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I'm exasperated with my elderly mom. She used to live with my sister, her husband and two kids in the US. I'm in Mexico with my partner on a small homestead. Unbeknown to me it wasn't working with my sister. I know my mom is a difficult character. They more or less threw her out and I picked up the pieces helping her sort her life out. Neither my sister, her kids nor my other sister or her son speak to my mom any more. She's also fallen out with her only cousin.I offered my mom to come here, but since our place is only one bed she could stay in an apartment locally or live on site in our large and comfy 5th wheeler with all mod cons. She wanted to be on site so she could help in the homestead, with the vegetable garden, be in nature etc etc.I said she'd need to be competent on her phone as it's her only link to the outside world, plus she'd need to look after herself and be independent. Our terrain isn't suitable for someone with poor mobility.She's been her six months and I've got no more emotional energy left. She sits inside all day for days, does nothing, then I tell her to go for a walk and do some exercise and the next day she's out trying to walk miles to the nearest village. It's one extreme to the next. Then I have to talk to her about moderation and pacing and she's in tears and the victim and I'm the bad guy. She wears a fleece, heavy jeans and hat in 75F and I suggest she change clothes and gets some sun and then she's out with no protection, suncream, hat, or drink in 95F midday sun for hours and I have to tell her to go inside and we have tears again because I tell her she's being irresponsible. She's a university educated and professional woman. Because she said she wanted to participate in the garden, I gave her her own small 2mx2m area for pleasure and experimenting, but she did less than zero over three months and it lay empty, so when I brought it up she was out the next day for hours in inclement weather, until after dark and I have to intervene. Then everything was a struggle... the hosepipe is too heavy, the nozzle won't turn, the watering can won't do, the fence is too difficult to open.. what I'm trying to say is that everything was a struggle and she constantly complained, huffed and puffed, so we took the area off her hands and then there was a huge drama because she loved doing the garden and is devastated because it's been confiscated. Nothing is right... The leaves falling off the trees, the pollen on her car, the dirt on the ground. I live in the countryside. She wanted to come here.Her van has a cassette container for black water that needs emptying and I discovered she's going out into the garden to the toilet, and during the night. I confronted her and she lied to my face. We have snakes and predators. It isn't safe. She refuses to shower. She's emotional about missing the family when we were all kids 40 years ago. I suggested counselling. She gets mad. I realise she has used me as an emotional support for decades. As a teenager she'd tell me she wished she'd never met my father. She'd say she was leaving us and then nothing was ever mentioned again and I'd be left wondering. When I was eleven she said she might have cancer and then it was never mentioned again and I wondered for years if she was ok. In my twenties she'd offload about my father.. he's a coward, he's a liar, etc.She wrote me a suicide note last year and told me she had had enough and was going to end it. Then when I panicked and responded to it, she said she didn't mean it and I was being silly.I don't know how to deal with the her and wonder whether the deliberate neglect is attention seeking behaviour to draw me into a conversation. I'm unable to reason with her as everything is turned round where she is the victim and she is being blamed.

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I have an older sister that does this type of thing. She will purchase a bunch of things and then expected dad to bail her out financially. This was her dynamic all through life.

Fast forward, she is currently in a rehab and would still call me periodically with nonsense. Luckily for me, I don't have a phone in my bedroom anymore, so if I'm in bed, I'm not getting up to answer a phone. She has all day to call me at a reasonable hour but will wait until ten o'clock on a Sunday night to call.

Her kids didn't want to deal with being her POA and then thought they were going to pressure me into handling her affairs, and I was like no way! Of course, I was sent subliminal messages through Facebook via brother's account, and I blocked them all.

They haven't done a thing for me, but they expect family to come running like dad and brother did every time she had some sort of issue. Last time all of them were at my house after dad died, they caused a big ruckus.

Some people are just spoiled.
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Focusing for hours on opposite issues, sounds more like bi-polar to me.
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I have a VERY similar situation and I thought my mom had dementia for years. She refused to be evaluated so I didn’t have many options. I was convinced that it was dementia though. It wasn’t until she was hospitalized for another health issue that provided the opportunity to have her tested by the psych doctor. They diagnosed her with Borderline Personality Disorder. I had no idea it was a possibility! I know others are saying it’s dementia which is why I wanted to share my story with you. She’s taking a mood stabilizer medication now and things have improved drastically. I think you are brave with unconditional love for your mom. You can create healthy boundaries without cutting her out of your life. Also, maybe there is a way to have the Dr make a house call. Find a way to get her evaluated by a psychiatrist. Best of luck.
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My Mom was a drama queen and seeked attention so when she got dementia I had No idea . Looking Back on it I wish I had Known But she pretended she was fine . Someone said to me " She is very depressed . " I asked her to get a beach sticker, sit in the sun, go for a swim . She started sleeping a Lot . Sometimes there isn't Much we can do . My Mom Passed January 11, 2017 . I Miss her a Lot and think of her everyday .
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Hi and welcome VeronicaD,

Your mom and my mom are probably long-lost sisters. I found the book "Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents" by Lindsay Gibson. It shed much light on my upbringing. Can't change the past, but you betcha' my kids will not have to go through the same #@×! show I and my siblings did!

I agree with the others weighing in - you've given it more than anyone can be expected to give. Time for mom to move back to the USA (preferably), or an assisted living apartment in your country.

Wishing you the best in an unfortunate situation.
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Leave her alone and let her sit inside all day doing nothing.
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You can't reason with someone with dementia.
All the behaviors you described are Classic Dementia 101:
1. Sitting inside all day doing nothing, until it gets mentioned.
2. Not dressing properly for weather conditions.
3. Using outside to toilet at night. Seriously?
4. Lack of regular and normal adult hygiene.
5, Claiming she wants a project, blowing it off, then over dramatizing.
6. Drains a normal person's emotional energy, like a blood sucking vampire.
7. Cries to avoid responsibility, or create a guilt trip (do avoid doing anything but sit all day).
8. Avoids doing anything for herself any way she can, to get waited on.
9. Overreacts to the slightest criticism.

She can be a Phd. and still have serious cognitive decline, dementia, Alzheimers or has had a mini stroke. Until she gets a CT scan of her brain for a diagnosis, nobody will know for sure. You must be present at any medical appt. or will hear lies.
Add that to a manipulative personality, you've got a real problem on your hands.

There's a REASON the other family members have cut her off. Have you directly asked them why?
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Tbh she's been like this her whole life. Especially the bathing issues and overreacting and manipulating. She isn't showing signs of dementia in other ways and her short term memory is very good. Her memory is pretty sharp on many things. I'm not saying she isn't in cognitive decline, but I do think she is depressed. Sh has a history of depression. But she has always refused to see a doctor. She won't go. Nothing I can do will persuade her.
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Your mother needs a full medical evaluation, most especially one for her cognition. She may have dementia, or at the least depression. The environment you live in is clearly not suitable for her. Whatever funds she has, after the family is clear on her diagnosis, needs to be used to find appropriate living arrangements for her. She doesn’t need to live with any family. Your mother may have loved drama in the past, but she certainly sounds like an ill person now, and in need of housing better suited to her needs
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
Thanks for taking the time to answer. She has always refused to see a doctor in the past and her behaviour isn't new. She is adamant she doesn't want to go somewhere else and will not get medical evaluation. She's the most stubborn person I know and when she doesn't want to do something she won't.
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Sounds Like your Mom has the classic signs of Dementia and needs a doctor exam with you Present . I would get her affairs in Order- Power of attorney , Health care Proxy . Your Mom is Not a Drama Queen she Has an Illness which Needs to be addressed . . Very sad .
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
If she refuses to see a doctor there isn't much I can do though. Her behaviour isn't new. She's mentally unwell, depressed and perhaps in some decree of mild cognitive decline, but I can't force her to the doctor.
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Some people are just never happy, no matter what you do for them, then you put an aging brain in the mix and that unhappiness is so much worse.

To be honest, that sounds like an amazing life for an older woman, in many ways. I wish I was your mother, but you can't change her. The old saying about leading a horse to water, but you can't make them drink.

Your not going to change your mom, I think it's time to send her back to, US so you and your family can live this amazing life you built.
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
Thanks for taking the time to reply. It is an amazing place for an older person. Surrounded by nature, animals, beautiful views, peace and tranquility, good weather and delicious organic food. She doesn't want to go anywhere else but all the things she said she wanted to do haven't materialized. When she got thrown out from my sister and I said she could come here, there were a couple of hiccups and she overreacted and said her dream of coming here over the past two years was gone. It had only been six months in the planning. Did she plan it all along? She spoke of the amazing opportunities and new start. All the things she was going to do. I think it was what she thought I wanted to hear. Now she's here. She doesn't want to go anywhere else.
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How old is your mother? It sounds like she could be suffering from dementia because a CLASSIC symptom is refusal to bathe. Urinating outside at night is another behavior that's very questionable and not something a rational person would do. In fact, all of moms unhinged behavior sounds like dementia to me and not just silly manipulative nonsense, although they're often tied in. Has she been to the doctor lately and had a cognitive evaluation??
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Refusing to bathe isn't new. It's been going on decades. Growing up I was never encouraged to bathe or brush my teeth. She'd bathe once a month. She won't see a doctor. She has a history of depression, not diagnosed mind you, but always refused to see doctors.
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Why did you take her in? Her other kids and her only cousin don't even speak to her anymore. Why do you think that is?

She wants to be 'babied' but also treated like a competent adult at the same time. Life doesn't work that way though.

You and your family live a rural life. Your mother cannot cope in that life.

So really you should send her back to the United States or she can get an apartment in town in Mexico. You are not responsible for her. Don't let yourself be guilt-tripped and manipulated into thinking you are.

Stop playing her cute little manipulative games too. Like she does nothing in her plot of garden for three months and then gets out there in the worst weather, so you have to go and intervene. No you don't and you shouldn't have.
You warned her about going to the bathroom in the garden at night. Yet she lies about it and does it anyway. Well, if a rattlesnake or a coyote bites her in the a$$ that's on her, not you.

From what you say here, your mother sounds like a very manipulative person who's never actually been responsible for anything or anyone including herself her whole life. She has through head games, guilt-trips, histrionics and manipulation gotten others to rescue and take care of her all her life.

If you love your mother, and I think you do, do her the greatest favor anyone can give her. Force her to be responsible for herself. If she doesn't like where she is, she can find herself somewhere else to go. If she wants to stay where she is, you stop running to rescue her.
You can help her some if you want to, but don't rescue her from herself and stop playing her games.
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VeronicaD Aug 14, 2024
Thank you for taking the time to reply. I know that if she gets hurt by doing these crazy things it will be me running around taking her to hospital and dealing with the aftermath. I pleaded with her to not do these things, and explained all this, and she does it anyway. She won't see a doctor and doesn't want to leave and live elsewhere despite me saying she needs to live in town. The stress and drama has made my migraine attacks so much worse and I've been in hospital three times in six weeks as a result with uncontrolled vomiting and three days migraines. She pulls herself together whilst I'm recovering and behaves like a normal person, but as soon as she sees me up and about again, the craziness starts once more.
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I think it is time to tell her this is not working out and find her a nice apt in town.
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