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I don't see that as normal. I see that in my 86 year old grandmother who has Alzheimers. DON'T trust that doctor. Get a second opinion or even a third. If that were a sign of "normal" aging, my church would be filled with paranoid old people!
That doesn't seem normal to me either. You may have to relocate her to assisted living facility or nursing home. That is not part of the aging process. For some reason your mom is paranoid and needs further help.
The behavior you described is NOT part of the normal aging process, but these types of delusions are fairly common among individuals with some form of dementia, usually Alzheimer's. Unfortunately, most doctors are not particularly familiar with dementia. When they went to med school 20 years ago, these behaviors were commonly dismissed as senility. If they spent five minutes learning about Alzheimer's, that's a lot. I don't want to frighten you, but seek further help. Look for someone who specializes in cognitive disorders like dementia. I wish you and Mom the best.
Get to a gerontologist - which is an internist who has had additional training in elderly diseases. Most health science centers who have a medical school will have a whole residency program and faculty for this. That would be where I would start. If you are in a small town, you will need to drive to it. It will be worth it to get her into their system ---think of it she could live another 20++ years, so you want to have it all be as positive as possible.
75 is too young for regular "old-age" problems. Like Lonken said If she were 86 then it makes more sense.
At 75 they would probably put her on Aricept. The first 2 weeks are critical to get it all into her system and balanced, There can be some GI problems after 5 - 7 days, you HAVE to make sure that she takes it regular at a set time and get past the first 3 weeks. It seems to make them feel more in control and lucid.....so they are much happier.
Mine is in her 90's and we go thru "stealing" issues, which really are about her finding a way to rationalize when she can't remember where she put stuff. Whenever she backs off a couple of days on her med's, someone comes and steals. (I go & count out her pills and it's usually 3 days and a theft!)
The kill her part is the worrisome one.If she starts to tell people about this, some one is going to tell social services and then it becomes a real issue. You need to have a doctor evaluate her and tell them about this so that is is on her record as a hallucination. One of my friends dad, who is 90 and stage 3 Alz. told one of his friends a a couple of years back that DIL was trying to kill him for his $$. Not true as DIL and son provide for all of his' support as he only gets $ 600 mo in SS. But non the less state social worker had them investigated for elder abuse. It all cleared up but a royal PIA.
Now if his dementia with "killing me" hallucination had been on his medical record it would have been resolved by an examination of his medical records. But he was still seeing his also old MD and it was all just "that's what happens when you get old". Sadly he's in a locked down Alz. unit now. Good luck
Hi Shannon~It sounds to me as though you Mom is paranoid for some reason, as this type of behavior that has been exhibited does not seem like normal aging. Can you contact someone in the medical profession about this--sooner than later, as there may be an underlying reason for all of this? If this is a dementia or alzheimer's then that possibly could be a reason.
I worked with someone much younger than me that was dx with Alz. so there is no right age for it my MIL had mental problems in her 50's but as above she needs to be worked up because some nosy person is going to come along and report what she says as the truth I was reported by a home care nurse because I took care of my husband at home and he was beeing seen by at least 100 docs in the 16 yrs. of being disable and had never been told he needed a nursing home and APS got involved and it was no fun. Being perinoid is a clastic sym. of mental illness.
I would strongly encourage you to take your Mother to someone who specializes in geriatrics. This is not a normal part of aging. She sounds paranoid and perhaps somewhat delusional. Is she on any medication?
As is often suggested in other posts, keep some sort of camera on you at all times. Most cameras these days shoot video, so when she starts her rant, start videoing before you get near her, and pointing the camera in her general direction, set the camera on some surface. This will be very handy to show the doctors, nurses, ambulance drivers...and perhaps the police.
If she wanders off, or bolts off in a panic, she'll be questioned by the police, by the ER staff, etc. And you know what she's going to say. MURDER ME! These films will be invaluable to cut through the BS to get her settled and you out of trouble. Keep a camera transfer cable in your car or your computer case...keep some film samples on a thumbdrive, your laptop harddrive, and even on the camera itself. Load "movies" a private YOUTUBE channel, accessible only by password. That way you can phone in the channel and PW to the person who contacts you by phone.
Be prepared, you don't want investigation by the Dept of Adult Services, which would lead to the county suing for conservatorship of your mother.
In the hr or so since I posted, I called my friend with the "she's trying to kill me". OMG, she told me that is was not just a pain but much, much worse. They just didn't want to tell their friends when it all this happened.
ALzCaregiver - you are so on target!!! State protective services did a full investigation on them. Apparently, the SS check was deposited in their account. It was "commingled" so while the investigation was going on, this account was frozen. Their salary was direct deposit into the same account too. NO MONEY!! They had to go into their 401K to pay for day to day expenses. Total nightmare.
What they were told to do (this was a few years ago) was to every day place a tape recorder in the room to document ramblings, especially good as you are NOT in the room with him (and could influence it). So yes on the videography.
Also have seperate accounts and checks for everything. Debit card all parents expenses, so you have a constant record, also by debit card there's no interest. As you will never be able to "make" a profit by being reinbursed for the interest charges on a credit card. Real receipts with date and business name - if not done this way take a business card and staple the card to the reciept for documentation.
And get this, her ex-husband was contacted. The social worker kinda implied that he could ask for full custody of the kids while the adult case was being reviewed. Now they get along and all is well post-divorce for them, so that didn't happen. But can you imagine if that wasn't the case.
Mom has dementia and constantly accuses me of moving her furniture and possessions. She remembers living in the upstairs apartment and thinks I moved all of her stuff downstairs while she was gone. She's living back 43 years ago in her mind. You definitely need to get another opinion about your mom. Sounds like dementia setting in. Good luck!
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additional training in elderly diseases. Most health science
centers who have a medical school will have a whole
residency program and faculty for this. That would be where
I would start. If you are in a small town, you will need to
drive to it. It will be worth it to get her into their system
---think of it she could live another 20++ years, so you want
to have it all be as positive as possible.
75 is too young for regular "old-age" problems.
Like Lonken said If she were 86 then it makes more sense.
At 75 they would probably put her on Aricept. The first 2 weeks are critical to get it all into her system and balanced, There can be some GI problems after 5 - 7 days, you HAVE to make
sure that she takes it regular at a set time and get past the
first 3 weeks. It seems to make them feel more in control
and lucid.....so they are much happier.
Mine is in her 90's and we go thru "stealing" issues, which
really are about her finding a way to rationalize when she
can't remember where she put stuff. Whenever she backs off a couple of days on her med's, someone comes and steals.
(I go & count out her pills and it's usually 3 days and a theft!)
The kill her part is the worrisome one.If she starts to tell people about this, some one is going to tell social services
and then it becomes a real issue. You need to have a doctor
evaluate her and tell them about this so that is is on her record as a hallucination. One of my friends dad, who is 90 and
stage 3 Alz. told one of his friends a a couple of years back that DIL was trying to kill him for his $$. Not true as DIL and son provide for all of his' support as he only gets $ 600 mo in SS. But non the less state social worker had them investigated for elder abuse. It all cleared up but a royal PIA.
Now if his dementia with "killing me" hallucination had been on his medical record it would have been resolved by an examination of his medical records. But he was still seeing his
also old MD and it was all just "that's what happens when you get old". Sadly he's in a locked down Alz. unit now. Good luck
Hang tight in the meantime~
Hap
If she wanders off, or bolts off in a panic, she'll be questioned by the police, by the ER staff, etc. And you know what she's going to say. MURDER ME! These films will be invaluable to cut through the BS to get her settled and you out of trouble. Keep a camera transfer cable in your car or your computer case...keep some film samples on a thumbdrive, your laptop harddrive, and even on the camera itself. Load "movies" a private YOUTUBE channel, accessible only by password. That way you can phone in the channel and PW to the person who contacts you by phone.
Be prepared, you don't want investigation by the Dept of Adult Services, which would lead to the county suing for conservatorship of your mother.
"she's trying to kill me". OMG, she told me that is was not
just a pain but much, much worse. They just didn't want to
tell their friends when it all this happened.
ALzCaregiver - you are so on target!!! State protective services did a full investigation on them. Apparently, the
SS check was deposited in their account. It was "commingled"
so while the investigation was going on, this account was frozen. Their salary was direct deposit into the same account too. NO MONEY!! They had to go into their 401K to pay for day to day expenses. Total nightmare.
What they were told to do (this was a few years ago) was to
every day place a tape recorder in the room to document
ramblings, especially good as you are NOT in the room with him (and could influence it). So yes on the videography.
Also have seperate accounts and checks for everything.
Debit card all parents expenses, so you have a constant record, also by debit card there's no interest. As you will
never be able to "make" a profit by being reinbursed for the interest charges on a credit card. Real receipts with date
and business name - if not done this way take a business
card and staple the card to the reciept for documentation.
And get this, her ex-husband was contacted. The social worker kinda implied that he could ask for full custody of
the kids while the adult case was being reviewed. Now
they get along and all is well post-divorce for them, so that
didn't happen. But can you imagine if that wasn't the case.
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