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My Mom hasn't been diagnosed that I know of, and possibly had a ct scan, but told me everything was okay but I don't know. One of her sisters thinks she has dementia or alzheimers. She has worked with alzheimers patients, too, and my grandmother, her Mom, had alzheimers. I wondered myself in early 2021 if my Mom had dementia. I had a weird incident with her, and she left me a voicemail saying I did something I didn't do. She calls people too much, too, and repeats herself. She has kept bringing up her mortgage for over a year. She also called one of my nephews at maybe 1:30 in the morning, and had no recollection of it. My aunt tells me things, and some of the things she has said about my Mom have been that she didn't know which lane to get into when driving. And that she only drives to her place. My aunt takes her shopping, but my aunt has a heart problem, and my Mom said she got shaky, so they apparently had to cut a shopping trip short, and my Mom didn't get everything she wanted or needed. My aunt said that my Mom doesn't have caller id, but talks about numbers she sees as if she still has caller id. She's talked about her weight; like as in her not weighing enough, and not gaining weight. She said though that she gets things that don't require cooking so hopefully she won't cook. According to my aunt, she called her once and maybe didn't know what was going on at her house-as in my Mom's house. She also told my aunt that she went to some place she told her to go to, but my aunt hadn't told her to go there. And she said she banged on the door. My aunt said it was some place they went to or something when they were kids. My aunt gets stressed, and again, she has a heart issue. I live over 2,000 miles away, and I have two sisters in the state my Mom lives in. But it doesn't sound like they're much help. And they aren't easy to talk to, and I don't want to talk to them-I don't like them, especially one of them, but I'll somewhat talk to them for now at least for my Mom. My aunt has talked about how alone my Mom is basically. She has a friend across the street from her, but that friend has heart failure. I'm not a person on my Mom's file at her doctors, so they wouldn't tell me anything. One of my sisters lives a half hour from our mom. She does have her own stuff like depression{I've had suicidal thoughts and circumstantial depression myself, but that would be better at least if not for problems with my ex who I still live with for now; but that isn't the only thing I'm not happy about}, and my sister has a husband, kids and grandkids, work, and Rheumatoid Arthritis. And feels she has to do everything but it doesn't sound like she's doing much at all lately regarding our mother. I understand and know that she has her own stuff, and so do I. Aside from what I mentioned, I have been single too long and want to find someone again, and for my life to get better. While I realize it's not all about me, I have feelings and wants and needs, too. I have thought about moving back to my home state, and getting my own place. I don't want to live with my Mom. No one is asking me to. But I would help her what I could but yeah, I don't want to live with her. I call her, and I sent her a Mother's day card. I don't get home much, and can't afford to right now. I am about to finish certification for a remote job. Oh and regarding my Mom, she also may have used a credit card too much, and hopefully my aunt will get it from her. I don't think I'm horrible for not wanting to live with her. Unless I'm not good for not doing so in case something awful happened, and could have already. She seems normal for the most part when I talk to her.

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If no one is the DPoA for your Mom, then no one has any legal power to make her do anything if she doesn't want to.

That being said, if I were in your position I'd have a conference call with your sisters and your Aunt to exchange information and discuss what everything thinks may be a solution, and also discuss who is willing and able to do anything for her consistently.

You are not morally or ethically obligated to live with her. No one can force or assume anyone into a caregiving responsibility. But, you and your sisters & Aunt are in the best position to line up the best available help for her, if you are willing to do this. So, once there is consensus among you about what the best help for her is, and who (or what organization) should do it, then this decision will guide all other solutions for her.

At the minimum, someone can call APS for her county to report her as a vulnerable senior. It is possible that the county will acquire guardianship of her and then they will make all care and medical and financial decisions for her.

I'm sorry you are in this distressing situation. May you gain clarity, wisdom and peace in your heart over this situation.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
My aunt and I already talk, but like I said, it's hard talking to my sisters, and one of them doesn't always respond. And she is the one who only lives a half hour away. I would be as consistent as I could helping my Mom if I lived close enough, and I may move back to my home state when I can afford to. My aunt mentioned calling social services on my sisters who live there, too.
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Mom clearly has problems and needs help.

You're not in a position to help, nor should you be. You have enough going on, and you need to take care of yourself first. That isn't selfish; it's smart. If you don't take care of yourself, who will? "Selfish" is a label that others slap on us when they want us to do something that they don't want to do. This is a good thing to keep in mind.

Effective Human Relations Course 101: The first thing to do is step back to give yourself time to think. The second thing is gather information. The third step is evaluate your options. Fourth step is evaluate some more. Fifth step is to draw a conclusion, which you might want to test. Sixth step: Decide what to do.

I'd advise some space between you and all the relatives and also from mom. You're being bombarded with information from every which way. Some of it may not be true. Some may be manipulative, as in "Mom blah blah blah and WE want you to blah blah blah." In no way should their blah blah blah become your blah blah blah.

You're in the first step, which is give yourself time to think. You've made a good move by coming to this forum to gather information.

Keep in mind that you don't owe these people anything. Sharing the same DNA doesn't make you a servant or a slave to them. You should not move in with mom. Mom should not move in with you. If that happens, your life is over. I mean it. Nothing you take for granted now, such as your freedom to come and go as you like, the possibility of finding a life partner, or even keeping your own cat, would be guaranteed. You'd be knocking yourself out for mom, her relatives, your sisters, and for what? Misery.

I wish you luck. The best way to have luck is not to get involved.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
The only person who tells me things about my mom is my aunt. I won't let them stick me so to speak with everything but I don't know what will happen.
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In regard to my supposed "wall of text", I typed what I needed to. No one has to read it.
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Tiredniece23 Oct 5, 2023
Whatever you do, do not let your family know that you don't have much of a life, as you said earlier. They will be all over you. Don't move in with her. Don't have her move in with you. Your life will be over. I have a similar situation going on with my aunt. She's not ny mother, and I live miles away. Family who live closer are trying to make me responsible. Nope.
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That law you mention is called a filial law and only 29 states still have it on their books. With the introduction of Medicaid, they are not usually enforced.

"New Jersey is 1 of 29 states to have a filial responsibility law. What is it? Basically, children have a legal responsibility to support their parents when their parents are incapable of financially taking care of themselves."

By "support" they mean monetarily. You provide your parent with basic necessities, food, clothing and shelter. These laws were made before the states implemented Social Services. I live in NJ and we are a State that has a decent Welfare system. The the ability of the child to be able to support a parent is taken in consideration. I would not worry about that law. Aunt calling APS on sisters will not work.

I would call APS to evaluate Moms situation. Aunt can explain what she sees in her sister. If your sister is willing to move in, Mom may not have a choice. Its that, Assisted Living if she can afford it or Long-term care with Medicaid helping with the cost if Mom has no money. Its no longer what Mom wants but what she needs. The State becoming her guardian would be the last thing I would allow. By them becoming her guardian, you have no say in her care.

Since Aunt and sisters are there, they need to get together and figure this all out. Aunt should not be doing any care with her heath. So ur two sisters need to decide. If you really don't mind moving back tell them that but you will not live with her and because u need to work, you will not physically care for her. You will though help.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
My sister who lives close to our mom has a husband. I doubt she'd move in with her. My mom can afford things as far as I know. I thought of moving back because there's cheaper and better looking places to live there. But I wasn't going to live in my hometown. It could be possible for me to live in a nearby city, though. My sisters work. I don't know what will happen.
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Rockerchick, seems you are living in the ocean of life (as we all are), but actively swimming towards your goals. Yay.

Keeping up close family connections can be great, can bring good support both sides. Sometimes the sharing of news is just that. Sharing of daily news & worries. Waves going back & forth.

But some share their news peppered with little 'hints' to find help. Little hooks. Others throw great big ropes to hopefully lasso your ankle & drag you into their world.

Or maybe the sensitive folk amoung us, the ones with high empathy will feel the pull of the waves more? Feel the worries. Feel the need to fix. Is this you?

Your safest course may be to keep swimming towards your own goals. Hear their news. Ask what they want to do? Be a support. But without any expectation you will build rafts for everyone to stay afloat.
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SnoopyLove Jun 20, 2023
“But some share their news peppered with little 'hints' to find help. Little hooks. Others throw great big ropes to hopefully lasso your ankle & drag you into their world.”

Lol — well put!
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You, your siblings, and your aunt have to have a sit down and have a serious talk about what to do with your mother.

From what you're saying here, your mother most certainly has dementia. You say she seems normal to you when the two of you talk. That's called 'showtiming'. It means a person with dementia can pull it together for short periods of time and seem totally fine.

They're not though.

You say your aunt has experience with Alzheimer's/dementia. Take her word for it when she says your mother isn't fine.
Please for your mother's sake and the safety of everyone else on the road, no more driving.

Your mother is not your aunt's responsibility. So what may be mistaken as guilt-tripping from your aunt may actually be resentment and fear. You say you have two siblings. The three of you need to get together and make some decisions for your mother.
If none of you are willing to, then one of you can call APS and put it in their hands. I will tell you straight speaking from 25 years of caregiving experience. APS isn't going to do anything until there's a crisis. Communicate with your siblings first. There are many options which do not include you moving in with your mother. The three of you need to explore some.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 24, 2023
I would talk with them. I'm over 2,000 miles away as I said, though so I can't have a in person sit down with them right now. But I'd talk to them as you mentioned however I don't know what should be done, I just know her possible living options. And that she doesn't want to live with my sister who offered. One of my sisters doesn't always respond either. I don't have a good relationship with them either. I can't stop her driving from out here. And I know my mom is not my aunts responsibility. I never said she was. I didn't say my aunt is guilt tripping me either.
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What does that mean "calling social services on my sisters"?

Your sisters have no legal obligation to provide care for your mother.

Your Aunt should instead call Social Services or Adult Protective Services and report your mother as a vulnerable adult who can't care for herself adequately.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
Like, calling social services if things stay the way they are. She doesn't want my Mom to be taken far away or something. I found this online, and again, my Mom lives in North Carolina as my sisters still do: North Carolina is one of these states. State law holds that it is a misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail, for an adult child to fail to support an ill or indigent parent.
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Welcome to the forum. Sorry for the issues with your mom. Definitely tough to get a real feel for what's going on when you can't see it for yourself. You should not turn your life upside down to live with your mom. And don't feel bad about it either. You are entitled to your life.

Does one of your sisters have POA for your mom? Can you ask your sister that you get along with better to talk to your mom's doctor about screening her for dementia? Does her doctor have an online portal? If so, get her signed up and share the password with your sisters so you can all see her records online. I love that so much for my mom.

Is your mom's paperwork in order? Does she have a will? Living will? POA for financial and health? If she it still competent, this should be done ASAP. If she's not competent, then that ship has sailed and it is what it is.

People with dementia can seem pretty normal on a phone call. There are short term and long term memory but there is also the type of memory (immediate?) that allows people to carry on a conversation. I know my mom uses lots of vague answers but they sound normal in a convo. But I know that they are just a defense mechanism and she is fairly lost given her dementia.

Good luck.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
Thank you. I was there and stayed with her in 2021 for days when my dad died. They hadn't been together since 2010, though. But the only things from her then was maybe repeating something, and when I was in the bathroom once, she was in the kitchen talking. I don't know that anyone has power of attorney over my mom. One of my sisters is on her file at my mom's doctor's office. That's all I know. I could ask my sister about trying to have a yay or nay diagnosis regarding dementia for our mom, but she might not reply to me. She doesn't always reply. I could look online to see if her doctors office has a online portal, but I doubt I'd have access to her info. My mom doesn't have a will.
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Is there a specific question you have we might help with?

There seem to be many issues with your mom. You have explained that you don't wish to assume care for mom. Which is fine. I would encourage others not to discuss a whole lot of nebulous daily problems with you. You sound somewhat over informed by others to me, and it seems to be pressuring you in some way.

I hope you will get on with your own life, and not over-think what the future will bring. You know where you stand, and that's a good thing.
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Rockerchick31 Jun 19, 2023
If I asked a question here about this, it would be if I'm all selfish or bad if I don't go live with my mom or that I haven't in case something bad had happened or could. One of my sisters has a house, and son and works 15 hours a day. She's the one who offered for my mom to live with her. But again my mom doesn't want to. My sisters son is 20 but he might still live with her. If I didn't mention it, my other sister has a husband. I am single at the moment but I don't want to stay that way, and just have a kitty I'd be taking with me if I move back to NC. And again, I'm doing certification for a new job. It's just a job but I need money. I don't have much of a life right now. Thanks.
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Not going to read that wall of text, sorry.But if you don't want to live with her, don't.

You have no obligation, legally or morally, to provide her with hands-on care. She can go to a facility once she's progressed to the point of being unable to live alone, if she hasn't already.

The fact that you live on the other side of the country will benefit you in this regard. Do not ever entertain the thought of moving back to her state for any reason.
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southernwave Jun 19, 2023
It’s a Glitch when you edit the post. It removes all of the paragraphs. I hope aging care fixes it soon
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