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My MIL (67), who has been living with us the past year, had a stroke and has lost function in her left arm and struggles to walk independently (she has to be supervised when walking so we have to do everything for her). Healthcare team isn’t sure what her future looks like but she will be doing OT and PT in hopes to improve. In addition to the current stress and fear of the future, I am 6 months pregnant. I work from home so I am with her for most of the day. His brother lives 3.5 hours away and is unemployed but always has an excuse for why he can’t come and help her with tasks that she needs done (move across the hall so we can create a nursery). My husband works away from the house so we have a caregiver come for 8 hours a day to relieve me, but I manage all of my MILs appts which is A LOT. This became my responsibility since I work in healthcare and best suited to do this job. I don’t mind doing it but it’s a part time job and can be a lot at time.
Anyways, she’s only been out of the hospital for a week but my resentment is starting to grow. It all started with my BIL since he hasn’t been willing to help. She needs to go through bins and make room for the nursery but she is prioritizing her “wants” vs needs. She’s always been a hoarder so I imagine she is having a hard time letting go of some of her items BUT these items are just going to her storage and we will deal with it 6 months down the road when she is hopefully better and we have more time on our hands. She’s been “packing” since May. The clutter is driving me crazy. I walk past this room every day so it’s irritating. She also always calling out for my help when the caregiver is here so it kind of defeats the purpose of having one. She wants me to go to Dr. appts with her but I put my foot down with my husband and said the caregiver will be taking her or he can. I’m saving sick time for maternity leave, anyways. I tend to take on more than I should out of the kindness of my heart so I’m trying to find where to draw a fine line.
Long story short, I’m going into full blown resentment mode and my husband and I bicker about this stupid storage and getting her clutter organized and out of the house. In addition to full time work and being pregnant, I am starting my second year of my master’s program at the end of the month. My plate is full. I know I need to take a step back to have my husband take on responsibilities after the caregiver leaves for the day. I want him to see how much work this really is and I kind of feel like he needs to get to a breaking point to see how what changes we need to make. I want to nest. I want to enjoy the last 4 months as a family of 2. I also want the first few weeks of being a family of 3 to be alone. Regardless of her improvements, I want to bring up to him that my MIL should/needs to go spend time with family (they are all 3.5 hours away) so we can focus on ourselves, be alone and enjoy the first moments our child’s life, just us two. Prior to the stroke, she never left the home so we don’t ever get to be alone at home. I don’t know how he will feel or if my BIL would like that idea but I need it. Due date is 12/23 so I’d like her to go 12/1-1/31. I feel that would be best for our marriage and my sanity.
How do I support my husband without making him feel like I’m am purposefully not trying to help and how do I bring up the conversation of his mom visit family for the holidays so we can have some time alone? What if she doesn’t get better? I’m just scared for the future and don’t want to put extra tension on my marriage. I know it’s only been a week but I hope the resentment doesn’t get worse. Selfishly, the joy of pregnancy feels like it’s been robbed. Putting her in a home is not an option. It’s hard to have love for her like he does when she isn’t my mother but I want to be a good supportive wife and DIL. She is sweet, kind and a widow. I feel for horrible for having these feelings.
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You are in your nesting stage of pregnancy. Your hormones are prompting you to create a place for your little one. Ina practical sense, you could have the baby a month early and the baby would be fine - if the necessities were ready. Most pediatricians recommend the baby spend most of the first year in the parents' room.

BUT, you could use the feelings you have to pressure mom - and everybody else - to make room for baby now. Have that room cleaned out by end of month. Then, get that room ready the way you want. Realize that you will have to do the work and that should give you enough excuse to not do other tasks. Just, realize that you are not pregnant forever and those other family members are your allies, not enemies.
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Reading the responses, I am happy to see that you and DH (dear hubby) have set a firm date for his mother to move out. (YAY)

Please stick to the date, and be ready to pack her up and deliver her to her new digs back in her home town.

Some thoughts......

What is it with these parents who want to move in with their grown children? I would rather live under a bridge than disrupt either of my grown children's homes with my presence and have them end up resenting me.

You said that your MIL is furious. Let her be furious. Her anger is hers, not yours, and you need to let her have it. If she is too angry, then she may want to move out earlier than October 31.

You are NOT asking your DH to choose between you and his mother. That's just incorrect thinking. He already chose you when he married you, and he MUST get that straight if he is going to avoid destroying your marriage. If he is struggling to stand with you in solidarity then HE has the problem - not you.

Your MIL may be sweet - and that's nice. She may be a widow - that's not the end of the world - there are millions of women our age (I'm 65) who are alone. As a matter of fact, my daughter is your age (31). I can confidently say that my daughter would not have her MIL - or me - move in for one day, much less indefinitely, and I think that's the best way to be. It bypasses all of the upheaval that you're dealing with.

Of course, your DH and his siblings have the responsibility to see that their mother is provided with the care that she needs, and that can be anywhere. He needs to be a man - it's time - and carry the load himself instead of letting it fall on you.

Peace.
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She is robbing you of enjoying your pregnancy. A heart to heart with hubby is in order. Your family (of 3) is the priority now. Hoping he will come to his senses and put into action moving mom out. You deserve normalcy and peace of mind.
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Ok so you’re against her moving out to a home
that doesn’t leave too many options to address a now overcrowded home
nah e a rethink there
brother in law isn’t going to change and you’re really not honey get a reliable source of help from him
a typical I’m ok jack pull up the ladder character
a person with strike needs a lot of care
your hands sound on over flowing levels
We can all reach our level of what we can cope with then it’s breakdown or feel very angry and tvat generates negative behaviour which then has a domino effect
maybe approach the family with a plan n update you can’t cope with her and if they are unwilling to take their share of looking after m-i-l then she will need to go into care
a good deal of people with a stroke escalate to more health issues
Of you are struggling now it can only get worse
can you cope
tine to sit down with hubby and have an honest talk about how you feel unable to cope anymore and it is time for assisted care help
she will prob get more care and more quality time with loved ones as they visit instead of looking in it as a chore
you need to have that talk before it really affects your health
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I'm sorry for what you are all going through, including your m-i-l.

My mum had a different type of stroke - a cerebral haemorrhage at the back of the brain - so she didn't have the weakness on one side. However, due to resistance to her doing anything that she found difficult on the part of her husband, my mum never became independent again. Mum was 63 when she suffered her stroke and 76 when she died 3 weeks ago.

I loved my mum, but I had to remind myself that she always chose to side with her husband, right from the start, and I had no choice but to take a step back. I was not going to break myself when I couldn't fix her.

There is no guarantee that your m-i-l will regain her previous health or abilities. Do you want to become her full-time carer?

Just like you starting out on this new phase of your life, your m-i-l has a chance of a new chapter opening. Previously, she was stuck in at home - probably lonely and anxious. In IL or AL, or even a home (if she leaves your house now), your m-i-l could find both security and friendship.

She won't want to go because it's new and we're all afraid of the unknown. Especially a woman who has kept the familiar around her, by never throwing things away.
You and your husband need to be cruel to be kind. She's like a fledgling bird that needs to be pushed out of the nest.

I take it this is your home, and that you're not resenting your m-i-l being in her own home. If so, you need to stop being the supportive, understanding wife; you need to be the level-headed partner who can see that this situation isn't working.

Neither you nor your husband can provide the long-term care needs of a woman recovering from a stroke, especially with a new baby on the way. So, you need to be firm and tell your husband why the situation has to change.

Once you are both on the same page, you don't give into the emotional pleas (though please understand why your m-i-l is so scared of change) and you don't have unreasonable expectations.

Don't expect your m-i-l to be capable of sorting things out - she's had major trauma to her brain. Don't expect your in-laws to take over care duties - not everyone is suited to it, and it's not mandatory. And don't expect your husband to immediately understand why you cannot continue like this - it's hard to accept that you cannot be there for the parent who was there for you.

You may have to stop care duties altogether, until he sees that the situation is untenable.

On that note, you absolutely shouldn't do anything for your m-i-l while she has a carer there. Say you're busy, pretend not to hear, leave the house, anything other than giving in to expectations, especially while you're expecting!
Same for when hubby gets home from work - he has made his mother his responsibility, so he has to deal with caring for her.

I hope for both your m-i-l and for your sake that you find a suitable placement for her where she can get better and regain her independence.

Hope everything works out for you.
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What about skilled nursing and rehabilitation? Does she qualify for Medicaid? Spend down assets. Your husband needs to compromise or your marriage is doomed.
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I have Parkinson Disease and cannot drive. Social Security found me disabled but NC wouldn't give me SSI because of my husband's retirement accounts. I am home bound because of it a depend on my husband to take me to the doctors and everything. I use a cane and a walker because I have a tendency to fall. It averages about 1 fall every 1 to 2 weeks. The last one that was bad I fell in the street and cracked my head open. I now wear a button that I push when I need help if I need it. We moved to SC and my husband retired so he can take care of me. I don't know where to go in finding out if we can get paid to take care of me. Oh, I do get retirement that there is no way we can live on.
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JeanLouise Sep 13, 2024
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She should have gone to rehab after the stroke. that would have given you the opportunity to move the things in her room and make it into the nursery that you want.
I have to ask...has the future been discussed. Not future like 3 months, 6 months but 12 months, 18 months, 2 years?
MIL should be contributing to the household. MIL should be the one that is paying for the caregiver. MIL should be paying her fair share of mortgage, utilities, food, and any other household expenses.

You should not be feeling horrible for having these feelings. This is a time when you and your husband should be planning for an exciting, frightening time in your lives. You now have the added fear of caring for an older woman with health concerns. (And MIL is pretty young this could go on for 20, 30 years!)
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I think MIL did go to rehab, now at home PT or outpatient PT stage.
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I'm relieved for you and respect your plan. Stand firm on the exit date for MIL in October.

I also agree with Alva that going to couples counselling now would be so helpful to you both during this transition. Couples counselling would minimize the stress you and your husband are going through, alleviate any guilt feelings, and put you and your husband in better sync so you BOTH are comfortable standing firm with MIL moving to her own place in October. You shouldn't have to be the only one that's setting limits and navigating the future. You need your husband to get on board with you as an equal partner and an effective advocate for you, baby(congratulations!) and himself. The three of you are the priority and deserve to enjoy growing your family in peace and joy.

Couples Counseling is the way to do this!!
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You should not have to take on this extra work and responsibility.
If your husband wants his mother in his home, he should be the one to take care of her. Tell him that this is putting too much stress on you and that you can not continue this way.

Do not expect your husband's siblings or any other family member to take her in.

They do not have to. She can stay in a short term rehab facility. If she improves to the point where she can be sent home, she can go to her own home.
If she is unable to live independently, it is not any family member's responsibility to take her home with them and care for her 24 hours a day. She can be transitioned to long term care, whether assisted living or skilled nursing facility.

You are already feeling resentment. Do not expect that to get better! Tell your husband your marriage will suffer if he insists on allowing his mother to continue living with you!
If you continue taking care of her needs, this will not be a temporary living arrangement. She will never leave! Unless you put her out.

You are not being selfish! It is your husband who is being selfish. And if he chooses taking care of his mother over his marriage, he will regret it! Long term care of a loved one is so much harder than anyone expects it to be! It will suck all of the joy out of his life! And yours, if you let him continue to use you as his mother's caregiver. Tell him it is not your responsibility, and you will not do it!
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I’m glad to read your update, and am sorry you’re under this undeserved stress at what should be a happy time. Agree, your MIL is being selfish. Please give her the date with firmness and no excuses. I wish you the best getting this changed
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UPDATE 9/10:
I’ve set a firm deadline and told my husband that his mother needs to move out by 10/31. That gives her 7.5 weeks. We haven’t officially given her the date yet, but we did tell her she needs to go, and she is furious. We still need to talk with my brother-in-law, and I’m worried he’ll try to pressure us into extending the timeline. By then, I’ll be 32 weeks pregnant, and I already feel like we’re being generous. My husband is ready to stand up for our family, but if he had his way, he’d choose the path of least resistance and let her stay. I’m standing firm—there’s no way I’m going to let his brother dictate what we can and can’t handle.
Our main reason for pushing her to return to her hometown is that she has a community of family and friends there who can support her emotionally and mentally. If she stays with a family member, others will be nearby to help, which we don’t have here. Given her history of isolation and avoidance before the stroke, this support network will be even more crucial now. She needs to be surrounded by people her age who can relate to her situation. We’ve also suggested she stay there for at least a year, though I know she won’t like that. She’ll need home health care, outpatient therapy, and clearance from her neurologist and PCP before even thinking about independent living again. As far as her moving back here after that? That’s not in my plan—not in a year, or two, or ever. She can’t place this burden on her youngest son and our new family. I can’t imagine trying to balance a toddler and caring for a disabled adult, especially with her lack of left arm function and potential mobility issues.
Even if by some miracle she fully recovers, her time here has come to an end. I thought she would be more understanding of our decision. I know she’s dealing with a brain injury, but instead of seeing what’s best for us, she’s focusing only on her own needs and complaining that it’s unfair. As a reminder, she was never supposed to live with us for more than 9-10 months. She backed out on her original plan, which I didn’t foresee, and then when we found out about the baby, I agreed to let her stay longer. Now with the stroke, plans have changed again. I didn’t raise a fuss when her plans shifted and she wouldn’t be here to help with the baby. But as soon as I make a change on my end, I’m suddenly the villain.
There’s no winning. I’m exhausted—I can’t sleep, I cry almost every day, and now I’m physically sick. I just can’t handle the stress anymore. Thank you to everyone who’s shared advice and offered support—I really appreciate it.
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Fawnby Sep 10, 2024
Good for you! Stand firm on this. It's not your job to make her happy, heal her from her stroke, or provide a home.

Urge your husband to get her out in about a month. You've given her way too much time during which she can freak out, fret, make promises she has no intention of keeping, and so on.

As an aside, you don't need anyone to help with the baby. You and husband will handle it just fine, and it's better not to have someone else around in the first couple of months. They can really get in the way. It's your first baby, and therefore you don't have other kids to take care of. Enjoy!

Buh-bye, MIL.
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To the OP: please stop beating about the bush when talking with your DH. You need to tell him, flat out, that you cannot handle this situation any longer, and that you refuse to for the safety and well being of your baby. (BTW: HOARDING IS A FIRE RISK.) And then DON'T put up with it any longer. You don't have to be mean when you say all this, but you need to MEAN it and be firm. Then you have to GO AWAY for about 4 days and let DH see what all is involved in taking care of his mom. Go visit your mom; you need some nurturing right now, it'd be good for you. Even if you can only get away for a couple of days, DO IT. If your DH doesn't experience what he's imposing on you, he'll never understand. He needs to see that your job and your time (and your sanity) are just as important as his and that you cannot (and will not) continue like you have been doing. Then (you and your hubby alone, while caregiver is with MIL) go visit some local senior homes (AL) and see how nice they are. It only takes about an hour. I've done that for myself recently and plan to move into one as soon as I can, and I haven't had a stroke or anything debilitating. I just have really bad arthritis and need a LITTLE help, and I am alone and know aging does not get better; it only gets worse. But once you see now nice the senior facilities can be, then pick one and put her in it. She must pay for it, not you. If she can't afford it, check into programs that might help. Or arrange for her to visit her family, take here there, then never pick her up. You're going to have to do something definitive and drastic in order to save yourself and your own family.
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You could try the angle of how a newborn might affect MIL in her efforts of rehab.

A newborn doesn’t just arrive and everything is happy and wonderful. A baby disrupts any household for quite a while. They cry loudly, poop, don’t sleep when you want them to. Could be feeding problems or constipation or colic. You’re not going to be feeling good for quite a while. Like nobody told me beforehand how much pain I’d have afterward and how giving birth would make my hip joints feel like my legs had been pulled off and stuck back on like some hapless Barbie’s! And people coming over to see the baby, OMG just leave us alone! And your MIL is going to have to try to live and do her therapy in your home with this constant upheaval going on? NO.

If only she’d understand that AL isn’t like it was when toothless old granny went to a nursing home back in 1906. I visited one the other day. No one wants to need assisted living but if I were in your MIL’s situation, I’d much rather be in that bright and cheerful place than living with a newborn screaming all hours of the day and night. Plus its sleep-deprived and crabby parents.

About MIL stroke recovery, the aftereffects may include (just when she’s started to remaster skills like lacing her shoes and walking better with a cane) contraction of muscles so that her arms/hands draw up into the classic after/stroke posture. Or one foot or both start to drag. Or can’t remember words. These things can happen months after the stroke and can be a setback worthy of going into a nursing home. No one may tell you this because they don’t want to scare and depress the patient or caregivers. They should prepare people for this possibility. I was quite dismayed when I was caring for my family member stroke victim and contractions started happening. It’s painful for the patient, and for the caregiver it means more work, as in “I wish I’d never taken this on.”
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Did she go to rehabilitation from the hospital? If not, I would be asking everyone involved to please get her into rehab. This will be her best bet at recovery sooner than later.

I would encourage you to read up on what stroke recovery looks like, what type of issues can arise from a stroke, like depression and dementia, to name 2.

Again, please try to get her into rehab, at her age, she should qualify for an actual rehabilitation center geared towards nothing else, unlike a rehab in a nursing house.

So very sad for everyone, good luck getting her the care she needs.
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Caregiver93 Sep 6, 2024
She was in inpatient rehab at the hospital for 2 weeks. She will now be doing home health OT/PT and speech for 5 or so months and then we will plan for her to do outpatient therapy.
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“She would rather die than be put in a home”! Rubbish! What that means is that she has to ‘put’ herself in a care facility because that’s her best option. Or else die, which could be the best solution all round – but perhaps don’t point that out to DH.

My older sister has had no use of her left arm since a stroke she was 26, and her sons were 4 and 6. Limited use of one dragging leg, she picks it up from the hip. She types, uses the computer, ran her own accounting and auditing business for 40 years, ran the finance side of my BIL’s engineering business (and made them a lot of money), organised her house and kitchen so that she could manage. Aged 80 and with more problems, she now has a carer for an hour bed prep night and morning, and a friend/ carer who is with her three mornings a week and does the cooking. Of course she has a walker, plus an electric wheel chair when she is out. She does NOT ‘have to be supervised’ and she does NOT have everything done for her. I think that you are underestimating what your MIL can learn to do for herself, and that is not a good move for you or for her. She won’t ‘recover’, but she will learn to cope – if that’s her best option rather than being waited on.

She may be sweet and a widow, but she is NOT being kind. Don’t kid yourself! ‘Sweet’ is better than ‘nasty’, but it can also be manipulative.
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MargaretMcKen Sep 6, 2024
Just thinking about the 'rather die' threats people make - not just about being 'put' in a 'home', but allowing carers into their own home, hands-on care from people from a different culture, go to jail, etc etc. If it worked, it would be a really really simple way to avoid doing anything you didn't want to do.
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I have a sibling who’s a hoarder. We’ve done the clean out twice, only to see stuff come back almost immediately. It’s a compulsion and not one the hoarder generally has any desire to change. I also had a mother survive a series of strokes. What I didn’t know then, that I do know now, is how frequently strokes are associated with depression in their aftermath. Combine hoarding tendencies with stroke associated depression and you have someone who will always be unmotivated to organize or clean out. There will be promises of “soon” or “later” but there won’t be action. Meanwhile, family members are taking complete advantage of a pregnant woman’s kindness to a woman who isn’t even her mother. And you feel selfish and horrible? Please reconsider and look at this with a fresh perspective. You both need and deserve a break and a peaceful home in which to live and welcome a baby
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Caregiver93 Sep 6, 2024
You're totally right. She had depression (that she won't admit) prior to the stroke so it's only worse now. Prior to her moving in, I didn't really know her. I saw her a few times but she kept to herself throughpit my husband and I's dating and in the early years of our marrige. She is still technically a stranger to me, it's not like I've had years of bonding with her. I appreciate you telling me it is okay to feel this way and how it important it is for me to take care of myself. My mom has been a huge support and agrees that I need to set boundaries and talk to my husband about my MILs future. If we don't find a solution before the baby comes, we are potentially putting our marriage at risk. We have been married for 8 years and while his actions due to the health of my MIL could be the straw that breaks our back, I can't imagine how devestating it would be to get divorced because of this. We just bought a beautiful home last year and expecting our first child. The joy has just been ripped out of me. I believe my MIL would do everything to prevent this from happening and accept whatever help we can arrange for her, it is just a matter of approaching my husband in a way where he doesn't feel like I am making him choose. At the end of the day, that is the choice he has to make whether I say it or not.
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You are about to have your entire world, as you know it, upended with the birth of this baby.

Esp since it's your FIRST baby and they tend to make a greater shift in the family dynamic--no matter how much you PLAN--nothing will truly prepare you for the onslaught of emotions and complete and utter change that a new little life brings.
(Not meaning to sound negative--just realistic! Having my 5 babies was and is the best thing I ever did--but it did come with a price, as anything of value does).

You really need to have as much personal space with just you. DH and baby as you can. SO MUCH of the initial bonding takes place in those first few weeks, and they are precious and special. You don't want someone else constantly in your face. My Grandmother lived near us when our first was born. SHE came to ME and would take the baby and walk with her, or rock her, while I took much needed naps. She also left a delicious meal behind and she LEFT after a few hours. THAT was helping.

What your MIL can do to help is probably negligible--if she doesn't have full use of her arm, she's going to have to be 'watched' while she holds the baby. How is that helpful? Needing almost as much hands on care as a new baby? How is THAT helpful?

You're lucky that she is a sweet person. That alone will make this 'easier'.

BIL who is not employed should be brought into the picture. If that can't be made to work, then MIL can move to AL. It's NOT a death sentence, it may actually be better for her to be receiving PT and OT on a regular basis.

The hoarding is a whole other issue and if you don't get that nipped in the bud, she will take over your entire house. I've seen it happen way too many times.

This is ultimately on your DH to handle--he needs to be sat down and talked to with no sugarcoating.

Most people will say "AL is NOT an option" and then come to find that it not only IS an option, but it's also the best and most workable.

Good luck with this. Please be careful with YOURSELF. You need to come first right now.
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Caregiver93 Sep 6, 2024
Midkid58,

Thank you for your kindful and honest comments. I am the oldest of 5 and have a good idea of what to expect with a newborn but even then, it will be a whole new journey as a parent. I am not sure my husband has truly understood that yet and my BIL made a joke saying this experiance is "preparing us for the baby". I didn't take it personal but it shows how disconnected he is with this whole situation.

Unless my MIL makes a full recovery, she really won't be helpful with the baby. Her HH OT/PT said she will never get full function of her arm again and will need adjust to her life with only use of one arm. So, I won't be able to nap, do school or even go to the grocery store and trust that she can watch him if she doesnt have function in her arm. So no, she won't be helpful. I know she will adjust to a new lifestyle but I will likely never trust him with her alone for the sake of their safety.

I am done stressing about this hoarding and storage thing because unfortunately, it's creating a lot of tension between my husband and I when it not an urgent priority. Also, the baby isn't coming tomorrow so I don't technically need the room. I just want to enjoy the nesting and creating of the nursery part which is why I have been obssessing about getting it taken care of. I have accepted the fact that I need to extend the deadline I have gave her given the 4 week set back.

She has said she would rather die than be put in a home so you can imagine how that makes my husband feel. I also don't know if she could financially afford it. After her stroke, my inital thought was to send her back to her home city (3.5 hours away) because her son, siblings and other family members all live there. There is so much more support there, both physcially and mentally but we aren't sure where she would go. As I mentioned, I want to have these conversations with my husband and accept the support her family members is offering to see what we can do. Its just fresh and a touchy subject for all of us.

After the coversation about her arm today, I feel defeated. Homehealth will be in my home for at least 4-5 months in hopes that her walking will improve, which they believe will happen. I dont want strangers in my house when I have a newborn but luckly her care can be trasferred if needed. I feel sick for wanting to "send her away" but I dont think my husband or his family is grasping the fact that we have a newborn coming soon and there's just no way to do both. I will be lucky if I dont get postpartum depression after all of this and if we can't find her a new temporary home....
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How to support your husband?
Really? When it is YOU doing the work?
I am afraid I fail entirely to understand your thinking.

Time to go to counseling with hubby, don't you think?
You have told us quite a lot. Have you discussed with HIM all of this?
Because that is step one.

And if you HAVE discussed this with hubby, what does he say?
I would add, when you DO discuss with him, that you remind him that mother may live another three decades. Your little one will be by that time all grown up, and with little ones of his/her own.

You tell us that you work in health care. I am an old retired RN. So, say no more. You already KNOW the skivvy here and you already KNOW what your future, and the future of the child you are responsible for, will be.

Now you have decisions to make.
I would try to make those decisions WITH hubby and MIL. At best. If not, then with YOU and hubby.
If that doesn't work, then I would tell husband that you two need to go to counseling, and if he refuses that I would file for a legal separation and leave the home. I think his hiring in help for about six month would be edifying for him. If not, then in 6 months I would file for legal divorce. I would tell hubby I will help him, remain his steadfast friend, and co parent lovingly. But I cannot do what currently is expected of me.

Now I have told you what I, as an ex RN with two BUSTED marriaged and one long term relationship (37 years) with a steadfast partner, would do.
What YOU will do is on you, and up to you.
I am afraid, by ever allowing this move in to occur, you have painted yourself into a corner that is going to be very difficult to get out of without a lot of honesty, and a lot of pain and tears for all involved.
I am so very sorry.
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AlvaDeer,
Thank you for you comments and honesty. I did leave all the care after the caregiver left to my husband for the last two days (not spitefully) and today he said he couldn't do this for long. We had an honest coversation and we both understand eachothers frustrations. He will not put his mom before me but I dont want to put him into a situation of "choosing" until we have given it some more time. Afterall, it's only been a week since shes been home and her sudden change in health has been something we are learning to adjust to; however, it's been 4 weeks since her stroke so we have techincally been dealing with the stress for a month now.
When my spouse and I actually have a moment to talk, it makes things feel easier. He is trying to stay positive but I am trying to stay realistic which is kind of where the barrier is. I don't want to make any major decisions yet but I want us to have things lined up for when we do finally get to a breaking point. If we wait to make decisions when we've reached our breaking point, it'll be even more stressful and decisions may become irrational. I don't have high hopes for her gaining left arm fuction again, but if her walking can improve and she can walk independently, then that will take a lot of stress off of us... but that is TBD. Again, making a miracle recovery by the time the baby comes is not likely and I am not willing to take care of his mother and our new child when that time comes. I am pretty set on sending her on a, what I will phrase as a "vacation" (which is true), a few weeks before the baby is due. After giving ourselves to my MIL for a while, we deserve to take care of ourselves too.

I am afraid of involving her in much of the decision making because she shouldn't have autonomy over what we need. The "going on vacation for a few weeks" will not be an ask, it will likely be a demand. She is someone who needs a lot of direction and will make a decision but then back out of them. The less room we allow for her to make decision while she is in bad health, the better for us. My husband is just kind of in this "i feel bad for her" phase, which is totally understandable, so I need to be gentle but practical with him.
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Right now you are a family of 3 not 2. Soon to be a family of 4. MIL is only 67 so she will be living with you for the next possibly 30 years.

Its your's and your husbands house so you both should have the last word about hoarding behavior in your home not MIL. If she wants to be a hoarder she should move out and get her own place to fill with junk.

You can't organize clutter and a person with hoarding behavior is never going to willingly get rid of stuff. Give her a date and tell her after this date everything is going to the storage unit and stick to it.

Your DH needs to bear the burden of his mother not you since he loves her so much he can't possibly put her in a home or facility or make her find affordable senior housing.

Welcome to hell. MIL isn't leaving and DH resents you for wanting her gone and for not doing all the work to take care of her.

One tip when hired caregiver is there you do not do anything to help MIL. If she asks redirect her to her caregiver for what she needs.

You have a husband problem and the resentment is just going to grow and grow. Good luck. I hope I am wrong.
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A few ideas:
1) MIL hires a storage container from a storage facility (we have oodles of them around here), all her ‘stuff’ is picked up by workers she pays for, and goes into the container – ready for her to deal with in 6 months' time.
2) MIL gets a choice of other places to live. She pays. It may be an apartment and she may need carers as well – or she may choose AL or a board home. But she goes and she pays.
3) You forget about the family. If they aren’t on board now, they won’t be – unless perhaps MIL living somewhere else spurs them into action, which is possible. But don’t wait for them.
4) You DON’T pick up the tab when the caregiver goes home. Make the carer’s last job for the day to be setting MIL up to last without help for at least a couple of hours. Depends if necessary to avoid toileting. You work with earplugs in. H takes over when he gets home.
5) Cull your ‘part-time job’ managing MIL’s medical appointments. Many older people have too many ‘repeats’, different things can be combined, made less frequent. Many older people actually enjoy lots of appointments – outings, focus of attention etc. Be ruthless.
6) Think carefully about postponing your second year of your master’s program. I can’t imagine it working well with a new baby and sleep deprivation, let alone with all of this hassle as well. It may be better to postpone than to fail.

Good luck! Don’t worry about losing your temper a few times. It’s more constructive than being a doormat. Yours, Margaret
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Margaret I like the idea if moving MIL into the storage container and out of the house. LOL.
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There is no reason why you and dh should be on the hook for this any more than dh’s other family, especially given your present condition.

Consider offering bil some $ to have him consent to moving mil and her problems in, At least that keeps her out of your domicile which you need to alter for the upcoming baby.
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Regarding being a Stroke Survivor:

While the most gains happen with the first weeks, slower improvements accross cogniton & mobility can still be made for 2 years (even more if someone works hard at it). Unfortunately, arm mobility has a poor recovery rate.

In fact, some therapists don't talk about recovery as a 'return to previous function' at all, but as a new path to 'the new normal'.

If MIL is independant to walk, toilet herself she may be suitable to return to her home, with many supports to for what she needs assistance for eg Personal care for shower assist. Home supports for meal delivery, cleaning, laundry, maintenance. Maybe an accountant to manage bills/finances.

However, if MIL needs assistance to walk/toilet she will need supported living. This can be very burdonsome for family members to provide themself, unless very fit, retired & financially able. For a young couple about to become parents, a shared home could work IF the home allowed for separation for privacy (eg a Mother-in-Law suite) & money for aides to provide the bulk of the care.

Even so, taking on the 'management' for a dependant person is a BIG job. Sometimes a Geriatric Care Manager Service can be employed, but the bulk will still fall on family. (I know only 67 yrs is not 'geri' but it is retirement age & therfore should fall into 'elder care' services).

I think the Husband probably needs a good reality check. The OP may be so efficient he has been cushioned so far.

I often suggest a weekend away, with a relatives or friend (two week even better). Not for MIL, but for the Wife.

Then the Husband can get the hands-on experience he needs to open his eyes.

With his new insight, he then sits his Mom down & you all have an honest chat about her future.
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Q. "What if she doesn’t get better?"
A. Then she doesn't get better.

"Putting her in a home is not an option."

It usually is. (Unless you live in a country without any Aged Care Homes/Nursing Homes).
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What was the original plan?

🦸‍♂️ Step in to assist family in a health crises?

🏠👩‍⚕️💰 Offer ongoing 24/7 support & housing?

These are very different things.

Many have swooped in to help in the short term (with best intentions) but then realised they need a better longer term plan.

Superman didn't fly in, scoop his Mother up, bring her home & expect Lois to look after her very high care needs, for evermore, right?

Superman would ensure a person (even his Mother) was in a safe location, with trusted people to take over.

This man needs to do that.
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I hate to say this but it doesn’t seem likely that BIL would agree to your plan. As you describe it, he’s been happy to do nothing. And do you really want to return to the status quo in February?

“Putting her in a home is not an option.” Says who?

Something needs to change.
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Hi Snoopy,

I will phrase this proposal to my husband as my MIL going on vacation for the holidays. It is totally normal for parents who live with their children to go on holiday to visit other family members and children. My husband didn't marry his mom and promise to take care of her for life, but he did make that promise to me. The last thing I want to do is make my husband choose between me and his mom but I am confident in this decision regardless of how well she is doing 2 months. It would be good for her mental health to mingle with family and it would be good for my mental health to have some alone time with my husband and child. In terms of his brother, it's not going to be an ask, it will be a demand. If he doesn't want her at his house for 8 weeks, he can arrange her to stay with family for a few weeks but he is unmarried and currently unemployed (not by choice, rather the job market), yet we are taking the grunt of the burden. He can make a sacrifice for his brother and nephrew. I hope this works and I want to phrase it this vacation for my MIL as a positive thing to allow us some space to care for ourselves. Any advice re: this conversation would be helpful!
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You're entitled to enjoy your pregnancy and your family! The problem is that you want to support your husband, but you can't do that and also get what you want.

You've got the right idea here: "I know I need to take a step back to have my husband take on responsibilities after the caregiver leaves for the day. I want him to see how much work this really is and I kind of feel like he needs to get to a breaking point to see how what changes we need to make." 

So there's not only the problem that you want to support your husband. Another problem is that your husband doesn't want to support you. Yup. He's probably incapable of it. He's all caught up in mother-love and what SHE wants. Not what YOU want. Stop wanting to support him! Why WANT to support him when doing so is in direct opposition to what you want and need?

Sure, the Wife Manual Version 101 says we're supposed to be supportive to our husbands. Move on to Version 102 where it says that we don't have to support them when they're being jerks.

About sweet kind MIL. You can expect the stroke to have many effects on her long-term health. One of the things she probably cannot do is organize and pack. It's almost certainly beyond her. So ditch that expectation.

So sorry, OP. I've done hands-on care for a stroke victim myself, and it's very hard. You shouldn't be doing this. No one should expect you to do it. As for her visiting family, chances are they aren't prepared to take care of her once she gets there. Despite your statement that "putting her in a home" isn't an option, better rethink that. Stop thinking of it as "putting her" somewhere. Go look at some ALs and reframe your thoughts to "we need to help her find a place where professionals will care for her and she'll have friends and a social life."

Good luck, and I hope you have a safe delivery of your precious baby.
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