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I have found the hard way that if a parent refuses to go, then there's nothing you can do. Well, for me, there was nothing that I can do. In April, father was coughing a lot. Then it got more violent coughing. I saw the color of his phlegm changing and knew that he now had pneumonia. I tried reasoning with him that he needed medical help because he now had an infection in his lungs. He refused.
I called 911. They were not going to send an ambulance since he refuses medical help. But, I practically begged the 911 operator to atleast TRY. So, they sent an ambulance, the EMS asked father questions, and left without even treating him.
I then called APS (adult protective services). I explained the situation and she said that there's nothing they can do. She gave me the phone number of the elder care lawyer. I called, came in and got interviewed by the office manager. She told me the same thing that APS told me. That there's nothing they can do. So, I went to his medical insurance to see if the doctor can do a house call. I was Very Firmly told that their doctors do not do housecalls and will not do any medical diagnosis without seeing the patient. I was given a phone number..... back to APS!
In the end, I was told by several posters here that I just need to wait it out. That father won't be able to handle the pain. Sure enough, 3 days later, he said that he cannot handle the painful breathing and struggling to breathe. He had pneumonia. His left lung was almost filled with fluid. He spent 2 weeks at the hospital. I told him if that he had just gone to the clinic when I told him to, he wouldn't have had to spend 2 weeks in the hospital. Still Refuses to Seek Medical Intervention.
Hopefully someone here will give you pointers on what helped them to get their parent to see the doctor.
Ckf, I did a quick search on this site (top right) using "refuse medical help". I got several hits. But there was an article on this site on what you are asking about. Please click on the link below. It will give you some options. Plus if you do the Search on the top right, you can quickly open whichever thread/discussion that you think applies to your situation. I hope it helps you.
Ckf, I'm in the same position as you. Father cannot pee without the catheter. He already accidentally pulled it out. His regular doctor is only able to do house visits because when father got released from the hospital, they requested home care visits with the nurse. Thru the nurse, father was able to persuade the doctor to do home visits. She is now trying to get him to see a urologist to find out why he cannot pee without the catheter. He Refuses to go!! Every day, I keep trying to reason (sigh...useless to reason with someone who is unreasonable or going down the senile road!) with him on why he needs to see the specialist. If you figured out how to get your mom to go, maybe I can try the same with my father.
By proceeding, I agree that I understand the following disclosures:
I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
VI. No Waiver of Your Rights.
APFM does not (and may not) require or even ask consumers seeking senior housing or care services in Washington State to sign waivers of liability for losses of personal property or injury or to sign waivers of any rights established under law.
I agree that:
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I authorize A Place For Mom ("APFM") to collect certain personal and contact detail information, as well as relevant health care information about me or from me about the senior family member or relative I am assisting ("Senior Living Care Information").
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APFM may provide information to me electronically. My electronic signature on agreements and documents has the same effect as if I signed them in ink.
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APFM may send all communications to me electronically via e-mail or by access to an APFM web site.
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If I want a paper copy, I can print a copy of the Disclosures or download the Disclosures for my records.
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This E-Sign Acknowledgement and Authorization applies to these Disclosures and all future Disclosures related to APFM's services, unless I revoke my authorization. You may revoke this authorization in writing at any time (except where we have already disclosed information before receiving your revocation.) This authorization will expire after one year.
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You consent to APFM's reaching out to you using a phone system than can auto-dial numbers (we miss rotary phones, too!), but this consent is not required to use our service.
I called 911. They were not going to send an ambulance since he refuses medical help. But, I practically begged the 911 operator to atleast TRY. So, they sent an ambulance, the EMS asked father questions, and left without even treating him.
I then called APS (adult protective services). I explained the situation and she said that there's nothing they can do. She gave me the phone number of the elder care lawyer. I called, came in and got interviewed by the office manager. She told me the same thing that APS told me. That there's nothing they can do. So, I went to his medical insurance to see if the doctor can do a house call. I was Very Firmly told that their doctors do not do housecalls and will not do any medical diagnosis without seeing the patient. I was given a phone number..... back to APS!
In the end, I was told by several posters here that I just need to wait it out. That father won't be able to handle the pain. Sure enough, 3 days later, he said that he cannot handle the painful breathing and struggling to breathe. He had pneumonia. His left lung was almost filled with fluid. He spent 2 weeks at the hospital. I told him if that he had just gone to the clinic when I told him to, he wouldn't have had to spend 2 weeks in the hospital. Still Refuses to Seek Medical Intervention.
Hopefully someone here will give you pointers on what helped them to get their parent to see the doctor.
https://www.agingcare.com/articles/aging-parent-refuses-go-to-doctor-133384.htm