Hello:
My Mother is healthy and has announced she will be moving IN with me when my father passes away. I am an only child and they did not finacially plan for their retirements.
I usually ignore these comments, because who knows what's going to happen ten or twenty years down the road. My Mother suffers for anxiety which is poorly managed, and I'm sure she's mostly ruminating on an uncertain future.
I was divorced a few years ago, and had to sell our house. I've carefully managed the proceeds from the sale and lived below my means to nuture a nest egg so I may purchase my very own house! I'm very excited to finally have something of my own that's not dependent on anyone else.
When I announced my plans, the very first response from my Mother was a list of demands. "Make sure I have space. We will need parking and no stairs!"
My feelings are hurt. I didn't even get a congratulations or any excitement. Besides she knows the neighborhood I want to live in is all old brownstone townhouses. I'm not moving far away from my job now so she maybe can have a flat home to stay in someday. Oh, and I also never invited her.
How do I handle this over the holidays? She will inevitably bring it up. She sulks and pouts and holds grudges if you are firm with her at all. I also want to be humane because I know anxiety is hard. I have no siblings and children, so I'll eventually be in elder care myself, which is something I'm also saving for. She's put a real damper on my holidays and home shopping.
If not then you need to make that VERY VERY clear right NOW!!!!
If moving close is an option maybe a 2 flat or a house with an in-law unit attached might be an option. Even 2 Condo units next to each other would work.
If you want mom to move in then you need to sit down and put your "wish list" down take her "wish list" and see what can be found. (make sure you both have at the top of your lists what is must have going down to would be nice to have, but could live without it items)
If you don't want mom to move in and you don't want her close then tell her now so she can start looking for Senior Housing. There are long wait lists for many of them so she will have to be patient.
If you don't want he moving in DON'T let her guilt you into letting her move in. Just read some of the posts here to give you a preview of what your life would be like if you do cave it.
The only things I would add is..... how it never ceases to amaze me how some parents assume it IS ALL about them.... as the other member commented, they should take care of their children, and if the circumstances are such that they have been decent parents, then making sure their later years are safe and healthy goes without saying. This DOES NOT mean, surrendering your life, money, mental & physical health, etc.... You will regret this if you do it, I promise you.
I believe your mother should be offering her encouragement and best wishes in your home buying decision, not raining all over it with the all about her statements.... this underscores my opinion that her selfishness will worsen, not abate.
A point worth considering .... and this comes from a Libra/peacekeeping at all costs gal.... stop and really really think about it, explore why the pouting and grudges really bother you? The reason I bring this up is that a lot of my decisions over the years have been driven by the fear of a negative reaction, and not being loved by all, all of the time. It is a daily struggle for me, but I have had to. Make myself learn to be more true to myself, this does not mean not taking others feelings into consideration or being outright rude and insensitive, but rather, NOT allowing your decisions to be ruled by the reactions of others. What meets the definition of monster? Taking her out in the woods and leaving her there.... well maybe...... not wanting to surrender your life ..... absolutely not! While I don’t know you personally, I know for myself, it was hard for me to accept that perhaps weathering the pouting, freeze out is somewhat driven by my own need for loving affirmation, and less about right and wrong. If the people in your life, especially your parents, truly, unconditionally love you, this should not be a part of the equation .....period. That is conditional love, dependent on how well you please....
You are not running a country here, just your own life.
Sorry to be so blunt, but sounds like your mother is looking for a life raft, not a mother/daughter relationship.
As to how to handle the holidays, you may choose not to discuss it, but I agree with the others, you HAVE to nip this in the bud. How you do it is up to you, but I would move forward with my own house plans. If she chimes in, either don’t respond or start your boundary setting.
I think grown children still see themselves as the “little ones” wanting to please and not upset their parents. I can tell you as a mother of grown children, who I am very close to, I would never expect this of them, unless I lost my mind and did not know better. I am super sensitive to their need for some privacy as well as mine. What I would expect and consider fair is their involvement in the management of my care, placement if necessary and continuing a meaningful relationship with me. I would never want to hold them hostage for my love and acceptance.
Hope this helps, best wishes!
Her Mother actually died in her arms. I have to watch her 24/7 she has no balance can’t do anything for herself except feed herself and that is a horrible mess. I find her food all over the place. I could feed her like she wants but I refuse. I do her diapers, dress her, bathe her, put her to bed get her up in the morning. Fix all her meals, snacks etc. the only relief I get is to put her in respite for a vacation.
My social life is gone, I cannot attend events, I must bring her along or stay home with her. Dr. Appointments, hair appointments, shopping etc.
i must bring her along. I gave up my job (life) to become her caregiver.
i do love my mother but I dread my life.
so my friend do not except, do not become a prisoner like me.
good luck to you.
You have almost answered the question yourself...you are one of many of us without kids or it sounds much family (any nieces/nephews?) to be there for YOU, so YOU have to look out for YOU. To that end, I have to say...if you're really looking for a place you love and want to stay in...the accessibility issue re stairs that mama brought up MIGHT be a consideration...but that is so beside the point. Mama doesn't get to trash your plans. And you deserve your own space.
Nice that she's looking out for her OWN interests and plans now though.
I'd be getting a note to her MD --while they can't communicate discuss with you unless you have the permissions etc--they can't stop you from communicating and sharing info...so let him/her know mama is anxious and it is not well controlled.
I always like avoidance as a coping mechanism LOL. Any chance you'll be invited away for the holidays? Or just decide, for a change to take off? Even if you hide out in your own space? Either that or say you're not discussing it on the holiday. Or maybe have the big scene blowout and tell her YOUR plan and sorry, I'll help you find a place, but it's not going to be with me. I'd say unless it is temporary, but that may evolve into a situation you don't want.
Search on guilt free...I know it will be hard because you obviously care about her, but you get to care about you too. I've seen before where kids without siblings are made to feel so responsible...
If you really feel you need to respond, you can place the blame elsewhere - this is all I am approved for, this is the only nice place close to where I need to be, etc.
As for some comments you made:
"I feel like a monster for not wanting to be my mother's roommate or full time caretaker."
Try to excise those feelings. It is somewhat natural to feel like it is your duty to see to your parents' care, but if you really don't want to or can't, don't harbor guilt about it and don't let her guilt-trips stick. Sharing space with a parent or providing care full time isn't for everyone. There are a few on this forum who will also try to guilt you (they raised you, they provided everything for you when you were a child, etc) - IGNORE them.
"We don't have a contentious relationship currently and she was a young single parent and did do a lot for me."
Clearly you care for/about her. Just reassure her, if you have to respond, that you will see to it that she is cared for. No specifics, just that you will be there for her.
Feeling like you owe it to her doesn't mean you have to take her in or provide hands-on care if she needs it. There are many ways to help out/pay back. My parents did a lot to help me out when I was divorced and raising two kids on my own. Taking my dad in if he just needed a place to live probably would have been okay. If he needed help physically, I would have to hire someone or find a place for him. My mother is a different story. Always telling me what I should/shouldn't do, criticizing decisions I made, telling me to get rid of my cats or take no more pets in when they pass on, etc. No way could I share space with her. Even before dementia there were times she could drive me out of her place quickly, once in less than 10 minutes! General rule of thumb was the maximum was 4 hours, and that was when others were there as well. Alone, the max was much lower. Now she is in MC. We tried bringing aides in, minimal 1 hr to have a "sanity" check and make sure she took her medication (they can't dispense but can check the timed dispenser and point it out.) Wasn't long before she refused to let them in. So plan B, move. She refused to even consider this option, whether it was a facility or with my brothers. As far as owing her anything, I was the one who spent the most time/effort/money seeing to it that she was cared for and placed, and that everything else was taken care of. I continue to be the one who oversees everything and manages it all. NO regrets there.
"However, we also have very different lifestyles that I don't think would mesh at all for either of us."
This is generally the way it is for any kind of co-habitation. If you've ever had roommates, few ever last a long time. Usually one or another upsets the flow and the arrangement has to change!
Focus on buying what makes YOU happy and enjoy that! Tune mom's song out. If she starts in on it and won't be diverted, find an excuse to leave and go.
In reality, we have no clue what the future holds for any of us - she could pass first, you could pass or become disabled yourself. While we can make long-term plans and hope for the best, we have to live in the moment. This is your moment, relish it!
You sacrificed and worked hard for your new home. I repeat: your home! Not your mom's; she already has a home.
Let her sulk, pout and hold grudges. So what? Your mom can put a damper on your holidays, but only if you let her!
I'll only add that I personally have told many that I can only afford to keep myself; there is not enough money to support an extra mouth to feed.
Also, when you take someone in, you can wind up responsible for their expenses and their bills, as in anything they owe debt on, could wind up on your shoulders.
My 2-cents worth is, "let her pout." Parents don't cater to the demands made by children and personally, I don't think the children should have to cater to the demands made by parents.
I always say, the unwritten commandment is, honor thy children.
For some people, telling a parent no in the first place, and telling the parent no again and again requires strength. I wouldn't wait to build those muscles.
My wife came to the decision that it just could not work. I had the 2 hour talk with MIL that she needed to respect our home, and live within our rules or go back to her house which she was preparing to sell.
Once she realized I was not budging on this decision she lashed out and attacked for an hour. Attacked me, My marriage, her daughter, her grandchildren. Everyone around her was just terrible. I did not respond directly to any of her complaints, I just calmly kept saying “it sounds like you aren’t happy here”. She chose to go back to her home over living with her own daughter.
We dodged a bullet. Our lives would have been miserable, my wife was already filled with resentment for her mother after just six months. This grieved her so much. She loves her mom but if we lived together the relationship would have been destroyed.
After she moved out, things were pretty frosty between us for about a year. But now wounds on all sides have healed a bit, MIL is still healthy in her own home, and now we get along very well. When her health declines again some day, we will find her assisted care somewhere, we know living with us is not an option.
Keep your our eye on the long term relationship. Your misplaced sense of duty or guilt may destroy the very relationship you are trying to protect. You can ensure she is safe and cared for without being under the same roof.
DING DING DING DING DING!!! This is something those who stipulate that we ALL have a duty to and should (?must?) take care of our parents need to understand!
If one can take a parent in and all goes well, fine. However this is not for everyone. There can be many reasons why it can't or won't work! Many like you and your wife found out the hard way. Some also find out the hard way that they are stuck in the mire with no way out.` Some demand kicking parent (or whoever) to the curb without even considering anything else! The happy place is what works best for all.
While it may be a noble gesture to want to do this or try to do this, it doesn't always work out like in the movies or for those few that it does work for. If one wants to and it does work, great. If not, well at least you tried. Personally I knew even before the dementia that there was no way I could take care of my mother in my house or her condo - myriad reasons, including physical health on both sides, but one CAN advocate for and see to it that a parent gets a safe place to live and the best care for their own situation.
Hats off to you, first for having the courage to take on the awful task of telling MIL it isn't going to work (2 hours!!!) AND second for being able to tolerate her backlash for an hour, calmly! Wow!
My mom has borderline personality disorder & this sounds like something she would pull. Your mom sounds like she wants a verbal fight to put you in your place. You can’t win arguing with crazy & unreasonable.
Don’t tell her another word about your new place. Ignore her. Gray rock her, change the subject, look at your phone, have to go, etc. Your home is your business. You paid for it and only your name will be on the deed.
She should have done the same for herself if she wanted a nice place to live. It’s not your responsibility to reward poor financial planning.
You need to be taking care of you!!!! I know, I went through the same situation.
Please make sure you have an insurance, policy for yourself., when old age makes it impossible for you to get around town. LOL
here is the website--
https://www.holidaytouch.com/senior-living
My mother's facility was Redbud Hills in Bloomington Indiana-- very nice--
also had an Eldercare nursing service for "less than assisted living" available.
Which was very convenient for us kids. No, my wife did not want to be in the "help his mom" business.
The second issue is how to cope now with mother’s assumptions. How about exaggerating it by turning it into a game. What is your ideal house, mother? Let her imagine everything her way. Then your turn – imagine anything you like, cloud castles in the sky, indoor pool, outdoor pool, view of the mountains, view of the sea. When you buy the house you want, it’s just a stepping stone to the ideal. Don’t deal with reality – she isn’t listening, and it doesn’t need to be addressed until she actually wants to move.