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A young couple targeted and manipulated my elderly friends into signing a power of attorney upon moving into assisted living. The young couple proceeded to steal their home, deed and possession. Then, was able to get in charge of hospice of the dementia, heart failure husband. The young girl (pretending to be granddaughter) was in charge of Morphine & Ativan. Within 2 days, the husband is dead. He was 88. The 86 year old wife (the elderly are my dear friends), is not thinking clearly and lost her husband of 40+ years. I’m concerned the young couple will try to “off” her, to get the remaining assets which are substantial. This is in Louisiana. I am not family, only a very concerned friend. How do I attempt to protect my sweet friend? She thinks this couple is trying to “help” her. Louisiana laws are different from most states. I’m at a loss!! And scared!! Is there anyone from Louisiana that can offer advice. Please and Thank You!! 😢

My Aunt, who had dementia, found herself in a similar situation which I ended up having to fix. I quickly learned that she was very resourceful in "bribing" people to do things for her that allowed her to continue living in her own home, driving etc with very few the wiser of the extent of her dementia.

She would pay ALOT for this one woman to bring her soup. The "cleaning lady" was given diamonds, all expense paid trips etc. The handyman car.... the real estate agent a condo for his nephew..... the list goes on. She even "bribed" the bus driver at the independent living facility I moved her to, to take her back to her condo so she could drive herself places....

I had thought these people were taking advantage of my Aunt, I changed all of the locks, fired them all and prevented them from visiting her when she moved into assistant living for fear they would continue to milk her...

Ultimately, my aunt was doing what she felt she needed to do to care for herself. She was making the decisions, albeit with a dying brain, but none the less making them. When she ordered me a very expensive bracelet her manipulation for favors began... I returned the bracelet. I knew better, but she was very convincing to others, including an expert neurologist. These people knew she wasn't well, and felt they were helping take care of her though uncomfortable with all of the gifts, she was generous and they were overwhelmed by the seemingly rich lady's generosity.

She reported me to her assistant living facility of taking advantage of her when I let her know it was time to move to a memory care locked door facility and she ouwld have to give up her dog. They believed her and called APS. She told her best friends I was trying to lock her up, and take all of her money, they believed her. When she died (4) weeks later (Lewy body moves fast In the end), those same friends confronted me loudly about what they thought I had done,...

Which is a long way of saying your friend's situation may not be at all what you think. Good luck!!!
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Susan, I've just returned to this site and thread post and thought this through further after considering something I tried to report a couple years ago in an entirely different situation though. While it's severely disappointing, I can see where the local pd would have been dismissive to your story. Especially if the lady herself is not making the claim.

You mentioned they said her signing for the couple to be her POA was problematic and what makes it more problematic is what you shared here about the lady wanting to protect the young couple for whatever reason... You mentioned she loves their 2 small children. Perhaps having no children or grandchildren of her own she's feeling adopted or something.

If you could go to the funeral Monday, it would open up a better understanding for you and lead you to know who else is in this ladies life now who could possibly help. I did read where you weren't going to be able to attend though,..and you mentioned having surgery today, which I hope went well.

Your concern for this lady is admirable and I know you would like to protect her.
Where the house was taken and you believe it was an intentional pre-meditated scam, I would definitely suggest reporting to that special unit I mentioned within the DOJ. Additionally maybe circling around again with Louisiana's APS and local authorities as well.

If you knew of even one additional concerned person who knows the woman and if there were reports coming from two sources, perhaps local authorities would reconsider? Who is officiating the funeral service? You mentioned they had a church they used to attend, could you contact the pastor there and share your concerns with him? Since you are out of state, this would be someone local who could stay in touch with the woman and possibly make their own determination about risk and fraud. Maybe the lady will be more open with her former pastor.

I'm just not sure there's a lot anyone can do if the lady herself is insistent on protecting the young couple. It's kind of like the stories you hear of a wife being beaten who then refuses to cooperate to bring charges against the abusing spouse. I agree that It should be different in the way of her being a vulnerable senior who you feel was manipulated.

We always hear see something say something,..and that's what you've done. If no one cares to follow up or take action, you can at least have peace within yourself that you tried your best.

Oh, one last sort of out there idea,...if you're still feeling distress about what you're sure is fraud on a senior and no one else is taking it seriously... I suppose you could always look for an investigative reporter willing to look into the situation closer and if they find merit after investigating, they might expose it.

Best of luck to you.
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I don’t think the details are accurate in this story, Susan.

You say that the gentleman had dementia. What about the wife?

Hospice doesn’t operate in this way. I am not saying that this couple is on the up and up but I don’t think they got ahold of hospice drugs to administer to your friend.

Which police department did you contact? Was it Jefferson Parish Police Department? We don’t have counties here. We have parishes.
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Susan.

I am in New Orleans, which is a hop, skip and jump away from Metairie.

I have probably driven by the assisted living facility that your friend is in. I go to Metairie all the time.

I am trying to follow your story, which sounds totally bizarre to me. I’m so sorry that you lost your friend and I understand that you are afraid for his wife.

Please forgive me. I don’t feel like reading all of the comments over again.

Can you answer questions for me please? Was your friend receiving hospice care in the assisted living facility? Do you know the name of the hospice organization or the facility?

You said that the elderly couple had no children. So, who actually placed them in the facility to begin with? Did the couple place them?
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In a hospice situation family and next of kin are allowed to administer morphine and ativan and are shown how to do so. It is end of life care, and the end of life is expected to come. Was this
If you suspect someone of killing someone, why was this not reported to the police and the DA at once? This goes WAYYYYY beyond a call to APS. Call the police today, or go to your local sheriff or police station to discuss; remember to take your proof of this couple posing as family when they are not. Saying "I suspect" to the police won't be enough. The more calm and rational you are, the more PROOF you have that this is NOT family, the more seriously you will be taken. They will also want to know exactly what causes you to suspect that this couple, who your friend has trusted as family, has offed her husband and intends to do the same to her.
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lealonnie1 Jan 11, 2023
Next of kin and family is NOT allowed to administer drugs in a hospice situation in ANY Assisted Living Facility or managed care residence I've ever been associated with Alva. ONLY certain nursing staff (RNs) are permitted to deliver such meds which are kept under lock and key 24/7. IDK what the laws are pertaining to this in LA, but I'd be shocked to know anyone BUT certain staff has the ability to dole out such meds in ALFs in that state. The liability to THEM would be huge.
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If ur friend does not have dementia, she can have the POA revoked and assign someone else. Are you sure they sold the house and kept the proceeds and not placed them in friends acct? I would think if hospice was involved, the would have the AL nurse give the meds. As I understand it, not enough morphine is given to kill. In my Moms AL they are not allowed any drugs in their room, I would think that goes for hospice drugs too.
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Susan182 Jan 11, 2023
The sweet elderly lady is 86 and probably does have some form of elderly issues. She has somewhat trusted this young couple, but then she will say “she hopes…. She has money left?” She hopes “they will help her”. But she has no one else there in Metairie. And the elderly lady loves the two small children of the young couple. She “doesn’t want them to get in trouble”. She can’t get starlight answers, yet she continues to trust them. It’s a mess. She told me once “she was in too deep”. I do think she is being manipulated, deceived and defrauded. Proving it is much harder. I have no physical proof other than the name of the person at Elderly Protection. She said I would need to make another complaint (basically start over). The local or county police wouldn’t take a complaint because the elderly lady signed the POA. 😢
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One more thing Susan, based your addt'l info posted in-thread...
The DOJ has a special section dedicated to investigating elder fraud. That's all I really know and I'm unsure if they only get involved to investigate if multiple seniors are affected vs an individual situation. Could be either way, I simply don't know. I do believe you can report anonymously if you want. I have no idea whether they'll jump on receiving a tip, or if it will end up lost or delayed by govt backlog. I'm in the middle of my own emergency right now so I can't look up further info on this, but I just recalled researching this for something entirely different a couple yrs ago. It's the US Dept of Justice, (Fed govt), and search Elder Fraud or anything along those lines within their website, to get you to the right place. This is just another avenue for you to pursue. It DOES NOT REPLACE contacting local police or APS again. Good luck with finding help for your vulnerable senior friend. I'm signing out now.
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Susan182 Jan 11, 2023
Thank you!! I called many agencies. I kept hearing “She signed the POA, that person can do what they want. The husband was at end stage heart failure, had dementia, and she was told he was diagnosed with COVID? I hadn’t thought about DOJ, because I was told the Govenor’s Office Elderly Protection was investigating.
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Susan, Please call the police ASAP and report this. Don't delay. Was it you that notified APS to begin with? Can you explain further about that? I won't be able to be here to see your answer but you are in good hands with the others posting here to give advice.
#1 thing... Call the police now!

Also did these people have any relatives or friends whatsoever? Who handled the funeral? Surely you were there I would think. Please contact anyone else who knew this couple as well. Posting here is fine and you can get advice and ideas, but it doesn't bring the real help or protection that's needed right now! You have to follow thru with notifying those who can help! Wishing you success at this!
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Susan182 Jan 11, 2023
The funeral is not until this Monday. I live out of state and also having surgery this Friday. My friend says she understands why I can’t be at Funeral. I’m not sure if there are any family left and I am not family. I gave them a place to stay when they evacuated for Hurricane Katrina. We stayed close friends ever since. I talked with lawyers in LA but they wanted $$$ big retainer. 🤷‍♀️
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You're accusing someone of murder here in addition to other serious crimes and should be notifying the police, not posting on an internet caregiver forum. Laws pertaining to committing murder and stealing homes are the same in all states. The people that can offer you advice are law enforcement officials in Louisiana.
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Susan182 Jan 11, 2023
Law enforcement would not even take the allegations when the house was stolen. I tried city and county and many other agencies. It didn’t help that it was during Thanksgiving, then Christmas, then New Years. I was under the impression that Elderly Protection was watching out for their well-being!
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I live in Louisiana. Your story sounds bizarre to me.

Did you notify the police? APS, about his wife? The facility?

Did this elderly couple have children?

When did you first hear about this situation with someone pretending to be a granddaughter?

Sorry for the loss of your friend.
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Susan182 Jan 10, 2023
APS was notified when the house was stolen. I noticed them again when the husband “died”. The couple never had children, nor adopted children. The husband had dementia and was child like. The wife was trying to do the best she could taking care of him, but she had broken her pelvis and was bed ridden. The young couple started out “helping” them, taking to appointments, bringing food. The impersonating began trying to get more insurance money to replace roof on elder couples house that had been damaged in a hurricane. It’s like a John Grisham story but it is real life scamming the most vulnerable.
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