? The facility that is currently in, can't just put him on the street. What do they say about finding a place for him to be transferred? What do they say as the reason they are not allowing him to stay?
Does he need to be in a hospital or Hospice center? Without knowing more about him as a patient, I have no idea what to suggest.
Does he have the funds to pay or is he on Medicaid or some state supported plan that coveres AL or Memory Care for the disabled? The facility has to be one that accepts that kind of payments.
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II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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Yes, you are so right. We do need to insist on these facilities tell us why they are not accepting him
If there is a concern with these facilities accepting him, how can we get around this? If there is some concern, can't they accommodate his needs?
Thank you for your advice. I think you know exactly what you are talking about.
We finally did have one facility to tell us he may not would be safe there and that his care exceeded what they could give him. They are a skilled nursing home, with a secure locked down memory care unit, so not exactly sure why they say this.
We will call them and ask for more explanation.
Have you reviewed his medical records? Is there a behavioral problem that causes the facilities concern? The facility that is currently in, can't just put him on the street. What do they say about finding a place for him to be transferred? What do they say as the reason they are not allowing him to stay?
Does he need to be in a hospital or Hospice center? Without knowing more about him as a patient, I have no idea what to suggest.
Does he have the funds to pay or is he on Medicaid or some state supported plan that coveres AL or Memory Care for the disabled? The facility has to be one that accepts that kind of payments.