Here is what happens in a situation in WI outagamie county. When a person is elderly in there 70 's a concerned person or party neighbor is allowed to call the aging and disability department phone number in the county for concerns regarding a person or the person's appearance -the way they act in public if they have accidents in their pants due to not wearing an adult protective product to not want to admit age or due to pride and dignity. A neighbor is able to call the phone number report a concern to the department for the age group not showering when it is a condition that the tub is too high for them to get into to shower. Any calls that are made to this number causes seniors to be have a report made and crisis intervention done. An exam done by a pysch. Labels put on my Mom and Dad for life. Their assets sucked up by corporate Guardianship Golden Care Management Services in Green Bay.
They were then removed from there residency and put on the most restrictive measures by the county. Adult Protective Services ruled in court protection custody. All their freedom was taken away. To be put in Community Based housing due to the corporate Guardianship using all the money up. Darboy Community Living
My Mom and Dad do not have down syndrome, this is for cognitive disorders the ad on the website is not the way the wards are housed. The Corporate Guardianship didn't know anything about the facility my Mom and Dad were being sent to, the Guardian ad litem didn't, nor did the judge.
The judge decided that that was the way it should be.
With all this being said Corporate Guardianship is wrong the message needs to be known.
Never Contact or Have anyone contact the Adult Protective Services in a Community or County they're not helpful.
In a crisis situation the county will take advantage not help. There is no turning back.
There are always less restrictive ways for elders to enjoy living life in our community. Free without limits with respect, dignity, and care . There should not be labels, restrictions or misconceptions of what a person should be, how they should act, fit into society's mold. How thy appear by a psychiatrist observation. Or what they think a person may or could be.
We are all human not robots.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nG2pEffLEJo
As did AARP
https://www.aarp.org/caregiving/financial-legal/info-2018/court-ordered-guardianship-separates-family.html
I think Godislove is just informing us all that corporate guardians can make decisions that the family feels are not in the best interest of the ward.
But several other people took the time to try to respond to a rambling, incoherent post that is difficult to comprehend. And now you write that "all who have read it" have "misunderstood it."
I've read your initial post again and still can't figure out what you're writing about. And the many questions asked were not addressed by you.
And I find that offensive to those who tried to comprehend and help you. I agree with WorriedinCali as well as those who asked for clarification and didn't get it.
There's a lot of individual and collective experience here to be offered. Please have the courtesy to show posters the respect they're due.
In my and others on the forums experience, APS and Social workers try to do their best, to the point of threatening in some instances, to get family to take over the care of a relative/s. We have a thread going where even a friend is being asked to get guardianship. The last thing the state wants is the financial responsibility of 2 people. SWs need no additional cases so getting family involved is their priority.
So again, my question is where were you when this process was going on? Did you tell the powers that be that you would care for your parents? Where have you been that you did not notice the mold or that parent could not maneuver the tub? I know, parents can be very stubborn but if things were this bad, you could have called APS for help. Explaining that parents were in a dangerous place and you needed help getting them to a safer place.
So, there is more to this than you have posted. Again, if you feel that you would be a better guardian, then petition the court.
The reference to Down Snydrome made me uncomfortable. There are a lot of people who have DS that can take care of themselves and live. With everything you describe, there seems to be some cognitive decline. A person who rather soil themselves in public than wear Depends has a problem.
Whaddayamean, ONLY?
Incontinent, self-neglecting, disabled by inadequate medical treatment, repeated calls to the emergency services from the address - and you're still convinced the judge was overreacting?
I think you must be pulling our legs.
When social care workers visit older adults' homes because there is concern for their welfare, and they find that the older people are unable to use their baths because of mobility or safety issues, they have a number of options to try. These could range from a simple bath board, as long as the person is able to lift his legs over the edge of the tub, to having the whole room converted into a wet room, with a fixed track hoist and wheelchair access if need be. Nobody is removed from their home simply because they can't step into the bathtub.
But if the actual problem is that the elders are not showering not because they can't manage the tub but because they have lost the ability to decide when to take a shower, no amount of adaptations will help. These people need support for their activities of daily living. Where were you?
And when the county petitioned for guardianship - where were you?
For the record, and by the way: people with Down Syndrome have the same human rights, including those you list, as any other people.
where were you when all of this went down? Did you try for guardianship at that time? Clearly your parents needed a lot of help that they weren’t getting. The court doesn’t just award guardianship and there is nowhere in this country where a Phone call is enough for this to happen. The phone call got the ball rolling but obviously there was a lot of merit to what the caller said in order for this to happen.
Are you ready to take on the care of your parents? Can you supply a safe home or facility? Meaning its set up for their needs. Can u monetary care for them if u need to?
I think u will probably need a lawyer and go to court to overturn the guardianship. This is not something u can do on your own.