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I'm worried. My mom usually gets pretty bad UTIs, so bad that she needs to be hospitalized. I've tried my best to keep her from having one for months, but I think she has one and she has developed her usual confusion that she gets when it's bad.


I'm just so worried about sending her to the hospital during Covid. Like my anxiety is through the roof. I don't want her to catch it there. Has anyone had to send their loved one to the ER? What was it like? Did they catch Corona?


I've been running through options in my head. Her nurse is on her way here, so I'll ask her and her doctor before I send her to the ER, but... I've been through this SO MANY TIMES, that I think it's the only option.

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My father went to the ER in May. Then in turn sent him to rehab. It was there he contracted Covid. Couldn't send him back to AL so now Long Term Care.
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My dad has been, no issues, many precautions were taken by hospital staff and no visitors allowed including family
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If your mother needs hospitalization you aren’t helping her by keeping her away from the ER. Even if she contacts Covid, she still has the issue at hand to be dealt with.
But do take the advice of her doctor.
Perhaps they could test her as an outpatient? I’m not sure from your post if she lives in a private residence or is in a facility. I recently needed blood work for my aunt and asked her doctor to order HH so they could draw blood and other issues. She has had UTI tests through HH as well. So perhaps that is an option for your mom?

I have been in the ER and hospitalized twice during Covid. I felt very safe and all precautions were taken. Everyone including me wore masks. My husband was not allowed to go with me but I preferred that as I didn’t want him exposed to anything.

I was tested for Covid (negative) and your mom probably will be as well.

I think the main thing is find a way to get her the medical care she needs. It sounds like you have had plenty of experience with UTIs so you know they can be fatal.
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Anyone presenting with symptoms of COVID are isolated so if your mom, or anyone has to go to the ER it is safe to do so.
If her doctor is aware of the frequent UTI can you contact the doctor and possibly get a prescription so you can care for this at home?
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Thanks everyone. I ended up sending her to the hospital. Just talked to the doctor over the phone and she does have a bad UTI and they're admitting her. I feel better having talked directly to the doctor.
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AndreaE Jul 2020
Im glad everything worked out ok. Prayers for a quick recovery for your mom. ❤
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My dad had to go to the ER during Covid and was admitted. Eventually they allowed one visitor at a time. I could not stay with him in the ER but nursing staff were excellent and communicated well. It is a very difficult situation but an untreated UTI can be very bad. Can she start antibiotics at home? Can her PCP set up a home health nurse to check in on her?
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I'm sorry to say that it was the worst 2 weeks ever. Communication was really poor. I was allowed to call the nursing desk for updates whenever I wanted but I was totally isolated from my dad. We thought he had a mild stroke or TIA according to his symptoms but had called 911 and EMS felt he needed to be admitted.
I didn't know for 3 days that he had pneumonia. He had spent 2 of those days in a covid ward before diagnosing him. Dad also suffers from some form of dementia due to a traumatic brain injury from a fall 3 years ago. He's 90. I am his primary caregiver.
He was moved from covid ward but was still isolated due to covid conventions for distancing, and in a room by himself. No visitors.
On this ward I found out he was admitted for delirium. He was still very confused, no wonder. His mental health wasn't reported to me except he was a compliant patient. I had no idea what meds he was on except clavulin for the pneumonia.
Trying to reach family doctor wasn't easy either. I had to assume that all was well with him, that he was improving just as they were telling me.
And yes, he did improve and he came home. Because of his dementia he doesn't recognize one day from another, so he didn't know how long we had suffered without him.
Once family doctor got involved I was part of a team making decisions and it was quick how all the facilities were arranged for him to come home.
I was so glad to have him come home.
Overall recommendation to hospital was to include all team members especially family.
If I had to do it again I'd wait and call the G.P.
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I don't know if Urgent Care would handle this, but I think it's possible since I'm sure all that's needed is a urinalysis.    Some urgent care facilities in my area open at 8 am; others in your area might as well, so you might be able to avoid other people as much as possible. 

(I don't like to get up early, but I do now just to avoid all the people who are noncompliant and won't wear face masks.)

When her nurse arrives, she may be able to take a sample and deliver it to the doctor's lab; that way you can avoid going out.   She could also get a script if Mom does have a UTI.    (I've only had one and don't recall what antibiotic I might have been given).

Also, do you have cranberry juice?  If not, get some and keep it on hand.
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My Mom (81 years old) went to the ER twice with her COPD in March and in May. She tested negative twice then sent back to SNF at her Retirement Home. She had contracted Covid 19. Sent back to hospital to Covid floor. They allowed us to call in and video chat and see her. No one could come in. I would stay on the video for 8 hours talking to her while she hallucinated and screamed and yelled to calm her. Watching Covid ravage her was horrible and heartbreaking. She was lucid going into the hospital and the covid ravaged her neurologically. She was screaming continuously day and night " I am dying, Momma, help me! , She was on 10 L of oxygen almost ready for the vent. I told the Doc to not vent her please and do not resuscitate. Its what she wanted. Just keep her comfortable. She passed away 7 days later. This COVID is horrible for the elderly when they get it. It took my most precious possession my Mom. Please keep yours safe.
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AndreaE Jul 2020
Im so sorry for your loss. This is heartbreaking. 😢😢
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We had to call 911 for my MIL with a complete bowel blockage. We couldn't get in to see her. They admitted her and my husband was able to see her once before she went to NH on hospice. She did not get Corona Virus and my husband was given a temperature check and he had a mask, of course.
As far as UTI's go...it would make life easier if doctors would just prescribe an antibiotic if you called. My mom was sent to ER several times when she was bedridden before hospice came on board because her hands off DO doctor wanted to send her to a urologist....she was beginning delirium from the UTI...now how was I supposed to pull off getting her to a urologist a few days later? ER was the only choice.
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My grandma gets bad UTI's and has low sodium all the time has been in and out of hospital 3 times since the Corona virus has been here. The first time they thought maybe she had it and tested her but put her on the virus floor till the test came back. The test was negative so they moved her to a different floor. Thank God she didn't catch it while on the virus floor. But it is hard with her being in the hospital she gets so lonely since we can't visit her and she don't have a cellphone being she don't know how to use it. Also she gets mean as ever when she gets the UTI's yells at the nurses and stuff and we can't be there to tell the nurses that she's normally a very nice lady. My mom just kept in contact as much as possible calling checking on her and with the nurses making sure she's being taken care of. It's a scary situation for sure.
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I had sent my mom by ambulance on June 3rd. Waiting as long as I could. In Illinois, (Joliet area). As MPOA, I wasn’t allowed in hospital. We were given direct contact with her nurses everyday and able to get her updates. After 30 days she didn’t get Covid there. Still doesn’t have it.
she is 83, with dementia, severe hearing loss. Since she had shingles in her only hearing ear. No hearing aides were able to be placed in ears. So we couldn’t communication with mom by phone to well. She had low sodium and that is why I finally had to put in hospital. The first 4 days ready to go to Rehab side of hospital after a week there she did get a UTI and infection was then in urine and blood stream. This took about 9 days to clear up. Then rehab again. Brought her home on Friday, first day we had seen her.
Your parents health is important and unfortunately, if you wish her to survive you might find her needing to go. I wished they had a second alternative. As of the next day the hospital nursing staff just went on strike. Glad to have her home with home health services. She is still as however just as weak as when I had her go to hospital.
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My dad has gone twice, and both times when he came back home I wore a mask for 14 days He wouldn't wear one.I know you can be asymptomatic but that is what I did.
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The urgent Care idea is a good one. A lot of doctors are offering telephone appointments as well. That way a urine test could be ordered and one trip could take care of the paperwork (if any) and test. Thus limiting the LO's exposure to the lab only. Even if hospitalization is necessary, doctors are going to try to do whatever they can to work with you to keep your LO safe. Just give the doctor some warning and try not to just show up in the ER in the middle of the night. It's easier to keep people safe when there are several places to put them and more staff to take care of them.
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Yes and it’s awful. But you better send her NOW - you can’t mess with a UTI!
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On Day 1 of the coronavirus shutdown I took my 90 year old mother with Advanced Dementia to the ER. We were the guinea pigs for a rural hospital and it was an ordeal. We had to stay all day and then she was admitted that night. Thought it was a UTI but turned out to be Sepsis and a week later was transferred to Assisted Living. I have not seen her since that day but visit thru her window and call. It was very difficult with her severe anxiety but got thru it. We did not get infected with Coronavirus. I prayed a lot and took every precaution I could think of. That’s really all you can do - what if it is not a UTI and something else ? What is the best choice for her ?
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Yes, I did and for the same reason. I was terrified during the overnight and two days she was a the hospital. She did come home just fine. Our local hospital is being very careful. Just maybe her nurse can call the Dr. and get her some meds.
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My mother had the same problem. They sent her to a “clean “ IE no COVID cases hospital. She was there a week . She then went to rehab, again a clean area. We couldn’t visit either place. We brought her home since she then went to hospice, the the whole situation exacerbated her dementia for
my mother and she passed away but not due to COVID. My stepfather went the exact same route 4 years ago, that’s just how dementia can work.
may be different in a rural area but the hospital systems here( NE Ohio) have pretty rigid requirements to keep Covid out of some hospitals just for things like this . That’s why family can’t visit etc and they won’t take patients with Covid symptoms or allow family even in the building if they are at risk to having it . I had to wear a mask( I do anyway) and get a temperature check and answer a long list of questions just to get into the rehab facility to sign her paperwork.
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We recently went to the ER in Florida when my hubby injured his finger. They did a temperature screen, verbal questionnaire about COVID exposure, give each of us a mask and hand sanitizer before entering ER. It worked out fine and everybody wore masks.
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Yes, we went the 3rd. They were busy. Trying to keep people 6feet. Ev everyone Had masks. They weren’t allowing visitors but I was adamant. Her confusion made my presence necessary. What I thought was returned uti. Instead she has shingles. Apparently any infection can give confusion.
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Yes, I had to send my mom to the ER and she was admitted during this horrible time. It is hard. Her doctor was there when she arrived and I was connected to her nurses and they called every day with updates. Does your loved one have a cell phone? Make sure she has it with her as well as the charger. I also armed my mom with hand sanitizers and masks. It gave me a sense of security. You can ask what is your hospital’s procedure of keeping family member connected during this time. . I understand how you feel. I was a mess. However, just like you-there was no other choice. They tested her for COVID19 (She was negative) and kept her on a floor with other patients that tested negative. Keep the faith.
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My mother actually fell and we had to call 911. They came and took her to the ER to have her checked out. This was in the middle of covid . I was sick about it! When there she had some tests done and they discovered a UTI. .....when I came to get her it was dead in there. I mean no one but the nurse and a security guard. Both wearing masks. My mom had one on as well. I was relieved.
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I had to take my daughter to the ER in mid-June. This hospital, and I have read that many others, have created separate units for screening and treating COVID patients. They do not come through the ER at all. As was Zoelove's experience, the ER was empty--3 or 4 patients in a unit with 20 beds. They did allow me in the back with her (wearing a mask of course and and after a temp check) but the front desk suggested to my husband that he go home and come back when she got discharged rather than sit in the waiting room.
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JacJac Jul 2020
I'm a cardiac patient with asthma, diabetes, epilepsy, etc. I am/was terrified of COVID. Even with extreme chest pain, SOB, and being a nurse myself, I prolonged going to ER for five days. I was screened at the "outpost" door, subsequently admitted to ICU away from the COVID patients, but had to pass their area to transport to radiology. It was and is still scary, but my hesitation almost cost my life. My husband was not allowed to stay, though we live far away. The floor medical staff did not wearing PPE- until I requested it. Had I not been a nurse myself, I don't know what other safety measures would have been overlooked. No, I haven't let them know my medical background. I'm too gratefully relieved to be alive and back home.
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My wife has been to the ER twice, been admitted to the hospital 2 times, and had 3 surgeries starting March 30. She has been in a SNF since June 19 after 3rd surgery and 6 day hospitalization.
No COVID so far.
However I did get a call for SNF last week that 2 employeesthat had contact with her, had contracted the virus. I guess I won't know what her outcome will be for about 2 more weeks.
I was able to go to pre-op with her for all 3 surgeries. The first, neck surgery, on March #0, There were only 2 to 3 max family max in waiting room.
2nd surgery June 8, spinal surgery, maybe 25 in waiting room. She was admitted overnight.
3rd surgery, June 16, spinal surgery to remove a blood clot from surgical site, I was alone although this surgery was after 5 p.m.
Masks were required to enter hospital, only one visitor per patient.
No visitors at rehab SNF.
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I had to send my dad and fortunately he was able to be released. He did not get Covid and I was allowed to stay with him.
Many extra safety precautions were in place for cleanliness.
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I would rather worry about caregivers coming to house.Worked as caregiver through agency Senior Desires from mountain view CA and my coworker night shift came to work sick.She was lying it was alergies pneumonia and then I was told she was covid 19 positive.Thanks God since day she came severely sick to work she didn't come inspite agency try to send her back few days later claiming she was feeling better.In hospital you just follow rules mask gloves and try to don't use bathroom.Dont stroll corridors stay in a room.Medical personal is very contious about using PPE.So are emergency techs and firefighters.Not getting help at emergency can be life or death sytuation so it's better to be safe than sorry.
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Most hospitals are being very careful about keeping COVID and non-COVID treatment areas separate. Do you have to go in through the ER or would your mother's PCP arrange for a direct admission? You are equating "hospital" with "ER," but doctors can arrange direct hospital admission if they believe there is medical necessity.
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Yes...My mom has chronic intestinal blockages, due to scar tissue build-up in her midsection area. Head really been a learning curve, as to how to handle this and when it's necessary to get her to the E.R. asap.
She had am episode that I knew would need medical care to correct and I know how you feel. I was horrified. Of all the awful timing, right in middle of a pandemic. :0( very frightening. More so for me, I think, than mom.
I was allowed to be with her, both of us with masks on, in E.R. but then they had to take her mask off, to put hose through nose, and down into gut to ciphen-off yucky stuff that was not going through, due to the blockage. I was in despair. I do all our errands and everything for us, out in the public. I only go when it's, completely necessary, and always wear a mask. When I come home, always sanitizer in car before entering home again and again inside house, before touching anything inside. Anyway, very careful and cautious, but at E.R. all my efforts went right out the window when moms mask was removed. I cried behind my own mask and prayed a lot when she was finally admitted and taken to third floor for 4 days. They let me come yuko send get her settled in, which wad more than I expected them to do. But then I was asked to leave.
Itwas scary and hard to do add my mom suffers with memory troubles and dementia. I am always by her side to get her anything she wants or needs, but head to leave her with them.
Theywere ALL very professional and safe with her care and in constant contact with me, regarding her status those 4 days.
It'sfrightening but I can tell you, at some point, all you can do is your very best, then turn the rest over to
Papa-God. Nothing takes Him by surprise. :0)
I felt guilty leaving her there, but I also had an English/Comp II term paper due... so the time to laser-focus on something other than my precious mom was needed and appreciated.
My thoughts are so with you.
God be with you friend. Hugs.
Kk
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Yes in the middle of night in March in nyc , my 88 yr old mom.. she tested positive for virus and was hospitalized for 5 days and then home sick for 6 weeks.. my anxiety was thru the roof and I wAs ill also
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If your urine is cloudy , smell bad you experience pain going to bathroom or have light fewer so it might be a UTI.Should not wait to see doctor.UTI can be fatal.
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