My Mom was admitted to a nursing home for two weeks, she fell hitting her head causing her brain to bleed and she died. Can they be sued?

PS. Knowing what I know from following some of his high profile cases, I think you definitely have a case. The lawyers will only take on a case they think they can win. They outlay a large amount of money for medical experts and expenses. If the attorney does not have the money to do this, than they might say no, but would not give you that reason. If the first says no, try a second and a third. Do NOT go to any of those 1- 800 firms you see advertised. Ask friends, google and check case histories. If 3 say no, then you should give up and move on. Sometimes when they are so close to death as it is, there will only be punitive damage as there is no loss of income or pain and suffering for the victim. A law suit won't bring her back, but shoddy care should be addressed to protect others ,as well. Winning damages won't relieve the grief, but it does give you a sense of satisfaction that you did all you could before and after her death. Again, my sincere condolences.

Take this all to an attorney, one who specializes in medical malpractice. There should not be any outlay of money needed. If they think there is a case, they will take their fee out of the award. Proceed with caution here. If a lawyer wants you to pay for her/his time upfront for a case like this, it generally means they don't think that it's winnable. Coumadin? It's what keeps my husband alive, that and the artificial valve and aorta.

My deep condolences on your mother's death.

I also agree that you should see an attorney who specializes in these kinds of cases.

The decision for an elder who is both at risk of falling and also at risk of stroke on whether to use a blood thinner is a tricky balancing act. A stroke on top of dementia would be very detrimental to quality of life. A fall while on a blood thinner could lead to brain bleed or other internal bleeding.

Your mother was on a blood thinner. I assume that is what lead to the brain bleed. Was the NH negligent in not taking her INR immediately and frequently after her fall? I don't know what the standard NH protocol is in such situations. A lawyer would know.

I'm a little unclear on the chronology. She fell at night and then either walked or was wheeled to breakfast and then what? It isn't important that we know, but I suggest you make out a clear timeline before you see the lawyer, including indicating who told you what, including discrepancies about who took her to breakfast, etc.

On other issues, I would sincerely like to think that the tiff between your sister and the nurse had nothing to do with her treatment. Most professionals can and do rise above such distracting personal matters and are able to care appropriately for their patients. It sounds like he did what the doctor told him to do. (In my mother's NH the nurses seldom do toileting themselves, but that is neither here nor there.) If he did follow the doctor's orders about ice on the bruise, I think it would be hard to prove that he personally was negligent. (But I am not a lawyer.)

I would like to hear the results of your contact with lawyers. We learn from each other.

If a lawyer feels you have a case, I wish you every success. If it does not appear a successful case can be made, I wish you success in putting this legal concern behind you and going forward with the normal mourning process for the loss of your dear mother.

Yes. From what you've described, I'd be contacting an attorney immediately. If it were my mom, and she was taking Coumadin, and she'd fallen and hit her head?? She'd be in the ER stat. THEN to find out her Coumadin level was so high she needed Vitamin K? I'd say they were absolutely positively negligent. (I hate Coumadin.)

She should have been sent to the ER on the spot to have a brain CT scan. This was neglect. And yes you can and SHOULD sue. There are already conflicting stories of how and when this happened. My condolences to you and your family. My sister was sent to a home for simple rehab for a pelvic fracture. She had been in rehab before for her hip but the place she went to for her hip had no openings. Therefore she was sent to a different place. In 9 days they killed my sister. I went daily and one Sunday she was in the dining room slumped in her chair not aware of much of anything. I took her to her room and the RN ( so called RN) was outside her room dispensing meds. I told her there is something wrong with my sister, this is not how she acts. I told them she was prone to Peumonia and UTI,s and had anyone listened to her lungs or examined her. The RN,s response was I DONT KNOW!! I went to the charge nurse telling her the same things. She said she would "text" the Dr. Well 2 days later she was sent to the ER unresponsive. Guess what? She had pneumonia and a UTI!!! They totally ignored me. She had aspirated and God only knows how long she laid in her own mucus unable to breathe before they found her. She was put on a ventilator which she did not want before I arrived at the ER. A very long 2 week story she died. She got sepsis and MRSA. Her kidneys started to fail. We had to send her to hospice care within the hospital and watch her slowing die. The Dr.,s had told us her life would be in a nursing home with a trachea tube and feeding tube. There was no way we were allowing her to return to ANY home just to lay, be kept alive for them to make $5000 a month. We let her go hardest thing I have EVER had to do. I have guilt feelings about her going to the nursing home who killed her. She went there on the 17th of Feb and was gone into unresponsive state Feb 26 9 days later. Should you sue YES. The only place you can hurt these uncaring places is in the pocket. If enough claims are made against a neglectful nursing home sooner or later they will be forced to shut down due to financial hardships. That is our goal to see this place shut down. Also the same thing happened in January to a familys father. They ignored the families concerns about certain issues and he also died.

I am sorry that I have not been back to this site in a while to check on all of your replies to my question. I have really needed some time to try and heal and make sense of our situation.

Just to update our situation, we did seek the assistance of an attorney in San Diego who solely deals with seniors and injuries/deaths of this nature. We waited for about 10 months after her death before we filed a suit against the nursing home. Just to let you know you have to file within 1 year of their death or you lose the right to sue for certain things. I am sorry but I cannot tell you what they are.

Even when my mother was in the hospital, I was asking for copies of her medical records and when she passed I also obtained her nursing home records as well as those from a hospital she had been in prior to her admission to the nursing home. I would suggest that everyone in our position do the same thing as these records provide a wealth of knowledge that you are NEVER TOLD by the nursing staff.

Almost everyone I have spoken with who has had a parent in a nursing home, states that they died from a fall. The more I heard this the more I began to wonder about my mothers death as well as these other individuals. I am amazed at the number of people who just accept it and never check any further into the circumstances of the fall. I listened to my intuition and began a search which led to an attorney and suing this home. I am listing a few of the "light bulb" moments that made me wonder if what we had been told was indeed true.
1. Nursing home said Mom was alert and speaking ---she was comatose
2. ER said Mom was alert and answering questions ---she was comatose, we met her on arrival at the hospital and she was curled into a fetal position, unable to speak but moaning in pain. These records were corrected*
3. Nursing Director told me she got a call at 10pm that Mom had fallen, but the nurse told me he found her at 11:45pm when she fell. ****What happened to the 1 3/4 hours?
4. Nurse said he called in house doctor immediately and was told to put ice on her badly bruised head and put her back in bed and watch her. Doctor says he did not receive a call until 2am and he was told the bruise was small so he did tell them to put her back in bed and place ice on her head and give her the nurse's call button (she did not know how to use the call button prior to fall).
5. They had an xray company come in the following morning and do an xray of her skull and ribs and said she was fine.
6. At 11am the following day they checked her Coumadin and found out it was at 5.2 not the normal 2-3.
7. They decided to send her to the hospital at 1pm.
8. In ICU Mom was able to speak 2 times where we could understand her. The last thing I heard her say was "I've got to get out of here, this place is dangerous, very dangerous, Mary, Sharon, get me out of here!" She was frantically trying to crawl off the bed while saying this.

We were told by the attorney to file a complaint with the California Health Department that handles complaints against nursing homes which I did. A man when to the home unannounced and began to review the records and speak with the staff, what he found out was that the records were inaccurate, wrong and in some instances not even filled out. He spoke with the Nurse, Nursing Director, Meds Nurse and others and they all had different stories and some thought Mom needed help where others thought she was fine to ambulate on her own. There were no bed alarms turned on and Mom was too far from the nursing station.

He further found out that Mom had NO NURSE ASSIGNED TO HER at night...she was left on her own. That is from 11pm to 7am she had no nurse.

He did not say it to me but eluded to the fact that he felt Mom was kept there for 16 hours waiting for her to become worse, hoping she would not remember how she received "blunt force trauma to the head!" This was exactly what we felt had happened as well. We even felt that possibly she may have been given additional coumadin to cause the brain bleed to worsen. We think she was able to speak right after the injury and tell what had happened to her and they did not want anyone to know because it was NOT AN ACCIDENT SHE CAUSED. He seemed to think we were on the right track.

We recently found out that a "Double A Citation" was filed against the nursing home which is the highest the state is able to file against a nursing home and it carried a $100.000 fine.

We found out that another claim had been settled in 2013/14 against the same home but the records were sealed. We were then contacted by a State Omsbudsman that stated they were helping on another case against this nursing home where the patient had fallen and broke her hip and was placed back in her bed. She died from her injuries 5 days later. We have been asked to testify in this case coming up in April. We know there are more injuries at this home but no one files suits against them so the number is unknown.

I am not saying that everyone needs to run out and file suits against nursing homes, but I do believe each injury and death needs to be checked into....many times there is more to the story and I think "patient falls" have become an easy way of writing off injuries that never should have happened.

I have to say that when my mother died in the hospital, my sisters and I looked at each other and wondered..."Is that all there is? No police are called in, no investigation?" The Omsbudman who called us wants to turn our case over to the Department of Justice for further prosecution. We will see where that goes.

Thank you all for answering my question and I do hope this will help others as well as myself!!!

I'm so sorry about the death of your mother. What an awful experience to have to go through.

I don't know if you can sue. I mean, you can. One can sue anyone nowadays but do you have a case is the question. I would absolutely consult with an attorney.

Not to side with the nursing home but closed head injuries are impossible to detect unless someone is specifically looking for one. It happens that someone sustains a head injury and hours later collapses and dies as a result when they were previously up and around after the initial injury. But this is just FYI and has no bearing on whether you can sue.

Since your mom had a large bruise on her forehead I would think that they would have sent her out for a CT scan but if your mom was walking and talking after she fell they probably assumed she was OK. I would imagine that 9 out of 10 people who fall in a nursing home are OK. This was the exception.

Definitely get in touch with an attorney. And I'm sorry that you have to go through this while grieving the unexpected loss of your mom.

I am so sorry for your loss. The circumstances must make it even more difficult. My brother is a malpractice attorney. They do free consultation and if they take your case, the fee is a percentage of what they collect for you. PLEASE research your lawyer, like you would a DR. There are good and bad in every profession. If you let me know where you live, I might be able to get you a referral. Good luck and God bless.

This is such a sad, sad story. I would like to cry with you a bit, to fix you some tea or just listen to the pain of losing mom. Have you considered what going through all of this maybe over the course of 6 mos to 2 years or more, what would it do to you and your sister? To keep suffering for what your mom went through, over an extended period (I doubt the case would even be brought to the courtroom for at least a few months) would she want this? You may want to find a friend of a friend or just go to another home and ask what they would have done in this situation. As was previously mentioned, if your mom was up and talking and had breakfast, it would seem to just about everyone that she "just bumped her head." Hindsight is so 20/20, it does seem like they are culpable in something, or are they? Remember that celebrity skier who took a tumble, complained of a headache afterward then neither she nor her family or friends thought anything of it ... until she died some hours later? Doctor visits are usually initiated by blood, broken bones, rash or hysteria, not by doing every day things the way they did them every day. I just worry what going over and over this will do to you and your sister.... were they really at fault or was it somehow your mother's time? Lots of warm hugs to you. Let us know what you decided to do.

There had been a bit of an argument between my older sister and Mom's male nurse just before this happened. My sister went to visit and Mom needed to use the bathroom and my sister said they had a diaper on her so sister asked male nurse for another diaper. My mother had said that she did not want men helping her change her clothes or diaper. Sister told nurse this and asked that he get a female to do it. Nurse got upset and said "No she will just have to get used to it!" Sister and him got into a tiff over it. When I heard about it I told her, You had better watch out and not get angry with these people, they do have our mother and could treat her badly if you make them mad.

That night my mother fell striking her head, shoulder and ribs. She had 3 hemorrhages in the brain. He held ice on her bruise but she was not transported to the hospital for 16+ hours.....until it was too late basically.

We were there when she arrived and she was comatose/absolutely non responsive, unable to open her eyes but moaning in pain. The ER doctor asked us if Mom was always like this and we said NO ABSOLUTELY NOT, SHE TALKS, WALKS, OPENS HER EYES EVEN WORKS IN THE GARDEN.....THIS IS NOT OUR MOTHER BY A LONG SHOT! He said okay but his ER medical records read that she was awake, alert, talking, no pain etc. NONE OF THIS IS TRUE ABSOLUTELY NONE OF IT.

I have gone to the Medical Records Dept to ask this be corrected but it hasn't yet. The entire thing is a mess.