The two of them were closer when my son was younger, but as he's gotten older, he doesn't want to hang out with him as much. And now my 10 year old wants nothing to do with him because he won't leave him alone. We all live together so my grandfather isn't alone or in a home. He has become so obsessed with my son. He walks into his room anytime he walks by, sometimes just walking in without knocking, sometimes over and over again until my son is screaming at him to go away. If my son isn't home, he will ask me every couple min if I know where he is. I'll even write on a dry erase board where everyone is, but he still asks. In the middle of the night, he will get up and go into his room. There have been times I will be downstairs and I'll hear them upstairs yelling and cussing at each other. I'll break it up only to have to run back a min later to break it up again. It's a constant battle everyday. I try to explain to grandpa he doesn't want to be bothered then he just yells at me tells me to off. This is just one of many bad behaviors grandpa has picked up in the last couple years. Idk what to do it's causing a lot of stress on my kids....
It is very stressful, and distressing for your son. You are not stalked in your own home. You are not walked in on, over and over.
You are allowing this to continue. Why? Your poor son has no privacy. Feels unsafe in every room. Even if he locked the door, it is still not going to stop.
And then you are yelling at the grandfather on top of it. A big scene. More distressing, more stress. This has to stop. It's abusive.
MOM you need to protect your son FIRST. You are not!
Time to find solutions. Get him to a geriatric psychiatrist. Get him on some meds. If there is nothing that can help, its time for a new address for grandpa. It is not time for the sin to be sacrificed to grandpa's obsession.
Your son deserves to feel safe in his own home. You are not the one being hunted down and harassed non stop.
You need to do something. The son shouldn't have to tolerate this. You are not being a good mom to him. And you are not getting the grandfather the help he needs. It is distressing for him as well. You need to address this situation immediately!!! Stop sacrificing your son.
I noticed as my moms dementia got worse, she’s obsessed with kids. She always points them out or tries to talk to them in the store. Not in a creepy way-she just thinks they are so cute and wants to interact with them. I try to explain that she is a stranger, she can’t go up to them and talk to them or play with them. I noticed she calls the other residents at her memory care “kids”. When I bring her something she says “I can’t wait to show the other kids”-meaning the other residents in her facility. I’m not sure if this is normal, if regression is part of her dementia. That she sees the kids as equals, and sees herself as a kid. I would definitely see a doctor to ask if medication can help. And making the decision for memory care was such a hard one, but I feel like it has helped my mom a lot. She is very social with the other residents, and hopefully the caregivers there have experience dealing with all of the weird problems I never imagined when I first started taking care of her.
So sorry to hear this, it must be hard for everyone involved. But you def must make sure your son feels safe in his own home-above all else.
At 93 he most likely doesn't have much time left. wouldn't be better for all of you, especially your grandfather, to have him in a place where he might be more comfortable and have around-the-clock care and you and your family can breathe better during the day, and sleep better at night knowing he's safe cared for and watched over?
Hope it all works out for all of you. Good Luck.
Colleen P. Pell.
Again like his mother, who was loving but practiced old school respect of space, would, post dementia, go over to every stranger that was pushing a baby carriage or stroller, or parent’s walking with a toddler (and kids up to about 12 years), to tell them that they had the most sweetest, most precious and most beautiful child he’s ever seen.
Sadly and embarrassingly, some of loving parents knew better and especially those young adults would rear back their heads and think this old geez is playing mischief and they weren't too happy.
Post dementia my husband, again like his mother, would additionally approach dog walkers and give them the same business whether the dog was on it’s last leg, unkempt and downright ugly or prize winners.
He also goes up to young couples and tells them how wonderful they look. And if they’re walking with family he’d stop them, point his index finger up to indicate that he has something of great importance to tell them and then compliments the bjeezus out of ‘em.
Most people respond with a big thank you. Some folks recognize that he’s a little off and are understanding. Maybe they have experienced this with their family.
Sometimes, I wave my hand slightly to catch their attention, and while trying to convey sympathy with my eyes, I put my finger to the center of my lips and then touch my temple. Very often I get a smiling wink and a nod in return. All’s good.
He is captivated by children and animals. He loves the animal planet network on TV.
Sadly, while waiting in a queue with children happily milling nearby, I’ve had to say to him - “If you see an adult man, staring at a little boy/girl, how does that look?” He is stunned and replies that I’m right and corrects himself, and I can see his heartbreak. He becomes sad, he physically droops, is shorter and suddenly ages. While he looks at kids they are a tonic to him. He brightens.
I always, always keep an eye out. It’s hurtful to me because I know that he can only relate as a child. It’s hurtful to me that for everyone's sake I have to cautiously regard my sweetheart in an unpleasant way because of unknown possibilities. I’m not a mind reader so I’m constantly in state of awareness when children are nearby. He’s alway respectful but too happy with children.
It’s disturbing, but I very fortunately witnessed this exact behavior with my husband’s mom, otherwise I’d be very creeped out.
I believe it’s an overwhelming compulsion that is trigger by viewing the uncomplicated, the safe, the unpretentiousness of children and animals. This vision produces a serotonin dopamine sunshine cocktail. They love the world. And I stay vigilant.
I know about, and have viewed caregiver's instructional video's of dementia patient going through the second adolescence. It's not funny, can be simply super annoying and it can be dangerous. I also know that with some, in their very clouded way they are deeply yearning for that time when there was nothing bad in the world and there are holidays, and pizza, and no cares.
Your grandfather’s behavior is on hyperdrive, and it is very disturbing to you, an adult who has had time to develop resilience, defenses and understanding which ONLY comes from years of experiences.
How can a boy who has not had time at all to become resilient, or to learn how to process such stress, deal with this way-to disturbing environment, especially if his protector, his teacher, his mom is perhaps herself burned out and mismanaging.
There are only two opponents in the ring, your home, that I'm concerned about. Who do you think is going to be damaged.
It could be that he does have dementia and is most comfortable with people your son’s age… but you can’t be sure… so you have to find out.
The immediate cure would be to put a lock on your son’s door - on the inside. That way, he can lock GreatGrandpa out. That’s not a permanent solution, but it will give him peace of mind and show him that he has top priority.
If you put all of your Grandpa’s antics together, does it present a picture of a normal person? If not, testing has to be done first- then the living situation may need to change.
Ask his doctor for a sedative to give him before his appointment. Have him transported by ambulance if need be, by he absolutely must be seen by a specialist- someone who specializes in dementia, not his general practitioner.
Those people post not looking for solutions to the situation but looking to pass to others so they can get back to a normal life without hassles.
To those selfish people all I can say is I dearly hope the situation is hereditary and one day the problem is yours and no one willing to assist just pass your ass off to some facility so they don't have to deal with it your ass.
Waking him during the night is unacceptable.
Take grandpa to his primary and get him medicated and buy time to find where he can be moved.
Not sure how your house is set up but son needs a lock on door & maybe a baby gate at the end of the hallway. Some kind of barrier to keep grandpa away but he does need medication even a low dose to help.
My Mom say over and over, Well, I don't remember that.
Which to her means ----- It flat dab didn't happen or I'd remember it.
Now do yourself a favor and try ---- TRY, and this is just for your own frustration levels, not to use Reason and Logic to a mind that does not function like yours does cause it just going to confuse and frustrate you. Next month he may obsess over the dog or cat. --------- For the sake of your own peace of mind LET IT GO. He's in his own little world and they know him there.
If he ask the same question 5 times in a 15 minute period just answer it as cheerfully as possible each time and MOVE ON. He doesn't know he's ask it before or he would not ask again.
Just FYI, if he ask a question AGAIN that you just don't want to get into again, simply say, Dad, wait just a few minutes I need to go to the bathroom. Ten minutes later 30/70 chance he will not remember. Yesterday, Friday Morning I had some bills that needed attention & a stop at the back was on the morning schedule. But Mom, trying to figure out when all this started ask me a question and wanted to sit down and discuss some things. Mom, love to do that later in the day I need to take care of a few thing first. Oh, NO, now she's upset that I won't take time for something as she puts it ----- is much more important that what you are doing. Mom, I'm sure it is very important to you and I'll be happy to sit when I get back but I need to do this running around before it gets 105 outside. I'll be back in two hours. I said no more, ignored everything she said after that gave her a kiss and be back shortly and left. She's giving me that LOOK all the way to the car. Came back two hours later and she'd forgotten the whole thing including getting upset.
It was not always this way. I tried to understand. I wanted the relationship to function the way it always had with Mom. I know what to expect. I knew what lines not to cross. Well, guess what? That relationship is no longer there and never will be again. --------- Suck it up Big Guy and get use to it.
It's a new dawn, a new life you me ..... And I'm feeling Goooood.
I'm not dealing with my wise old 98 year old Mother any longer. I'm dealing with a 98 year old Mind that does not grasp reality. That does not understand what is happening to her. So please don't try and continue the relationship like it's been all your life. You'll be a whole lot less frustrating day to day and hour to hours if you adjust your thinking a little. You have to for your Dad doesn't have the ability to do so anymore. -------- Don't take anything CONDECENDING ATTACKING OR RUDE TO BE PERSONAL. It's just the way it is now. So adjust for he can't.
--------------HAVE A GOOD DAY.
Dementia is an umbrella term, there are many types, Alzheimer's being the most common. Dementia symptoms, like any other brain damage or acquirred brain injury, varies between brains & presents differently.
Some are sweetly vauge & forgetful. Some are angry & combative & refuse all help. Some fixate & become obsessive. Some lose inhibition & become overtly sexual.
While explaining to the son that Grandfather has brain problems may be needed & useful, the child's safety is of utmost importance.
Sexual abuse survivors will attest that the damage lasts a lifetime - whether the cause is intentional or a product of dementia matters not.
I personally have been approached & grabbed at & witnessed same by a man with fronto-temporal lobe dementia while volunteering at a nursing home. He was already medicated but meds not yet stabalised. He was a new admission as he could no longer be trusted with his grandchildren, was absconding & endangering his wife, plus a risk to other adults & children in the community.
I am very glad Str8 you are able to care for your Mother & do not have that awful situation. It is rarer (I believe) with females, but does happen.
If he’s in your house, you can always use the infestation fiblet for starters. The house can’t be lived in for now, so for now he’s going to a senior hotel. Seriously, once they’re in care, it lifts so much of the burden.
Either way, if your 10 yo lets on half of what you’ve said here to any mandated reporter, it’s possible you could get a visit. Not from aps, from cps.
Gpa can't control himself and you're asking a lot for your son to live with constant stress. It will not end well, sorry to say.
When my FIL needed FT care, not in his home, my DH offered to have him live with us. Without consulting me.
We still had 2 single daughters living at home and while they loved their Gpa dearly, having him in the house 24/7 would have ended any hope of a good relationship. Both (one was only 15) said they would move out if we moved Gpa in. Also the fact that my DH traveled 75% of the time and I was already running out to Gpa's house 3 times a day to care for him. Having him in my home would have been a marriage breaker.
No, gpa won't 'get' why he can't live with you. Dementia is horrible. You can't reason with him, nor guide him to better behavior.
I think you know you need to place gpa and put your son first.