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I have no words of wisdom, but I can relate. My mom has not passed, yet. She’s in a nursing home, but I had no real attachment to her, due to her mental illness, and hoarding behavior, that made her unable to be a loving mother. I think though, like you—I will feel some sense of grief when she dies, and I think that’s normal. Whether you had a deep, loving bond or not—she was a family member and was a part of your life in some way. We often grieve what we no longer have, even if we never really had it—if that makes any sense.
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I think what you are experiencing is normal.
Death is sad no matter who died.

Your sadness is just due to the fact there was really nothing of a relationship before and that you probably feel sad that it was like that and now you have to accept there will never be one
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Catlover54 Aug 2021
I think you are correct. I know it will be the same for me when my mom passes.
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4 days isn't much. My relationship with my parents is (was) fine, but I still haven't grieved my dad's death September 2020 from COVID. I *think* it's because I'm so stressed trying to sort out my mom's finances and a job only made tougher by COVID. But I'm beginning to wonder. I interviewed a woman recently (I'm a journo) following up on stories I did 35 years ago when her brother was murdered. She advised setting a day aside to go somewhere quiet and reflect/grieve. IDK that would be helpful for you. I really like the idea. It's finding a day...when I'm not flat-out.
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It's probably the loss of the dream of what you should have had. It's called disenfranchised grief because society in general doesn't recognize the loss of not having a caring mother. I'm just did a quick google search of loss of hopes and dreams. Some of the sites looked helpful. Maybe you'll find something that speaks to you. Wishing you peace.
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OkieGranny Aug 2021
Thanks for posting this. I had no idea there was a name for this kind of grief. I will look it up, because this has been my experience and I don't know quite how to handle it.
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I totally sympathise with you although my mother has not passed away yet I think I would be the same as my mum is a lot of work and had never been there for me so I would feel exactly the same so don’t beat yourself up about it just remember her before she had the illness and don’t feel guilty we all have different ways of dealing with grief so you are not alone take care
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I had a complicated and distant relationship with my mother. We never really connected, in part because of her alcoholism, my brief struggles with alcohol, and the distance I have had to maintain to protect my sobriety since I was 19. When she died I took comfort in the thought that, at last, now perhaps she understands me.

Four days ago is not long. I woukd expect some conflicted and complicated feelings to surface in the coming months. Best to sit with them and allow them to resolve with time.

I don't know how or if you conceive of an afterlife or eternal life but one aspect of that for me is the possibility of being freed from my character flaws, blind spots, and earthly limitations and coming to a place of greater understanding. I find a great deal of comfort in that.
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Yes this happened to me. My mother had a personality disorder ( which I only came to understand over the last 5 years of her life) she died when she was 91. She was emotionally and psychologically abusive to me my whole life and although I was provided for materially she was a manipulative, bitter and poisonous woman. We had one last confrontation ( she was physically frail but mentally strong) and I bit back and drew some boundaries. She told me to get out of her house which I did. We had no further contact. Five months later a got a call to say she was dying in hospital. I never went to see her, I arranged her funeral but didn’t go. I had a bit of sadness but it was for the relationship I had never had with a loving mother not for her passing.
I don’t regret never seeing her again. I was relieved when she died and I don’t miss her. You can’t miss what you never had. You feel how you feel. We all have different relationships with our mothers.
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Nikiniki31 Aug 2021
Can I ask how you were able to figure out her disorder? I’m going though this with my mother and trying to figure it out is very frustrating when the dr sees her for about 15-20 min and I am dealing with her all the time. They aren’t seeing everything.
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I didn't have a very Happy childhood. When my dad was ill with Cancer I hated seeing him in such a bad way and shed some tears then. But when he died I felt relief rather than grief and there were no tears shed at his funeral. I envy people that are so close to their parents but I couldn't pretend I was sad when I wasn't.
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I, too, did not have a good relationship with my mother who died this past December. I don't believe I have grieved her passing so much as her passing has allowed for a lot of reflecting and finally making peace. We all process the loss of a significant person differently. It's been only 4 days for you. It's OK to feel a range of feelings, have a range of thoughts, say what needs to be said (even if it's alone in the privacy of your own personal, safe space) and process these the way you need to in order to move forward in a positive way. It may take some time. My best to you.
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I have pre-grieved my loss of my mother and she is still here, age 92.

SO MANY bad memories and trauma with her--I cried enough as a child/teen/young adult that I don't think I have any tears left. I will have to speak at her funeral, if she ever passes, and I bet I don't shed a single tear.

If that sounds cold, well, maybe I am. Mostly I am so tired of the drama and infighting she's created and the favoritism she's shown the other sibs over me--and the neglect of working on a relationship with me.

I think I always thought I had forever to figure out how to treat her--but she's getting more dotty as the days pass and the little I see her--it's not pleasant and 'fun' it's sheer duty.

I went through cancer and she never once called me, nor sent a card, nor inquired of my sibs if I was OK. (I wasn't, nobody is during chemo!) and it would have been nice to get a card once in 16 months. That kind of cemented my belief that she didn't care much for me.

LOTS of therapy has passed by and I have come to understand that you cannot MAKE someone love you, or even care about you.

You've had a loss, to be sure. But most of the loss occurred before mom died. THAT I regret, as time passes. Mom is too 'out of it' to really talk to anymore and I have no desire to try to connect with her.

I don't have the desire or energy to try to figure her out. Too much pain has passed and I am tired.

Of course there are societal expectations of how we should feel/act. Don't let those get to you--grief is very personal. And everyone shows it in different ways.
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I never had a good relationship with my mother. I was the "after thought" daughter. Both sisters were mom' s girls; i was always a daddy's girl.
Fate, being a fickle b*,tch, left it to me to care for my mom after she had a stroke. No help from either sister.
I took care of her, not out of love, but because of responsibility. I cried a couple of times after she died, but in all honesty, mostly from relief, thinking now I have my life back.
Strangely, I have occasional nightmares, where mom and my sisters are doing something and they won't let me join in. Or they abandon me in a scary place.
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Zdarov Aug 2021
maple, you did the right thing just having compassion, it’s a huge credit to you! I guess we all have a personal archetype of fear in our subconscious. Hopefully you just wake up and say, Phew, not my reality in any way.
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Not me personally, but a friend of mine has. Her father died, and they didn’t have a good relationship. A lot of pain. She at first said that she thought she’d just take a few days off work, and then she’d be fine. I recommended her to take longer, because death is final. There are no more memories, no more photos, no more chances to clear our conscious, or to right past wrongs. Eventually there will be closure, but it might not be a smooth road.

Give yourself lots of time to process.
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I had much the same sort of confusion when my ex died a couple of years ago. I no longer had much love for him, but his death took away a lot of my own past, regrets for what didn’t happen, and a sad situation for our mutual daughters. Things peak, and then they do fade away. Hang in there!
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I think funkygrandma and Joanne have expressed my thoughts. All relationships are unique. Merely being a daughter didn't really define your relationship with your mom. In the Grief Recovery Handbook, James and Friedman write “There are no absolutes in grief. There are no reactions so universal that all … people will experience them.” A person's reaction to a death is largely a function of their relationship. There's a lot that goes into being a parent, and apparently, your mother didn't have the parental skills to help you grow and prosper. So the occasional tear you shed is most likely because of what could have been, or more exact, what should have been.
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My deepest sympathies and condolences. I am so sorry for your loss.

There is no right way or wrong way to grieve the loss of a parent. We all have to honor how we feel and think in the moment.

I never had the closest relationship with my father. I tried to do what I could to make him comfortable and happy but it never seemed to be enough. I never got the words I wanted from him. His passing knocked me down and I was the rawest I've ever been in my life. It's been almost 5 years and there are still days I wish things could have been different. Knowing I didn't fix things before his passing is very hard.
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I had always said that if I were to cry when my parents died, it would be for what never was, and never would be. Both have been dead for years now, and I honestly don't remember shedding a tear for either, nor did I grieve for them.
I am not a hateful person, but actually quite the opposite, but after enduring years of sexual abuse by my father, and my mother doing nothing to protect me, I, after forgiving them many years later, found myself with no feelings towards them what so ever. So when they died, it was almost like they were strangers to me, which made it easier for me.
I am sorry for your loss, and however you choose to deal with it, is up to you. Just don't be in denial.
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Anyonymous1 Aug 2021
Sorry to hear about your situation with your parents.

That is quite similar for me. It feels a bit more than a stranger for me. But more like a distant acquaintance, who I have never forgiven for the past.
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I am so sorry for your loss. May you find peace with what was and that the hope for change is now, really over.

I felt very sad that my dad died. I mourned that there would never be a chance for the relationship to be healthy. All hope was gone, because with breath there is hope for change and that was what I feel like I lost when he died.
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“Thinking of you and wishing you moments of peace and comfort.”

Yes, I have experienced the exact same thing. I mourned the loss of my mama while she was still alive. Her mind had been "gone" for sooo long. I learned early-on during caregiving for her that I was "grieving the loss of the mother I never had." There is a lot more, but I'll stop here.

I wish you well.
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Anyonymous1 Aug 2021
Thanks for your thoughts. Yes, it was a double grieving experience. I had a process of grieving when her mind turned completely to custard about 2 years ago. That was actually worse TBH.
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I think your grief is more the loss of something you never had. Its final, you now will never be able to get that love you had hoped might come about. Your Mom lost out in this relationship too. Think, she never knew how it was to have a relationship withba daughter. Its sad.

Sorry for your loss.
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