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My mother in law (MiL) suffered a massive stroke and is paralyzed on the right side and incontinent and can't communicate much. My DH wants to leave his job to move home to be her caregiver either at her house or to visit her daily if she is discharged to a nursing home or assisted living. She used to live by herself. He is adamant of his decision whether I move with him or not. I neither speak the language nor have a job if I move with him. I offered him that we visit his Mom once every 2 weeks as we live in a different country from his Mom (~1.5 hours flight). I am torn and don't know what to do. I don't want to devote my life to care for his Mom and feel rotten for not being able to support my DH with his wish. I will also likely lose my marriage as I don't know how to maintain a long distance one with no end in sight. I moved from the US to Europe to be with him leaving my aging parents in the US. I still live with that guilt as I put my marriage over taking care of my parents. I am still taking care of my parents long distance and flying back and forth the US to see them. Thank you very much in advance for all the advice!

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Your husband has out you in an awful position.

How will you eat? How will you pay bills? Is his mother going to pay him a salary? How will you save for YOUR future needs?

I’m sorry this is happening to you.
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I am so sorry. Your husband clearly has made his choice, and that choice is not you. Were I you I would recognize that it is time to leave a marriage that clearly has little to do with love and respect at this point. I would move back home. I would not move in with my parents, but would be available to share their love as they live independently while they can, and when they move on to care. I would make a life with good friends and joy and possibly with new love in the future. I wish you luck.
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AT1234 Feb 2021
As always, straight to the point Alva. Well said.
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If this is recent there are too many variables to make a firm decision. There are people that do make long distance marriages work, perhaps instead of deciding on the marriage now you could give it a trial period.
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You once made the hard, but correct choice in placing your marriage above any perceived obligation to aging parents. Your husband is making it clear that he won’t do the same. I’m sorry for that. Very mixed up priorities on his part that will certainly challenge your relationship’s survival. Please don’t move to live with or near hubby’s mother, you’ll remain a distant second. If he can’t see your value, I hope you will
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My heart truly goes out to you. I know I will get lots of hate responses but it is very natural in Europe for the "children" to take care of the parent when needed. I don't think he feels like he is deserting you - he just feels like his mom needs him.
(I assume he is an only child). Most likely, he doesn't realize the magnitude of care she will most certainly need. In a very short while, he will learn that he can't possibly take care of her alone, and will most likely put her in a nursing home. With Covid-19 rampant, will he even get to visit her everyday like he thinks he can?
Stay where you are, you have a job and parents of your own that you tend to when you can. If your hubby insists on going, let him work it out on his own. Be supportive on your own terms. This is a situation with an outcome that is impossible to predict right now, but I think will work itself out in time. BTW, last year my ex-MIL had a massive stroke after Covid-19, was paralyzed on one side, couldn't talk, wasn't eating, and was put on hospice. She is now eating, talking, regained partial strength on the damaged side, and is off hospice-she is 95. So you see - you never know!
Have faith and don't listen to the haters, always go with your gut!
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Couples should really talk these things out before they tie the knot. That should be added to the marriage vows in my opinion. I guess taking care of the in-laws is part of the better or worse but I made it clear to my hubs from day one that I would never move in with the in-laws under any circumstance. Granted once I met my in-laws I knew that I would rather live on the streets than live anywhere near them. My hubs goes back and forth from our place to theirs and I stay out of it.
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He is thinking with his heart, not his head.

Sounds like a passionate immediate knee jerk response on his part. I must help Momma, I must go now! Maybe this is what you love about him, his family values, his sense of duty?

But being Superman flying to rescue his Mother will leave his Lois Lane to fend for herself.

If you love your Superman - set him free. Would it be possible to give him a little time to work out where he will fit in his Mother's health crises?

Could he;

1. Discuss & plan that you will both have the finances to meet your obligations (rent/mortgage, bills, car, insurances, food etc) while you are separated?

2. Put a time limit on his assessing the situation he finds once there with Mother.

3. Put a time limit to decide his plans: to either find a permanent care solution for his Mother (not him) & return to you OR decide he will stay indefinitely & set you free.

It may be that he turns up, is devestated by her loss of health, they cry & grieve together. He tries to do everything, fix everything, then realises he cannot actually fix the stroke. Only time can (IF it can). He may then see it is Mother that needs to change HER life. Needs to move in with local family, or into care. Then he can adjust. 'Trial of Care' it is called.

I believe marriage is not all black or white. You have hit a grey patch. A challenge that hopefully, with continued good communication, you can get through.
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As he hasn't grown up enough to realise his life partner becomes his number one priority when he got married, and still thinks his parent(s) are his main responsibility I personally would go home and be close to your own parents. You obviously come second and for me that is not acceptable when you are expected to make all the concessions, it isn't a partnership - leave him to his mother and make your own life where you are comfortable and can do what you feel you need to to be happy and available to your own parents.
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Oh my. Please buy and read the book, When He's Married to Mom: How to Help Mother-Enmeshed Men Open Their Hearts to True Love and Commitment
by Kenneth M. Adams Ph.D. and Alexander P. Morgan.

He sounds like a son whose mother made him an emotional partner as this book points out, Silently Seduced: When Parents Make Their Children Partners by Kenneth M. Adams PhD

He's been groomed this way and is going to be tough to break. His being adamant about this sounds much like my wife and her mother before she got freedom via therapy and my not putting up with it. I had my own problems with my mother which never got resolved until she began her own decline and the memories came back.

Whether he goes or not, you need the support of a therapist and it would be nice if he'd join you.

I must run to a PT appointment, but I will be back and keep up with you. I will be praying for you. You are not alone. We have had people here who are married to men just like your husband.
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I don't know how things are in the country where your husbands mom is regarding Covid, as you say he would want to visit her daily if she went into a facility, but here in the US, most nursing facilities are still locked down, with either just window visits, or no visits at all, so realistically he wouldn't be able to spend time with her anyway.
I am sorry that you married a man that wants to put his mom before you. It's ok that he wants his mom to get great care, but that can be done by others, and not at the expense of your marriage. Sounds like he's already made his choice when he picked his mom over you, so that in itself should tell you a whole lot. Get yourself a good lawyer. Best wishes.
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gdaughter Feb 2021
this is so sad. I fear your response is realistic, but the stress this poor wife is under...and then throw in the legalities. I just hope it all works out.
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I want to thank everyone of you for taking the time to give me your valuable advice. I'll keep working with him on this for the next few months. I like my MIL so I am trying to come to a way that I can also contribute to helping her. It feels rotten to ask him to live with me rather than her.
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BarbBrooklyn Feb 2021
Flower, you say that you moved away from YOUR parents in order to be with him.

Why should you feel rotten to ask to be put first? I strongly suggest some therapy.

When we marry, we pledge to put our spouse and our children first in our lives. Not our parents.
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Please get yourself therapy. You've done nothing to be guilty about. I'd bring that guilt up with the therapist early for it does bear on this issue you're dealing with a lot. Get and keep yourself on a healthy path regardless of what he does or does not do.
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You've got yourself a Mommy's Boy there. Sounds like you need a man.
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Bonnie2222 Feb 2021
Your no better
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Well your guilt for leaving your parents is yours
I feel you don’t have the same love as your husband had for his
and you feeling are not strong for him
he’s best going without you
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PatsyN Feb 2021
Wow. That's heartless and brutal. I feel like I'm on Facebook.
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If your husband doesn't put you first, it is time to move on. No time to dilly dally. Start your next chapter of your life today.
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I’m so sorry you are going thru this. idk if this will help or not, but I separated from my husband last year after he spent so much time sending nothing but vile, hate msgs & phone calls to me while I coped with my terminally ill father. My mom needs me now, he is in England and I’m in America...I know when the time comes for his parents he will be there for them, and expect me to also. But after all the vicious words and threats he has made I don’t think I can ever look at him the same... he has a double standard for what I do and what he does, and it sounds like your husband sadly is the same... i separated from him because I am too drained to figure out international divorce atm..
unconditional love is what should be; not double standards and cruelty. I hope whatever you decide makes you happy; you deserve that 💖
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Tothill Mar 2021
Usedmisfit, I am sad to hear that your husband decided to act like a donkey's rear end when you were providing care to your dying father.

Some things a marriage cannot recover from.
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Most marriage vows help the newly married couple to understand that their marriage relationship takes priority over every other relationship. The next priority relationship is with your children - until they can become independent adults, and followed by parents.

I can understand your husband's anguish with his mother having had a massive stroke and needing a lot of care. However, I don't believe he understands the amount of care his mom needs 24/7. Every 2 hours, she will need to be turned in her bed, will need to be checked for skin problems, and and need to be cleaned if she voided or had a bowel movement. If she can not swallow, she will need to be fed via a tube with a liquid nutrition. If she is awake and he intends for her to regain abilities, he will need to exercise her limbs several times a time. Of course, she will most likely need to be bathed in her bed, dressed in her bed, and linen changes done in her bed. Getting her into a recliner will require a lot of physical strength since she will most likely not be able to bear her own weight. There are devices to help with these tasks. Depending on finances and resources in country, those devices may be harder to source during a pandemic or not available at all. In short, 1 person will not be able to provide all the care she needs. If there are nursing homes in her country, that would be the best option for now.

As for the visits, he probably wants to be near her since he fears she is closer to death, With COVID, she is at greater risk of not surviving. He would hate to not see her while she is alive. You probably have similar feelings since you travel to see and care for your parents. It might be wiser for him to fly to her for an extended visit - 4-6 weeks - to make sure she is set up with all the care she needs and to "visit." He can also catch up with any family members there and arrange a visiting schedule so mom is seen by family throughout the week. Once that is arranged, he will probably feel more comfortable resuming his work/home life in the U.S.A... and making arrangements for frequent trips to see her.
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499HopeFloats Feb 2021
This is great advice that OP should consider printing for her DH to read. It might give him a more realistic day to day image of what “caring for mom” might mean. Kids often have a Hallmark image of what that looks like.
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The fact that you are voicing the question here, means that you know you should not be put in this position. It is a big ask and sounds like you won't be in a good place if you agree to go.
I feel sorry for all of you but your marriage should come first and sadly your husband isn't doing that.
Usually I would suggest making a list of pros and cons but it sounds like a fairly clear choice.
Why not let him go and see how it works for him. Maybe he will decide it is too much and too hard to be away from you?
Good luck.
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Wow you are certainly going through a lot.  If you don't want to quit your job and move to another country where you don't speak the language to be a caregiver...then don't do it.  That is a lot to ask of anyone.  If the roles were reversed...would he do it for you?  I feel like he is making a knee jerk reaction to the situation.  Why doesn't he see what kind of care she is really going to need and see if she gets placed in a long term care facility first.  Then he can make decisions about moving vs. visiting.  Seriously, what if he quits his job and you move there and then she passes.  Then what?  It just seems like a drastic move with limited information.
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He made you leave your family and the country for him. Now he wants you to move again, and become devoted to caring for his mother. And you will probably be the primary caregiver; he'll be too embarrassed to bathe her or change her Depends. Does he give you anything (affection? respect? conversation? decent sex?) or just demand complete obedience and devotion? This doesn't sound like a well thought-out plan, and he doesn't sound like a great husband if he can't be bothered to ask you before he makes major changes to your lives.
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Isthisrealyreal Feb 2021
He didn't make her go to Europe and leave her family, it was a choice she made.
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When did MIL have the stroke?
When do you (you plural, I mean all involved) need to have a plan in place? - that is, is she expected to be discharged to a rehab or intermediate care centre, straight home, or what, and when?

If the stroke happened within the last week, and your husband is panicking, I suggest you make no decisions of any sort but just make soothing noises along the lines of "let's wait and see." Will his employer not allow him extended compassionate leave? What country are you/is MIL in?
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Been there except MIL lived in our home. She too had a massive stroke that paralyzed her right side, after already living with us for 2 years. Taking care of her forced DH to help out because it's more than one person can physically handle on their own. She could swallow but was unable to communicate except for ya or no. Daily sponge bath, new sheets,blankets, spoon feeding with a baby spoon so not too much at one time, pureed food, water via a medicine syringe so she didn't aspirate, diaper changes, swabbing mouth to clean it, exercising arms and legs multiple times a day to prevent muscle atrophy, turning as best as possible to avoid pressure sores, dealing with multiple mini strokes daily, she lasted 2 weeks in this situation before passing. I was surviving on 20 minute cat naps during this time. We did what we could do for her to make her comfortable. Your MIL could pass quickly or she could be this way for years to come. I really don't think your husband has actually thought through how much care she will need. Does she have a DNR? No feeding tube etc.? How does he plan on caring for her without assistance? We were blessed to have had her on hospice when she first moved in with us and they had taught me how to care and move her safely. Does he have any resources for information pertaining to her care? Can your MIL afford to be moved closer to your home where job can be maintained yet he can still visit her every day? This would give her the medical care she needs 24x7 and remove some of the burden from the two of you. Not an easy situation either way. He expects you to have zero financial stability because instead of losing 1 paycheck, there would be zero income. Think very hard about your decision and do what is in your best interests. Sounds like he is being reactive instead of thinking things thru and assessing what long term ramifications would be.
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Ok- a problem- but... could be short term. Maybe bear with him for a while until he can figure it out.I certainly wouldn’t rush to the thought that he loves her more than you, think of it in the terms that she is helpless and you aren’t in dire need. This is actually a good sign that he will take good care of you when the need arises. In the meantime, go see your parents. I believe all this will work itself out and you two have many more good years together. Please don’t compare his love to her and his love to you.
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Wouldn't do anything for a few months and see what happens.

Stay where you are and let your husband do what he needs to do and wait and see.

Have you thought about having her move in with ya'll and having a Caregiver care for her?

Prayers
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Maya Angelou said “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time.” He already got you to follow him once and leave your parents behind. Now he wants you to follow him again and leave your current life behind, plus be in a place where you don’t speak the language and will have trouble building a new one. He will insist that you take your “turn” caring for his mom, and will get support from friends and family while leaving you isolated. He’s telling you loud and clear where you stand, and it isn’t next to him..it isn’t even one step below him...is that what you want from your time here?
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You should not allow yourself that undeserved guilt. We all need to leave our parents and establish our own households. That is part of growing up. There may come a time when you move back to your parents, but right now your life is about you.

Giving your husband the benefit of the doubt, he may be over-reacting to the situation for emotional reasons of his own. Give it a few weeks. Support his need to go to his mother for now, but stay where YOU need to be and let him work out his own issues. Right now it seems that his views of his own duties to parents are a far cry from what he expects of you concerning your parents. It seems a bit hypocritical that he has no problem with you caring for your parents long distance but HIS mother needs around-the-clock attention. He could snap back into normal once the shock is over. He may not.

If you cannot remain in your current home on your salary alone, begin looking to downsize, but do not sign anything for a week or two. Your husband may realize that daily care of his mother is not something that he can really do. If he does not come back home within a couple of weeks you may want to think about moving back to the city where your parents live. It seems that your husband is making all the major decisions in your marriage and you only react to them. If his determination is fixed, you would be better to care for yourself first. I cannot imagine that you would find any happiness caring for your mother-in-law in a country where you would be totally isolated.

Although there are times in a marriage when family or work must take a temporary precedence over the marriage, that must always be temporary. If your husband continues to insist that his mother and her needs (or his perception of them) are more important than your marriage, he has told you all you need to know, I think.
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I think it is a lot to ask of you. I, like your husband, recently had to go through the difficult time of deciding how to to take care of Mom, who also went through a massive stroke and paralyzed on one side... Your husband may have gone through the same thought process that I did. The thought of taking Mom home did cross my mind. The thought of Mom dying alone was scary. I felt overwhelmed with responsibility and consumed with guilt of not being there for Mom if I wasnt trying my best. I did not expect my wife to take on the burden and preferred to handle it alone. My plan was to have Mom in the nursing facility near home and stop by frequently. Mom slowly lost cognitive function and passed away a short time after entering the facility. I was overcoming with grief and yet, sadly, relief. My advice is to not make any drastic decision and give yourself time. Things will always work out somehow.
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Your husband wants to do right by his mother and I appreciate that, but he doesn't really know what becoming her caregiver will involve.
You should put him onto this group because he will get a good education on what it's really like. Please show him this post. I'm making this lesson one of his caregiving education having been an in-home elder caregiver as a job for nearly 25 years and am currently one to my elderly mother. This is what he can look forward to.

His mother had a debilitating stroke that left her paralyzed, unable to communicate and incontinent. Almost always a stroke like that for an elderly person also results in dementia. To be honest it is unlikely she will even live for much longer. My elderly father had a stroke leaving him much the same condition as your MIL. Before it happened he was in remarkable health. 90 years old and still living independently, driving, golfing a full course twice a week, and still on his bowling team with guys 20 and 30 years younger who couldn't keep up with him. He had the stroke, went to a nursing home and died a few months later. He survived it, but never recovered to where he wasn't a total invalid. Your husband needs to consider this before leaving his job and uproot not just his life but yours too . Give up his home, his employment, your employment, his friends and social life, and probably his marriage to take care of his mother who will probably pass away from the stroke complications and if she doesn't right away will end up in a nursing home with professional staff, trained in invalid care because the two of you won't be able to provide the 24 hour care she needs.
This is what your husband can look forward to if he moves the two of you into mom's house.
A house that always smells like urine and feces no matter how much you clean. Feeding, bathing, changing diapers, dressing, repositioning, transferring, and more dirty laundry then you've ever seen in your life. Every single day. Seven days a week. Even holidays. Not to mention that unless her home is already handicapped accessible, bringing in contractors to tear the place up to make it so. Otherwise the only people who will be able to physically get her out of the house will be paramedics. What happens if there's an emergency like a fire and you have to get her out?
Sure, you can bring in some aide care and that will help out some, but unless mom or the two of you are rich, the amount of hours a day she will need will be very expensive.
The logical solution for you in my opinion would be to have her discharged to a nursing home /LTC facility that is near enough to you that your husband can get there daily or several times a week.
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worriedinCali Feb 2021
It’s not logical to have MIL discharged to a facility closer to the OP. It would require moving MIL to another COUNTRY!
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Quitting a job and leaving a spouse to move in with his mother is an EXTREME reaction. Your husband has made his choice and it's not you. Men such as your husband are momma's boys. You cannot cut his apron strings for him or he will resent you. The sooner you accept that marriage isn't his priority the better. Live the life that *you* want to live whether that's in Europe or in the U.S. You cannot maintain a marriage by yourself. Sorry.
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my2cents Feb 2021
This may also be a cultural thing and nothing to do with cutting an apron string. He cut the string when he moved to and lives in another country from where mom lives. Now he feels mom needs him, maybe he's the only child or the only family left for mom, and he wants to go home. Nothing wrong with that.
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You know what popped into my head as I read the short version of your post? The episode of EVeryone Love's Raymond where Marie had brought a big chocolate cake over, and Ray and his brother had forks and were pigging out on it when Marie I think called and said how they better leave that cake alone etc. And then she huffed across the street approaching the kitchen door and Ray hollered RUN! SAVE YOURSELF!
So wait a sec...she does not even live in your same town? And you're expected to uproot any semblance of your OWN life to become enslaved with caring an incontinent inlaw? Not to even mention the burden on your finances of biweekly flights? Yeah, this is definitely a lose/lose situation, but maybe not...MAYbe mom doesn't even want her son OR you as caregivers?
I'm really sorry for the position you are in...especially with the stress of knowing you are caring for mil whom you don't feel connected to nor want to care for while your own parents may be struggling back in the US.
My recent experience has colored many of my replies here of late...but if we don't take care of ourselves, nobody else is going to! I tried hard to take care of my own elder and frustrating to the nth degree parents, and still am to a reduced extent. But the end of September, healthy me just didn't feel very good out of the blue. I felt weak as well. In the end my life was turned upside down. The rescue squad got me to the hospital which sent me by helicopter to the main campus of the Cleveland Clinic where I only learned recently how I arrived close to death, and had emergency surgery for an aortic dissection. Scary thing that comes on suddenly with no warning but can brew over time with blood pressure being a contributing factor. Don't let that happen to you. I have never been married but can imagine how stressful and upsetting it would be to break apart from someone I loved enough to marry....I think you need to establish some clear boundaries and guidelines for what you can and what you want to do for this MIL, as well as your own parents who deserve equal time in a way. What is your husband willing to do for THEM? Maybe some seeking out a counselor to help mediate through this; so someone is there to advocate for you life and needs as well? Look, your number one goal is to stay alive and take care of YOU. And sometimes we know within ourselves what we need to do. Sending hugs and holding good thoughts...and don't forget this one: You know the airline warning...you put your OWN mask on first should it be needed, before helping others, because otherwise you wouldn't be able to. Wishing you all the best...I would help btw with finding local resources to help them, set up a plan for inhome assistance, hoping there are some...
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