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While staying in my house, it suddenly gets treated like an Airbnb with their kids and grandkids sleeping over. Am I justified in being a little annoyed and how would you handle this?
If you don’t mind, I have a few questions that would make a difference in my reply.
What’s the relationship of these family members to you and the elder being cared for? Just trying to establish their level of “obligation” - for a lack of a better word - to the elder.
How old are the family members that are coming to caregiver? What’s their own home situation - as in - little kids they have to bring along, empty nesters, etc. Are their kids and grandkids living with them, in other words? If not, just how far is everyone coming for these sleepovers?
How far are they - the caregivers - traveling to get there? How many days are they generally staying? How frequently do these respite breaks happen?
And, lastly - do they need the money?
p.s. Just curious - what’s the attraction in your area that the relatives are interested in? i.e. - do you live near Disneyland, the ocean, Dollywood..?
A sibling comes to relieve me. I look after both parents in their home late eighties early nineties. I live fairly close. My concern is when the sibling comes from out of town to stay in my home that suddenly my home gets treated as an Airbnb with that siblings children and grandchildren coming from out of town and having a reunion in my home. Money is certainly not an issue for them.
You can always ask that the house be tidied up before you get home. You can't really expect someone to come from out of town and not see their local family, doesn't even make sense.
If they are doing this for free, you should really consider if this is worth a fight.
How does your mom do with all the company? That would be my only concern.
I wouldn't worry about covid, we are all exposed and quite frankly we have to die some time of something, might as well be happy in the mean while.
We are not talking about local family but family coming from out of town to use the place as a free hotel. And the person coming to relieve me gets paid handsomely for this.
Well, you have to decide what's more important to you... a respite from caregiving or a neat house. Was anything damaged by the kids? If you want both a respite and a neat house when you return you've got to lay down some rules. You can be annoyed but you didn't give them any ground rules.
That being said, it's good you were able to get away. We all need a break. But if you're going to be concerned about the shape of the house when you get back, the time away won't do you much good.
Not concerned about the shape of the house. That isn’t the issue. But I will be ready next time with ground rules. Having extra ppl coming to stay for their own little family reunion is the issue. Then there us less time to spend with the elderly. I come home from my respite to stuff that has not been done.
You definitely are justified, not only in being annoyed, but in concern for your mother, yourself, and even for the relative visitors. I'm assuming that they don't mask while they're in your home?
I can't think of a clever way to tell them you've made other arrangements (after you have) b/c of concern for the health of everyone involved, including them, but I'd use the pandemic and the need for extreme caution to let them think you're concerned about their health.
You don't want to offend the person who was asked, and she/he may be resentful since she/he is coming and presumably staying for free. So create an excuse that focuses on concern for her/him and the kids.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
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What’s the relationship of these family members to you and the elder being cared for? Just trying to establish their level of “obligation” - for a lack of a better word - to the elder.
How old are the family members that are coming to caregiver? What’s their own home situation - as in - little kids they have to bring along, empty nesters, etc. Are their kids and grandkids living with them, in other words? If not, just how far is everyone coming for these sleepovers?
How far are they - the caregivers - traveling to get there? How many days are they generally staying? How frequently do these respite breaks happen?
And, lastly - do they need the money?
p.s. Just curious - what’s the attraction
in your area that the relatives are interested in? i.e. - do you live near Disneyland, the ocean, Dollywood..?
Thanks!
My concern is when the sibling comes from out of town to stay in my home that suddenly my home gets treated as an Airbnb with that siblings children and grandchildren coming from out of town and having a reunion in my home. Money is certainly not an issue for them.
If they are doing this for free, you should really consider if this is worth a fight.
How does your mom do with all the company? That would be my only concern.
I wouldn't worry about covid, we are all exposed and quite frankly we have to die some time of something, might as well be happy in the mean while.
That being said, it's good you were able to get away. We all need a break. But if you're going to be concerned about the shape of the house when you get back, the time away won't do you much good.
I can't think of a clever way to tell them you've made other arrangements (after you have) b/c of concern for the health of everyone involved, including them, but I'd use the pandemic and the need for extreme caution to let them think you're concerned about their health.
You don't want to offend the person who was asked, and she/he may be resentful since she/he is coming and presumably staying for free. So create an excuse that focuses on concern for her/him and the kids.