My conscience bothers me because I never want to be with my dying mother...

Smpengwin, did your mom have any rehab after her strokes?

I ask, because my mom had strokes and watching her work in speech therapy helped both of us. It helped HER get some of her speech skills back and it taught me that pictures were a great way for her to communicate.

Try this. Make a folder or notebook with laminated pictures, maybe drom a magazine or printed off the web. Things she might want to request, like water, coffee, ice cream. I page that says "i love you". One that says "it hurts". Pages with various body parts like legs, arms, head, neck.

Is there any thought among all of you that mom might do better in a care facility? The visiting woukd be easier, I think if you didnt have to do the hands on care.

I agree with BarbBrooklyn that maybe getting your mom assessed for hospice services (even in the home, if that's what is desired) may help with this sorrowful and stressful task so that your remaining time with your mom can be "better" than what's going on now.

As far as coping with the brutal realities of (some) end-of-life passings...I gently encourage you to be brave and move towards it. This is a maturing opportunity for you, and there are lessons to be learned and applied, unpleasant as they seem now. If it were you in that bed grimacing and moaning, wouldn't you welcome and cherish the company of your family who were willing to just sit there with you? I used to dread (and avoid) those who had lost loved ones because I felt I couldn't "solve" their problem or make them feel better. I was terrified of saying and doing the wrong thing and somehow making things worse for them. I felt guilty that they had a tragedy and I didn't. But out of necessity I eventually figured out comforting things to say and now if I'm stuck, I don't say anything at all, just hug them. If you go to be with your mom, do so with some ideas of what to say and do. No one will judge you, least of all your mom. Your brother needs a break and your help will bless him mightily. Just go and be yourself, bring a speaker and play some of her favorite music softly, maybe put out some essential oil fragrance of something she would have liked. If her mouth is open she may need those lemon-flavored foam sticks that can be wet and dabbed on her tongue so she gets some hydration. Hold her hand, rub her arm gently and briefly. There's no wrong answer when you are with her. I think I can say with surety that if you spend time with her while she is passing you will never regret it. In no way am I trying to pressure or shame you into doing it. Just making the case to be brave for her sake. I wish you much courage and peace in your heart as you move through it all.

Dear "smpengwin,"

I feel bad that you are experiencing so many different emotions when it comes to your mom. Part of it is that you were once very close before she had her strokes and I don't think you've ever recovered from the fact that she isn't the same and never will be. You also may be suffering from PTSD as it sounds like you've been traumatized by all of this. It's no wonder you don't want to visit her - each time you do, you become traumatized all over again. Honestly, I don't blame you - I think what you witness is frightening at least if I put myself in your shoes, that's how I would feel. It could be fear that keeps you stuck too - fear and anxiety about what you will see each time you go. I feel awful for her to be going through such agony, sometimes we have to see it from their eyes as "Geaton777" mentioned.

I've had times when I didn't want to visit my mom because it was either upsetting or draining. I knew once I went back home, I was done for the day so I could "recover." I was always close to my mom as well. She is 95 with Alzheimer's and with God's help he has given me patience and mercy when I visit (window visit now with the pandemic). The main difference between you and me is I don't have a sibling to help out. I'm her sole caregiver with my husband's help when he can since he works. For the past five years she has lived in an ALF and now is in a new facility in their memory care unit. However, I did oversee her personally for ten years after my dad died in 2004.

Maybe you could implement what "BarbBrooklyn" suggested - to make a notebook to give her. This could give you a creative outlet in dealing with her. Also, "Geaton777's" ideas to play some soft music and providing some flavored foam sticks would be great ideas. Try to find something that could be helpful for both of you.

Your brother's anger when you don't want to give him a break is understandable. He desperately needs it. It sounds like it may be time to place her in a care facility where they are trained to deal with all the issues both you and your brother are facing with your mom. I think it would benefit all of you.

I know that you feel like you're a terrible person and have come to a place where you dislike yourself. This is not good and in the end won't serve any useful purpose. You may need to talk with someone regarding these strong feelings.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers - that God would grant you the ability to be with your mom in spite of the many barriers that are keeping you from spending time with her.


"You are my hiding place, You always fill my heart with songs of deliverance whenever I am afraid - I will trust in You." Song based on the verse Psalm 32:7

I think you are being selfish. If your brother can deal with it, so can you. Your mother and brother need you now. Imagine being in her place! Just talk soothingly to her and keep her comfortable. You can deal with the demons later.

Right now you seem to be lacking the compassion gene. Why? Who knows. But you would be very wise to get some counseling to talk this through. A therapist might be able to help you understand your feelings and how to handle them.

it is not unusual to dread going to see a loved one who is no longer like the person you once knew. They are so changed. Imagine though if you were your mom and what it must be like to be trapped in a body with a stroke. She has it far worse than you. So perhaps think of it in those terms.

Are you a person of faith? If so you might think of yourself as an instrument of loving kindness (in my own case, as a minister of Jesus on earth). That is the talk I would give myself to prepare myself when I went to see dad in the NH. I asked my angels to be with me and to have the right words put in my mouth as to what to say and do. I put myself in my dad's shoes. No, it wasn’t always easy. But this builds character and empathy and that is so important. Your brother needs a break and if you are only going once a week then you are doing the bare minimum to relieve him.
please get help with your feelings and buck up and find ways to be more compassionate.

I also suggest that Hospice service get involved if they aren’t already. She would certainly qualify and Medicare covers it, along with her incontinent supplies, medical equipment, bathing, medications and helping prevent bedsores Etc.

I don’t think it’s wrong to pray for death for a loved one who is in so much emotional and physical distress. But what is your mother trying to tell you? What kind of care is your brother giving her? Why is a woman in this kind of condition living with your brother and not in skilled nursing care? There is something more here than meets the eye. Instead of spending time trying to avoid seeing your mother like a naughty child, spend your time trying to figure out why she’s acting the way she is. What is your motive for keeping her at home? Whose home? Is your brother living with her in her own home? Is there a financial incentive in keeping her out of more expensive care?

Your brother probably feels the same way you do and may be cruel or neglectful when you are not around. If there are rational answers for the questions I pose, then my advice is for you to grow up and do your duty to your brother and your mom. Unless you are lucky enough to die suddenly, you too could be in the same shape some day. I’m always amazed by some of the letter writers on this forum who have little or no empathy and imagine that old age and infirmity is never going to happen to them. It is.

I feel EXACTLY how you do. My Mother was a high school math teacher who could do Calculus in her head. Now Alzheimer's has robbed her of the ability to think she does not even know her own name. She is in Memory Care facility and I NEVER go to visit. Every night I pray she will die peacefully in her sleep. I feel better seeing the problems and comments on this blog so I know I am NOT a terrible person. I just wish for the suffering to end.

I used to get mad at my Mother sometimes even though I knew she couldn't help it. I think I was mad at the dementia and what it was doing to her. It wasn't her fault. And I loved her. So, knowing that I just pushed it aside and loved her until she was gone. It was all I could do.

I don't have much advice except to say that maybe you could read a book to her or reminisce about past shared experiences with her? If you go with an idea of what to do there, it might take your mind off the grossness and help you focus on the larger picture of comforting your mom a little bit. Like the others said, please get more help for your mom. Good luck and hugs.

Let's start with the physical "stuff". Biological messes, soiled diapers, and smell can truly be gross. Parents do this for their babies 'cuz they know it is necessary and that they will grow out of this, Fairly certain your mom and brother find it distasteful too. This is one of those cases where you need to find ways to make it more pleasant:: large towels on mom's chest for drool and food; mask, gloves and aerosol spray when changing diapers; play music or tv programs mom likes to distract her if she tends to interfere with cleaning efforts.

If you run out of things to say, try reading her a book, singing her a favorite song, or praying with and for her (but please leave the death stuff for your private prayers).

If mom appears distressed, talk with your brother about it. He can mention the problem to her doctor. She may be in physical or mental anguish. A mild sedative can help her to relax. Mild pain medications given on a schedule can help with discomfort. Then, she will be less likely to grab you.

You need to forgive yourself because you are human. Since your mom suffered so much in life, realize we all are going to die and the way the government is going probably sooner than we all think (probably nuclear war), so instead of feeling bad--she's actually pretty lucky she is in peace now.

You definitely need to keep going to visit and help out with your mom once a week, if nothing else to release your poor brother who is there the rest of the time.

No one enjoys death
No one enjoys watching a loved one die.

I imagine your mom is in a lot of pain that would account for some of her noises.

Also, some of her noises is because she can't talk to you, she can only grunt, ect.

You should pray for yourself and ask God to give you the strength to return the favor to your mom by helping her until God decides to take her.

Remember that everything you are doing for her from feeding her, wiping her drool, listening to her cry out and changing her diapers is Everything, she did for you 24 7 when you were a baby.

The situation is now reversed.

Dont pull away from your mom when she reaches out to you, Close your eyes and hug her.

You don't have to talk non stop to her.

Play some of her favorite music.

GI've her a foot or back massage, massage her head, give her some peace and happiness.

It must be very scary for her.
It is no fun dying.
Be kind and show mercy and empathy.

It's ok to pray that God takes her or heals her but you should be doing it for her, not for you.

You are stronger than you think. You can do this.

If you don't, you will be sorry and never forgive yourself.

Love and Prayers

Speak to people who know how to care for people who have had strokes so that you can learn better what to expect and how to handle it. When my mother got dementia, I learned a lot from the aides at her memory care residence. Hospice workers also can advise. If your mother can't speak and is incapacitated, it is probably very frustrating for her, especially if her mind is still good. She may be in pain. She's having very bad days. If you can, try to accept her for what she is. She needs people to help her, the way an infant does. This is the human condition. We are not all lucky to die in our sleep while fully capable. If you just can't face it, can you hire a care giver for her the times that your brother needs a break? You can't expect him to be on call 24/7 without breaks.

My mother went through a series of devastating strokes which robbed her of every ability. It was the cruelest thing I’ve ever witnessed. Your feelings are normal, and you can’t be blamed for them. What you can do is try to view this from your mother’s perspective. She’s trapped in a body that no longer works for her, she can’t do anything she used to enjoy, including spending quality time with you. She can’t communicate her frustrations in any meaningful way, she’s truly living what has to be her worst nightmare. Viewing her life as much as you can through her eyes may help you find the strength and compassion you need for visits. Your mother likely longs for your presence. Consider reading to her, play music softly, touch is important, hold her hand, thank her for the good times you had together in the past. It will be healing for you both. There was never one time I went to see my mother that I didn’t hate going in, but I had to learn to make it good. I took my children and they learned compassion and empathy from those visits. I had to learn that my mother was in the very last position she ever wanted and somehow my visits had to make it just a bit brighter. It’s so very hard, I wish you peace

My mother had a severe left-brain stroke and since, also has changed. She has most, if not all, of the symptoms you describe in your mother. This is because her brain has changed. After having strokes, wouldn't you perhaps change? Hypothetically, would you want one of your children to feel the way you currently feel toward your Mom? I'm sure your mother didn't want to end up in her condition.

Bless your mother's heart - I feel so sorry for her, but not for you! Really, do you think it's going to be pleasant dealing with someone who is so extremely hurt?

Your prayers to God should be for your mother not to suffer, NOT for her to go ahead and die so you won't have to spend time with her.

This is going to sound harsh - but you need to have compassion and sympathy for your Mom, instead of just feeling "I" this and "I" that. Please get psychiatric counseling and ask the doctor to help you become empathetic and sympathetic toward your mother. You should be concerned with how your mother must feel, instead of with how YOU feel. If you can get over yourself and start feeling compassion and sympathy instead of being "grossed out", it will go a long way toward helping you spend time with your Mom during the short time on earth she has left. Also, perhaps you can also start feeling some empathy toward your brother who I'm sure really does need a break once in a while.

I’m praying for you. It is not your gift to be a caregiver even to your mother that you love dearly. Try to find other ways to show your love to your mother. Hire a caregiver to help you care for your mother when visit.
My sister in law found it extremely difficult to care for her dependent mother. She did find other ways to help.
It was recommended hospice care. It would be good support for the entire family. You and your brother need spiritual and emotional support that hospice offers.
Also, think of ways you can support your brother. Let him how much you appreciate the care that he renders to your mother. Being a caregiver can be not only difficult but lonely.

You are not alone. I understand how you feel. The fact is that the person who lives up the street from you is not the same mother you have known all your life. I am happy for you that you were once very close, that closeness will be a wonderful memory for you. I, too, have a mother who bears only a slight resemblance to the mother I had 30 years ago. We were never really close, though we were good friends when my children were small. In some ways that makes it easier. I do care for and about my mother, though I am often frustrated by the changes that age has brought her. These are feelings that one should expect, I think. After all, here is the stalwart figure of our childhood turned into a weak and suffering shell, lacking all her normal powers. How can we see that without feeling threatened and repulsed?

The answer, I think, if there is one, is to accept the fact that this shell of a person is what has happened to your mother. Try not to compare this shell to the mother of your memories. You are not dealing with the mother of your younger years, but helping the remaining shell of a person ease toward her final release. We humans have a hard time facing the ends of lives and all the changes that come at the end. You are human. Perhaps you will cope better if you rehearse in your mind some happy memories which you can share with her when you are there. Start your stories with "Remember when..." and let your stories wander. As much as you can, concentrate on the story, the good memories.

If there is any money for it, see if you could get assistance with the feeding and changing. I understand that your sensibilities are affected by this. Not everyone is cut out to be a nurse. Your brother does deserve a break and you are lucky to have him. Perhaps, if you could visit more often in the morning or afternoon when your brother has already fed her a recent meal and your company is all that is required you might find more joy in visiting your mother. Wiping her mouth from time to time as you talk to her might be more manageable for an hour or so. Your brother can then get a short break while you visit with her. If you could also get some assistance with the hour or so that she needs to be fed and changed on Saturdays you would be a substantial help to your brother and a comfort to your mother without needing to deal with feeding and changing. You might want to check with Senior Services to see if they can help find a part-time aid to assist you. What you really want to give to your mother is comfort and company. You say she seems afraid, try to comfort that fear in her. She may also be embarrassed and ashamed. We cannot know what goes on in the minds of stroke victims. Try to give her reassurance and comfort to relieve those feelings. If you fortify yourself with those happy memories and tell them well, you may be able to comfort yourself while you are trying to comfort your mother.

I just want to say that I really understand how you feel. The dreadful grimaces, noises, incontinence and plain ugliness of an old person with extreme stroke and dementia damage no longer resemble the person you loved. This has been happening for a long time now and you know that she would hate it if her younger self could see herself now. It is nothing at all like caring for a baby. In my mother's case, the shouts and wails were often involuntary and I really don't think she was in as much distress as it appeared. She won't be aware of the effect it is having on you so try to accept it without becoming upset. I am sure you have love and compassion for your mother and wish you were able to cope better with the depressing reality, but it is easier for some people than others. Her quality of life is poor now and of course an end to her suffering would be a blessing. In time you will remember the mothering she gave you and the person she really was. Meanwhile, distractions such as music, television or even a present of a soft toy cat/teddy may help soothe her. Show her a photo album or magazine to look through. There are support professionals online and on the phone in the UK to give advice and may offer free help - have a look. Steel yourself and keep on keeping on. x

Hello. I so appreciate your honesty and comments. I am dealing with the same thing with my 94 year old mom, who lives a county away from me. While physically independent, she is very emotionally dependent and a drain for me and my kids. She is also mean and demanding, which creates a situation similar to yours where I do not want to go see her. A nun once said, "Some people have to go home to be with Jesus to be happy." Is your mom a widow? My mom is, and has not been the same since my dad passed 10 years ago. After dealing with this for a decade, my best advice to you is to set boundaries. Limit your visits to once a week max. The fact that you live a few houses away is causing your guilt, so just pretend that you don't live so close. I know this is easier said than done, but as a wise person said to me on this forum, it's her sanity or yours. Another person commented, "Are your trying for sainthood from someone who won't give it to you?" While those comments stung, they made me reevaluate the situation and act appropriately. For the sake of your well being, I urge you to do the same. Don't hate yourself! It is your psyche telling you to take care of you. My mom has become verbally abusive and we can never do enough. It wasn't until I pulled away a bit that I saw this. I encourage you to do the same. Good luck!

I am of a conflicted mind with this.

On the one hand, I can understand your reluctance to see mom, especially when she is so ill and frail. It is not easy watching our parents grow old and feeble, suffer with a devastating, crippling illness. It's a whirlwind of terrible emotions. It's not anything to feel guilty about, to wish that someone you love's suffering ends peacefully and mercifully.

That said - I find your lack of empathy for your brother somewhat disturbing. That hits very close to home for me. Since my mom has entered hospice, I haven't heard anything - not one word - from one of my sisters. My texts and e-mails go unanswered and unacknowledged. I'm sure she is feeling much like you are, and "can't deal". But - and I'm sorry - that is no excuse to leave me swaying in the wind. I'm not having a picnic dealing with this, either. This is something no one is ever really prepared to deal with - including people who are caregivers by profession.

My sister's radio silence is not endearing her to me in any way, shape or form. I have never been overly close to her, and her behavior is not likely to make me want to get any closer to her once mom has passed on. I will commend you for your once a week forays to give your brother some sort of respite, but really, he needs your support more than you might think. I can't blame him for getting angry if you're saying to him the same stuff you posted here in the forum. If your asking him to "hold your hand" through your guilt, well, that's gonna get old for him real soon, if it hasn't already done so.

If you can't support him now, don't expect him to support you in your grief and guilt once mom has passed.

I see a lot of good responses on here and I will throw another one in there. Some people really do have a horrible time accepting a loved one becoming that bad off and can barely stand to see it. Sometimes it is because they themselves are afraid of death and they are having to watch it with a parent up close and personal. It is hard to take. You will need, for your own conscience, to run errands for your brother or something and tell him how you feel. Stroke patients really are trapped in their bodies and she is trying to talk to you but can’t. That is all that is going on there. Why can’t a caregiver come in for a few hours on the day that you go. She does this for a living so she has wiped many hineys and fed many patients. That will help you get through your day with her. Just your presence may help her. You have been brutally honest and I wish you the very best. Think about that caregiver aid. Spend your time with Mom in a better way and don’t pay the groaning any attention since stroke patients do that just like another poster said. They don’t realize you can’t understand them. I learned this from a stoke victim that was in the room with my mother. I acted like I understood what she was saying since she pointed at things. I agreed and nodded and talked to her. You will be soooo much better if you get help with the parts you cannot handle. Don’t beat yourself up either. That helps nobody.

Good afternoon, smpengwin,

Thank you for being honest with your feelings, and for being disturbed enough by them to reach out here.

First of all, I want to say that taking care of an adult’s personal hygiene cannot compare to taking care of an infant or toddler. This “she did this for you, so now it’s your turn” does not equate. I remember being able to change a dirty diaper on my children in a matter of minutes, while singing or laughing with them, ending with hugs and kisses.
Compare that to changing a grown man or woman. Changing my father was at least a 30 minute or more process, and though I tried to make it as pleasant as I could for the both of us, there was no comparison in my mind between what he did for me as a baby and what I was doing for him.

Now for some advice: You say that your mother is dying. Is she on Hospice. If not, please get with your brother to get this started. Spend a day doing some research on different companies, ask around. Interview a few. Hospice can be set up the very day that you call them. They will not take over the care, but you will get an extra layer of care that your mother is not getting now. They might provide a more comfortable hospital bed or wheelchair, or medication that could alleviate some of the mental anguish that your mother is feeling. And! They will provide a social worker that you could call to talk about your confusing feelings.

I don’t know how it is in your state, but call your local Area Agency on Aging. Tell them about the situation and ask about services. My state provided a caregiver, twice a week for two hours. This would be so wonderful as respite for your brother. Does your mother have any funds? Does the budget allow for paying for a caregiver even once a week? Usually, they work in 3 hour blocks, but this, too, could give respite to your brother.

Now, to what is really bothering you - your feelings of self-disgust of wanting to walk away and praying for an end to your mother’s (or your) misery. We cannot really know what causes another person to act or feel as they do. You were very forthright in your description. I can only tell you what helped me greatly when faced with a similar situation. In my case, I had two parents who needed this level of care. And...... it wasn’t in me. For whatever reason (actually, I had many) I loathed and dreaded caregiving my parents, but I knew I needed to and I was appalled at my own lack of compassion. Of myself, I couldn’t do it, but I knew to whom to turn. I daily, asked God for his love to fill me, for me to see them as He did, to give me the strength and the power to do the necessary things. For my will to be aligned with His. It didn’t happen overnight, but slowly my feelings began to change and I saw myself behave in ways that I never dreamed I could do. I had to look for a power outside of myself. My father has passed away, and his last month was not pretty. Watching someone die is an assault to the senses, yet I was there by his side hour after hour.

There are those who are born with “the milk of human kindness” within them. I wasn’t one of them. I still, daily, ask for and depend on God’s power and love to fill me as I continue to care for my mother.

"Treeartist,"

Very well written and expressed - not only was "smpengwin" honest with her feelings but, so were you.

I pray that God will give you continued grace to extend to your mother while caring for her!

@smpengwin
You are speaking my language ! I want to cry. I was about to post a very similar rant to yours.
I am the last son of my parents and I often feel this guilt.

Its just... it never gets better. There is always some new progression of the disease just lurking around the corner. Everytime I visit my parents house it feels like I'm going back to work. I JUST got off a 60hr shift at hospital and now my dad called and says Mom has some lymphadenopathy behind her ears ......so much for getting a good night's sleep.

Just keep praying sister. That is what this website is for....never feel ashamed for expressing that feeling...at least on here.

I hate watching my mother's personality disappear ! Whilst there are elderly women 10yrs older than my mom who can still do groceries independently.

Sorry. Im not trying to take over your post...but just know. I feel ya.

Imho, it's very difficult when your loved one nears the end of life. Please know that you are a wonderful daughter. Prayers sent.

Hello smpengwin. Well, that was honest and I bet a bit
hard to admit. I’d like to give you a little advice. My 95 year
old mother’s long journey ended several weeks ago. I was
her caregiver at home for over 15 years. She had dementia.
Before I go on, please understand that there will be an ending
and how you behave now will impact you after. You have gotten
some extremely good advice here, some gentle and some with a 
bit of tough love. I hope it all helps.
So, first, there is something called “compassion fatigue or
burn-out”, but I don’t think that is your problem. 
Guilt and anger, are ever present during the beginning, middle,
end and after. Everyone has experienced it in this situation. You
will not escape it, just learn the best ways to alleviate it. 
It sounds like your feeling guilty that you can’t find the strength 
you think you should have to deal with certain tasks. That’s OK.
However, it may be that your guilt goes much deeper and is not just
about the roll you play for your Mom. It’s guilt about not being able 
to help your brother as much as you think you should. This is very
Important, you could, in the end, not only lose your Mom, but your
relationship with your brother as well. 
Doctors will tell you that there are two patients in these situations,
the primary patient, your Mom, and the caregiver, your brother.
Statistics show there is a very high rate of serious health problems
experienced by full time family caregivers.
My advice to you to help alleviate your guilt is to get busy helping
your brother out. If you can not do the bedside tasks, that’s fine, there
are many, many other tasks that you can do outside of the bedroom
that will make a huge difference and help both your Mom and brother.
Taking care of these things will free up your brother so he can have
more energy to handle the hands on tasks for her.
 So: prepare her food, do the wash, clean and vacuum, do the shopping,
make sure she has all her supplies, diapers, wipes, bed protectors,
pay the bills, make sure insurance and taxes are paid, deal with Medicare
and insurance company, get hospice help (it IS covered by Medicare if
she is determined by her doctor to be terminal) mow the lawn, take care
of the house, prepare meals for your brother, run errands for him,
bring him an occasional 6-pack of beer and a pizza or something special 
he would like……you get the idea. Ask him what you can do to help HIM.
I promise you that your guilt will start to ease when you feel like your 
making a difference and contributing in a helpful way.
Here are a few more tips: put a touch lamp adapter on the bed side light.
Get a “day clock” and put it on the night stand (I used an old I-pad with a day 
clock app so it was free) play 24 hr favorite music, keep night lights on,
And the best advice I have: Get a baby monitor for your brother! Can’t live
without the monitor. Make sure you have all the correct equipment.
And last bit of advice, when you visit your mom, don’t stay too long, try
to make shorter but more frequent visits, pop in to say hi and kiss her but
don’t stay so long that it starts to upset you. That doesn’t help anyone.
In the end, remember that she loves you and does not want this situation
to distress you this much. She wouldn’t want that. It’s going to be alright.
Good luck.

I am so very sorry that you are going through this. I can't say I have been through it because I haven't. My parents are both in their late 70's and still very mobile. I already promised my mom if it ever came to her being bed ridden she has asked to be put in a nursing home. SHE DOES NOT WANT ANY OF HER CHILDREN TAKING CARE OF HER IN THAT STATE AND I PERSONALLY DON'T BLAME HER. YOUR MOM IS EITHER IN A LOT OF PAIN WITH THE GRUNTING AND HOWLING OR TRYING TO TELL YOU "NO" DON'T TAKE CARE OF HER. ESPECIALLY YOUR BROTHER, DO YOU THINK SHE IS NOT HUMILIATED BEING CHANED BY HER SON? SHE CAN'T TALK DUE TO HER STROKES BUT AM SURE SHE IS TRYING TO TELL YOU BOTH SOMETHING.

I know it's hard but you coming around keeps her aware of who you are. Is hospic helping at all? If not it sure sounds like they should be. Prayers for your mom and you as well, please don't give up on her I know it's hard but there is help out there maybe it's time you get that rolling. Blessings to you all, Kerry.

don't hate yourself, not everyone is cut out to be a caretaker and God bless your brother for what he does. And I am sure he appreciates the break you give him, however if those trips are that upsetting to you, maybe it would be better if her money is spent on an "outside" caregiver to give your brother his breaks.  Strokes, dementia, etc, do weird things to peoples brains, things that we wouldn't think possible.  And it can be frightening for some to have to deal with it.  I am sure your mom is "still in there" but she has no current way of expressing it, other than the groaning, etc.  Again, see if there is another way that some other caregiver can come in on that one day and you can just visit (not be the caregiver).  I see my mother every day except 1. she is 93 and gets around with a walker.  I can tell that she has little signs of dementia and her hearing is also going some.  I get frustrated because I have a brother (lives 1/2hour away) and he can only manage to come up maybe 1 time every 2 weeks and never volunteers to bring her food, to maybe take her to doctors appts or therapy.  Its hard to talk about anything when you see someone 6 times a week when no one is doing anything.  My brother is retired and could call her at least 1 time a week, and lately its been 1 every 2 weeks.  sorry.......but I am wishing you luck, find someone else to come in on the normal day you would and then you just visit as the daughter (not the caretaker).