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My inlaws live on an island 2.5 hrs. from my home. Ferry ride to visit. He is 85 she is 84. He has alzeimers and is fairly checked out. Local caregiver who runs adult daycare program called APS on my M-I-L claiming she is not capable of good enough care. APS came to the location of the daycare and questioned my M-I-L. Caregiver calls me and informs me she has called APS and that my M-I-L failed their cognitive test. Caregiver is pushing hard for my inlaws to be institutionalized. Caregiver requested I call APS and report also. I am not going to do this. My M-I-L is tired and worn down but loves her husband and is planning on keeping marital promises of keeping him at home for as long as possible. She has caregivers set up 5 days a week at the house and seems to be holding down the fort. My F-I-L is calm and chill and tired most of the time. He does respond to M-I-L and is still eating, walking and taking a shower. However, this caregiver is not giving up. She has inserted her opinions to other medical providers and tried to encourage them to call APS. Recently, F-I-L was admitted into hospital for failure to thrive and then on to skilled care for about a week. He is home now, but the home health nurse seems to be tied into the original caregiver who called APS. The new home health nurse is now coordinating care for OT, PT and speech therapy. She is pushing, has had my M-I-L sign electronic paperwork without leaving copies or emailing them and is asking questions that indicate she has been told false information by original caregiver - hmmmm. This is all very unsettling as my M-I-L is providing adequate care and love, food and protection, and is bringing in help. Should I be concerned by this over zealous caregiver who seems hell bent on getting my F-I-L institutionalized. The inlaws own 2 homes, have long term care ins. and a little savings. The problematic caregiver works at the nursing home on the Island. Does she have monetary reasons for her pushiness? I appreciate people who care enough to make sure that a fellow citizen is being cared for; however, she is not backing off. I have been working closely with a social worker who has approved of our current care plan for the inlaws. She is the discharge social worker from the skilled nursing home that he was recently discharged from. I have discussed this problematic caregiver with her because this same caregiver called the skilled the nursing facility that the social worker works at and suggested she call APS on my inlaws. After long discussions the social worker agreed with me that this caregiver really needs to mind her own business and that our family has it under control. However, this issue seems to be more layered each day as each person that comes to the house seems to have "heard the news" from this original caregiver....very frustrating. At first I thought my M-I-L was maybe paranoid, but now I realize she is correct. Maybe a restraining order and gag order is needed for this person? Maybe time to get an attorney. Your thoughts??

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Your FIL was admitted to hospital for failure to thrive. Hospital! Failure to thrive!!! How bad does this situation have to get before you agree that someone should actually do something for this struggling elderly couple?

Nobody is disputing how much your MIL loves her husband or how good a wife she has been to him for so long. What is at issue is whether the poor lady can continue to flog herself along in a vain attempt to "hold down the fort," as you put it. The clue is in the word 'hospital', admission thereto, for failure to thrive.

Doesn't MIL deserve a rest? Isn't it time somebody looked after her? Instead of abusing the caregiver - who, after all, has absolutely nothing to gain for all her trouble - start working with the professional team, ideally to get your MIL and FIL placed together in a continuing care facility.
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I see lots of warning signs in your account of things. In laws have a host of problems and you said mil is tired and worn down.

It may be that this caregiver is overstepping a little but i don't see how she would profit by getting your in laws placed in care.

Have you visited lately? How do things look to you? It may be they are at the tipping point of independence or facilty living. 

I'm getting to the same place with my parents. They should be in assisted living but refuse to leave their home. I understand this but by being stubborn They are in danger of a serious crisis, fall, etc and will end up in  facility care in any event, but in much worse shape than if they moved now.

Good luck to you.  This is tough stuff to sort through.
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Just on a point of order: if a professional in healthcare observes a problem, it is not only okay for her to report it, it is mandatory.

I agree that discussion with the family is important. The difficulty is that, with the best will in the world, you can't be there enough to know better than someone who is with your in-laws during their daily routines. In seeing a problem with her client and reporting it and following it up, the caregiver acted entirely correctly.
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Where did you hear all the info on church members, hair dresser, etc? MIL failed cognitive testing. Maybe she too, has dementia? Forgetting to feed FIL so failure to thrive. I think, you, the family, should make arrangements to stay with in-laws for a couple of weeks to evaluate the situation, first hand. If stories are coming from MIL the paranoia of all these people talking about her, is a symptom of dementia.
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Why are you so against what the caregiver is trying to do? You live 2.5 hours away, your FIL is 85, your MIL is 84, did you ever think that maybe, just maybe your MIL isn't capable of providing good enough care to your FIL? At 84 it's no wonder she's tired and worn down, taking care of herself on a daily basis is a full plate, the additional burden of taking care of your FIL as well has to be overwhelming. You're wasting your energy on trying to discredit the caregiver instead of spending it on what's best for your in-laws, that should be your primary concern. You need to spend some time with your in-laws, to see for yourself how much of a struggle it is for your MIL each and everyday. To think of a restraining order and getting an attorney involved in my opinion is not necessary, what's your reason,,because the caregiver wants what's best for your MIL & FIL?
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I do understand your point, also your MIL insisting she knows what's best. Because she's mentally strong doesn't make her a professional, who has seen this type of thing countless times and has the resources to back them up. Your MIL being strong mentally can be confused with being stubborn and not knowing when enough is enough. Surely you want what's best for your MIL & FIL you love them and care about they're well being, be careful not to let your emotions cloud what's really best. I'm not sure about this I'm only a police officer not an attorney, I would think if you didn't want someone caring for them you have a right to have them removed, or at least not able to contact physicians without your ( family ) approval. You can make that clear to anyone treating them, that way they wouldn't accept the caregivers calls, emails.
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Okay, while I was typing and doing other things, MostlyMe has posted twice and Moosey has posted once. Reading these updates, and perhaps I'm wrong, but I think Moosey's objection is not so much to the recommendation as the fact that the caregiver is being so aggressive and contacting others about her strong feelings.

And with that I concur that she's overstepping her bounds, and she may also be breaching HIPAA violations if she's also a health care professional. However, I believe that private duty caregivers are also bound by HIPAA - not sure about this but I think they are.
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My in-laws lives at their home on an island. There are local doctors and EMS services. No big hospital though. It is only 20 miles from me, but I have to get across on a ferry and make the long commute thru heavy big city traffic. Takes me about 2 hours sometimes, 2.5 hours to get there. The island is intertwined and more so than I realized. My objection is really with the caregiver calling APS when she had the numbers of family members that she could have called first. My 2nd objection is she was very insistant that we call and report to APS; stating that it may be uncomfortable or a hard call to make but it is for the "best" and that either way, this is not going to end well. After consulting with my sister in law and husband we decided not to agree to her suggestion. We did however get more assertive on this situation and stepped up our resolve to get to them more frequently and check on the caregiver situation and take a closer look at what is going on. There have been several other things that have happened and been said - things that are simply untrue that have been told to their health care providers; things that are coming from this particular caregiver. Things she said to me on the first phone call that I didn't know and then found out thru investigation that were not true. These things she told also to my S-I-L - were not true. We were at the hospital visiting FIL and making future arrangements with the social worker and with our MIL -- and I had the opportunity to ask questions to the doctor, that were confirmed, that what this caregiver told us - was not true. I guess she was just trying to put urgency on the matter - I am not sure. But, what I do not understand, is how the care teams that are now coming in are asking about these "conditions" that don't exist and were confirmed by the doctor staff that they don't exist - I just simply was looking to find out if this is typical or if she is stepping across some lines. Just because she works for a particular facility and that facility works closely with the hospitals and doctors off island - I guess this gives her all rights to inject herself. Also, did she really need to tell the island hairdresser all of my inlaws personal situation and going ons? Its been too much. It's a sad day when my MIL gets to take some time for herself and goes to get her hair done and the hairdresser knows her whole story and his too. Tomorrow my inlaws will be skipping church because this caregiver has been talking to people there also. Its annoying and wrong. I think you nailed the nail on the head when you said the interconnections with caregivers, patients and healthcare providers. I am not sure how to navigate this or what to do. I know one thing for sure ----on a positive note - because of this caregiver we are more involved than we ever have been - I am glad my FIL is home and seemingly doing well. My MIL is letting us help set up better and safer conditions for them and she is also having the caregivers in 5 days a week for 6-8 hours. I am keeping a log book on all of this and if things continue we will have to take some sort of action. Seems like she is crossing a line to me. HIPPA for sure - telling the hairdresser - SMH
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The caregiver is overstepping her bounds - hairdresser and church members??? If she is hired through an agency advise them about what is happening. If she does not come from an agency I would contact a lawyer and get his/her advice. I am assuming she does not work for them anymore. Perhaps a letter from a lawyer would curb her tongue. Good luck.
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Thank you for your responses. It was good to get some different perspectives on this situation. Most important is the care for my family. Second is dealing with this person if they don't back off.
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