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This is a horrible answer but if people are so stubborn and uncooperative, then let them be wet and uncomfortable. This is just plain insanity. You may have to get a special tape and attach them with tape on her body so she can't get them off - but then what if she has to pee? This would infuriate me.
Her mother might have a memory problem or worse. Put tape on the depends? She needs to change the depends more frequently. This is lousy advice. Maybe she was taken them off because she was wet. Patience people!!
Before you staple them to her (metaphorically, of course, I'm not suggesting you really would!) I would just check why she's removing them, and that it isn't because they're chafing her or uncomfortable in some other way. If she's just waking up puzzled about why they're there and removing them, that's one thing, but if they're bothering her you might like to try a different brand and/or size first.
Is this a new problem, and she was fine with them before?
If she is in the they don't put anything on the elderly patients. If you have a protective mattress cover and you can also put a disposable on top of sheet she wouldn't need to wear the depends. I like the idea to use a padded vinyl tablecloth
1. I use vinyl tablecloths with the felt backing to cover the bed. They work great! Anything can be wiped off, then just spray on some disinfectant. On top of that I add chucks to help absorb anything and a sheet so there's no sticking to the vinyl.
2. Duct tape the diaper around the waist. Make it tight, but not so tight that it is uncomfortable. She likely won't have the strength to rip the tape or pull them off. You may need to clip with scissors to get them off when it's time. (Some duct tape is more sturdy than others. Dollar Store tape works just fine.)
There are some good creative suggestions here already. As an old nurse from BEFORE all these disposable products here is another suggestion: Use Fitted vinyl sheets. You will need TWO sets of sheeting for the bed. Put on the fitted vinyl sheet. Then a regular fitted sheet, then this layer is optional, but a tuck in large draw waterproof protective cover sheet that fits across the whole bed, then a SECOND fitted vinyl sheet, a regular fitted sheeta second large tuck in draw sheet, and a second large tuck-in covered draw sheet.
This way, when they have been incontinent at night you will not have to remake the whole bed. Simply take off the wet layer. Replace the top sheet if needed. And of course you can replace any wet clothing. Repeat peeling off layers as the night progresses, or change in the morning, dropping all in the washer then dryer for the next night.
I have several patients who are very wet over night, and this has saved the mattress, as no diaper seems to work very well beyond one good soaking.
You must balance competing interests...1. Your own interest in sleeping undisturbed through the night....against 2. The grief of changing the sheets and pads first thing every morning after getting your loved one up and on the potty. I cover the mattress with 2 overlapping 6 foot pads which I draped over the side of the mattress for insurance. Then I put the bottom sheet in place followed by 3 more pads, 2 overlapping and the 3rd also but in a different position so the 3 pads together form something of a cross. Now the second sheet so my wife does not sleep directly on the pads and is not in a position to rearrange the pads during the night. Finally the 3rd sheet, the top sheet which covers the body with a light summer blanket. Morning finds the top sheet wet in predictable areas and sometimes 3 or 2 of the pads. I strip off sheets 3 and 2 and wash them immediately with the pads. Sheet #1 and the 2 large pads directly on the mattress remain untouched.
I am 15 years into this drill and frequently my night prayers is to not wake up. Helpful home care is a joke.
I got a large "onesie" for my Husband. It did work to some extent. I did not use it for long. More inconvenient for me. There are also "leak proof pants" you can put over the pull up brief. Another thought and possibly a super simple idea..does she wear pajamas to bed? If not try pj's with top and pants or shorts it may be as simple as she would remove the bottoms and leave the pull up brief alone. Is she taking them off because they are uncomfortable or that she possibly has soiled it then removed it and does not know to put on another? I often put a pair of the long leg briefs on my Husband over the pull up brief or the tab brief when we switched to that. The long leg brief (boxer brief I think they are called) prevented him from pulling it loose or from the tabs from opening up. (I now wear them as my summer pj bottoms with a t-shirt, very comfortable)
I had the same problem with my husband. I solved it by ordering special pajamas online that zip up the back. I found them in a catalog called "Buck and Buck" that specializes in gear for people with disabilities and dementia. They are not cheap (about $50) and are a bit warm in the summer, and a bit of a chore to put on, but they have worked very well. He cannot possibly take them off at night.
Rainmom’s suggestion sounds like it would work but I had to laugh.
Not that it’s funny but the part about making it harder.
With many who have dementia I’ve noticed they can be very focused and determined. When my FIL had a head trauma and wanted to escape his hospital room he was relentless in his efforts and had much success.
When my aunt had plumbing problems her caretaker explained she couldn’t use her master bath toilet. She closed the door. Put up a string with a note and placed a shower bench in front of the door. ( the shower bench was aunts idea as she was afraid she would forget).
Later that night I look on the camera footage and there aunt is moving the shower bench. This little 4’10” lady who normally uses a cane, picking up that bench and moving it right out of the way, taking down the string and heading into her bathroom. Oh well, I thought. We will deal with it tomorrow.
So the next day my husband and I get to her house (couple of hours away). We meet with plumber get everything taken care of. Her bathroom now restored to her. That night DH heads down the hall to the guest bathroom on the other side of the house from aunts bedroom and there she is on the toilet in the guest bathroom. Lol
Get adult size one piece pajama- you know, like the kind with feet that toddlers and babies wear. Then put them on backwards so she can’t undress herself.
I started this years and years ago when my now adult disabled son was still a small child - but too big for “onesies”. The little bugger was stripping naked, taking his pull-up off and playing in his room - peeing as the need struck.
I buy them on line. Flannel for winter and a jersey knit for warmer weather. I cut the feet off just below an elastic band around the ankle to reduce trip hazards and cut the arms off around the bicep area to make them cooler in the summer.
Ive read here there are companies on line that specialize in adaptive clothing for the disabled and elderly. I’ve never looked as the PJ solution has worked for us. But - I imagine you could find then easy enough with a google search.
Maybe double them up so it's not so easy? They have clothing that are one piece and open from the back that might work. Google ALZ clothing. Best of luck.
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Is this a new problem, and she was fine with them before?
1. I use vinyl tablecloths with the felt backing to cover the bed. They work great! Anything can be wiped off, then just spray on some disinfectant. On top of that I add chucks to help absorb anything and a sheet so there's no sticking to the vinyl.
2. Duct tape the diaper around the waist. Make it tight, but not so tight that it is uncomfortable. She likely won't have the strength to rip the tape or pull them off. You may need to clip with scissors to get them off when it's time. (Some duct tape is more sturdy than others. Dollar Store tape works just fine.)
This way, when they have been incontinent at night you will not have to remake the whole bed. Simply take off the wet layer. Replace the top sheet if needed. And of course you can replace any wet clothing. Repeat peeling off layers as the night progresses, or change in the morning, dropping all in the washer then dryer for the next night.
I have several patients who are very wet over night, and this has saved the mattress, as no diaper seems to work very well beyond one good soaking.
Morning finds the top sheet wet in predictable areas and sometimes 3 or 2 of the pads. I strip off sheets 3 and 2 and wash them immediately with the pads. Sheet #1 and the 2 large pads directly on the mattress remain untouched.
I am 15 years into this drill and frequently my night prayers is to not wake up. Helpful home care is a joke.
I did not use it for long. More inconvenient for me.
There are also "leak proof pants" you can put over the pull up brief.
Another thought and possibly a super simple idea..does she wear pajamas to bed? If not try pj's with top and pants or shorts it may be as simple as she would remove the bottoms and leave the pull up brief alone.
Is she taking them off because they are uncomfortable or that she possibly has soiled it then removed it and does not know to put on another?
I often put a pair of the long leg briefs on my Husband over the pull up brief or the tab brief when we switched to that. The long leg brief (boxer brief I think they are called) prevented him from pulling it loose or from the tabs from opening up. (I now wear them as my summer pj bottoms with a t-shirt, very comfortable)
I had to laugh.
Not that it’s funny but the part about making it harder.
With many who have dementia I’ve noticed they can be very focused and determined.
When my FIL had a head trauma and wanted to escape his hospital room he was relentless in his efforts and had much success.
When my aunt had plumbing problems her caretaker explained she couldn’t use her master bath toilet. She closed the door. Put up a string with a note and placed a shower bench in front of the door. ( the shower bench was aunts idea as she was afraid she would forget).
Later that night I look on the camera footage and there aunt is moving the shower bench. This little 4’10” lady who normally uses a cane, picking up that bench and moving it right out of the way, taking down the string and heading into her bathroom.
Oh well, I thought. We will deal with it tomorrow.
So the next day my husband and I get to her house (couple of hours away).
We meet with plumber get everything taken care of. Her bathroom now restored to her.
That night DH heads down the hall to the guest bathroom on the other side of the house from aunts bedroom and there she is on the toilet in the guest bathroom. Lol
There is truly never a dull moment with dementia.
I started this years and years ago when my now adult disabled son was still a small child - but too big for “onesies”. The little bugger was stripping naked, taking his pull-up off and playing in his room - peeing as the need struck.
I buy them on line. Flannel for winter and a jersey knit for warmer weather. I cut the feet off just below an elastic band around the ankle to reduce trip hazards and cut the arms off around the bicep area to make them cooler in the summer.
Ive read here there are companies on line that specialize in adaptive clothing for the disabled and elderly. I’ve never looked as the PJ solution has worked for us. But - I imagine you could find then easy enough with a google search.