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So my mother-in-law moved in in Dec. She is demanding, bossy. Expects all meals to be served to her and snacks. She walks, talks and can do things on her own but refuses to. She says that she deserves to be waited on because she worked so many years and is old. She is 86. Living with me has caused me a lot of stress. My husband is gone all week and only comes home on the weekends. I try to talk to him about my feelings and some of the stuff his mom has done or says. For instance, I said to him, If I leave for 30 mins to get coffee down the road and she says, Where were you? Why did it take so long? He says, she probably thinks you’re cheating on me! What!
When I try to talk to him anything about his mom good or bad he tells me Stop I don’t want to hear it! He spends no time with her and doesn’t call her during the week as he promised. He also promised to take her out to breakfast and shopping on Sunday so I can have some time to myself .
I am at my wits' ends! I have had enough! He will not get anyone to help and he does nothing to help. I feel as if I am in jail.

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It sounds like he very unfairly dumped it on you.
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You need to create boundaries with her.

Like telling her, when she says she deserves to be waited on, yeah MIL, maybe you do but, it ain't gonna be me doing it. Get it yourself, get to the table and eat or go hungry.

You are the mistress of this household, you need to make it clear that she lives by your rules or moves to a facility, period, end of discussion.

Let her say whatever she wants, doesn't change the fact that you are NOT her personal slave.
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ArtistDaughter Apr 2022
Perfect answer and it might advance the issue into there being a change either in the Mother in Law attitude or a move out of the home into another situation.
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The eternal problem: Mother-in-law.
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STOP , waiting on her.

First you are not a maid

second , it’s enabling her to decline in health by not physically moving. If she complains to your husband , so be it.

third, don’t let her get in your head with the questions of your activities
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Emphasizing what ReallyReal advised, you REALLY need to stand up to her and set standards, i.e., "this is the way it's going to be."   You can create a list addressing issues in your opening post, what you will and won't do, and give it to her to study.    And stop doing what you're doing. 

If he promised to help on weekends, make him do it by making plans for yourself.   On Sunday am, advise that you have plans for yourself, and leave.   Your husband needs to see how demanding care can be, and step up to the plate or HIRE someone to come in and help you.  In fact, you might also start interviewing home care personnel (after searching, finding, and validating agencies.)

It's easy to feel encumbered and obligated, but standing up for yourself is absolutely mandatory.
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Kmjfree Apr 2022
Great idea. Maybe husband can also meal prep for mother so her meals are ready for the week.
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I quite honestly could not ever have this happen to me in the first place.
I sympathize with the need; I simply couldn't live with another person. From what I have read on Forum alone it is clear to me that once you take someone else into your own home you CAN BE virtually a prisoner on your own home, as you say. Moreover, it is IMPOSSIBLE to dislodge that person even if all in the household agree it should be done.
From what you say of your husband's reactions to YOUR reactions it sounds to me as though you may have marital problems also, to the extent that he presupposes that Mom thinks you are cheating, and to the extent you are not "allowed" to open your mouth. It sounds like the apple didn't fall far from the tree.
Yes, I agree, you are in a kind of jail. And your warden just stuck a very unpleasant prisoner into your cell as your roommate.
I would be out searching for a job and a room yesterday. That's about all I can say. Perhaps when hubby and Mom are alone all will go well for them.
It seems to me you have, quite honestly, no other choice.
Suggest family counseling. If that is denied (and it almost certainly WILL be, you know, you are on your own.
You may be much happier alone working two shifts a day and falling into your own bed exhausted, with a good murder mystery than you are right now. I sure would be.
I wish you the best.
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angryannie Jun 2022
As always Alvadeer you are very wise, I made this same decision to move my father in with my husband and me, as I think you know as you’ve given me sound advice before. Which I’ve tried to work on as much as I’m able. Thankfully I don’t have the kind of husband the OP has, and yes in her case, the best option would be for her vacate ASAP. I would if it was my MIL. But both my mother and MIL have passed. I only have my husband for support unlike poor OP.
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Your profiles says you cared for your Mom. Has she passed or is in a facility?

So, you took care of Mom so DH thinks you should be taking care of HIS mom too. Seems to me he has handed the responsibility of Mom over to you so you can do whatever u want. Like he says, he doesn't want to hear it. Set those boundries. Tell dear MIL you are not her slave, today the waiting on stops. She is very capable of doing for herself and you would be doing her a disservice waiting on her. Its called disabling her.

What help does MIL need? Do you have to take her to the toilet? Help her with dressing? Help her into the shower? Do what you need to do in your time. You need to get meals anyway but if she can do it herself, she gets her snacks. Meals are eaten at the table. If you are getting up to get yourself something u can ask her if she needs anything. See, SHE NEEDS YOU MORE THAN YOU NEED HER. Keep that in mind. When u leave, ask if there is anything she wants, then leave. You can say you have no idea how long you will be so will see her when you see her. If she can be on her own, stay away as long as you need. (U do not mention Dementia) When she starts to question tell her that you don't answer to her. When she demands, tell her the word please goes a long way. When you do something for her and she doesn't say thank you, tell her you'd appreciate a TU because, you are not obligated to do anything for her. You may also remind her its your home, your rules. If you didn't let ur kids get away with it, then you shouldn't let Mom. If she gets really bad, you may want to quietly tell her that without you, she would be in a facility because it seems her DS does not care. He has dropped his Mom in your lap.

There are people you just have to be blunt with to get the message across. No, you don't want to hurt her feelings but there are times u may have to to get your point across. She needs to know that you have no obligation towards her or owe her anything. That for this to work she cannot expect you to be at her beck and call. Tell her the only way this is going to work is she has to respect your boundries. That you need time to yourself.

Be ready for her to cry to your husband. Be ready to stand your ground. She is HIS mother. You could try when he is home, just leaving. It forces him to stay with Mom.

Lets say u go for that coffee. Come home and she starts with the "where have u been, why so long" you can ignore her. Just hang up your coat, put away you purse and say "do you need anything p, if not I am going to read for a while"

We get treated the way we let people treat us. You are letting her stress you out. You either ignore the stressors or you tell her that the way she demands has to stop. And if she doesn't, you will do nothing for her.

I may look at the marriage too. Does DH ever taken any time for you. How were things when u cared for Mom. Are u capable of finding a job and leaving if need be. Because, all I see here is a person serving everyone else but herself. And when all is said and done, where will u and DH be.
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chestershaba Apr 2022
You gave good advice then contradiction set in and you told her how to help mil. Wrong
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In your shoes, I would get a job that kept me out of the house. All day.

Weekends would be spent at the public library or the gym.

This is HIS mother. Let him figure it out.
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AlvaDeer Apr 2022
Yes, and money from the job into her own account so that she can save for when she needs to move out on her own. Sounds like the marriage already lacks some communication. I think that the wife feeling strong and in control of her life will soon enough want her own place to live.
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I am not sure why she moved in with you as your profile talks about your mother not mother in law.

Stop catering to her. Just stop. You are not a maid, servant or indentured slave. You do not run a restaurant.

MIL, there is the kitchen, there is food in the cupboards and the fridge. The coffee maker is there and the coffee is kept in that container. I will prepare dinner and it will be on the table at some point between 5 and 7. I expect you to wash up your dishes or put them in the dishwasher after each meal and snack.

Where I go when I leave the house is none of your business. As a courtesy I will give you an idea of when I will be home.

Here is the washer and dryer. The soap is in that container, there is a scoop or dispenser. I generally do my laundry and Monday, Thursday and Saturday. You are welcome to use the machines on Wednesday and Sunday.

Put her in a adult daycare program.

Your husband will not get anyone to help as the work does not impact his life at all. He does not care, because you are doing it all. Stop doing it all. Make plans for a weekend away, better yet, a week away. Let him figure out what to do.
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I agree with the others in that you need to set some ground rules. However, I don't suggest presenting them in a hostile manner, but rather by way of having conversations.

I don't know the extent of her ailments, but if she's fully functional, then you are all roommates at this point, not caregivers.

Do things like making meals together, if possible. Give her something to chop up during the day, so it's ready to go when you're ready to make dinner. ("Would you please make tonight's salad?") Have her help fold the laundry or match the socks, because having her do her laundry seperately is just a waste of water.

Include her in your routine. If she's mobile, take her with you once in a while to do errands. Don't expect to accomplish a lot, but get her out of the house at times.

You two need to have a relationship, or you'll go nuts. Just the two of you need to have this conversation, and be sure you listen to her point of view, too, and don't make the unreasonable demand that she conform to everything you want. She's probably just as miserable as you are.
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If MIL feels she deserves to be waited on hand & foot b/c she is old and worked many years, yada yada, then she should move into a HOTEL that has room service and PAY for that LUXURY. If your husband expects YOU to provide this luxury to HIS mother, then he's either daft or some kind of narcissist who expects the 'little woman' to bow & scrape to his demands! Why this matter wasn't thoroughly discussed PRIOR to the old lady moving into your home is beyond me. But he's not pulling his weight, nor is he interested in even hearing about your unhappiness, so something's gotta give and QUICKLY.

For starters, I'd take the credit card & move into the above mentioned hotel yourself for a couple of weeks and leave DH saddled with his mother! He needs to see how it feels to do what YOU are doing on his OWN! When you get back, THEN he may be quite willing to sit down and have a REAL conversation about this entire 'mother matter' and what to do about it. If not, you'll have to consider your options at that time. I would not continue living under those circumstances myself. You'll have to decide if you do, and what your self-respect is worth. You should not be forced into indentured servitude to someone ELSE'S mother, against your wishes, under any circumstances. Especially considering she's entitled, not needy.

Good luck!
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cherokeegrrl54 Apr 2022
Once again, you hit the nail on the head!! Too bad it couldn’t be MILs head….lol. I sure hope this OP makes some decisions for herself, and sooner, the better! Liz
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Time to kick her out She is not entitled to live with you, especially since her son, your husband, is gone most of the time.
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“My husband is gone all week and only comes home on the weekends”. This is a perfect set-up for a double life, with another ‘wife’, even another family. An immediate reaction from him that “she probably thinks you’re cheating on me”, says exactly what’s on his mind.

Do you want this marriage to continue? Seriously? If you do, there is no point in talking to him about MIL because the reaction is “Stop I don’t want to hear it!” So make it between you and MIL, and let MIL be the one with the stress of talking about it. If he starts in on you, you know what to say: “Stop I don’t want to hear it!”

Work out what you will do for MIL, give her a list, and stick to it. She can get her own food, or share turn and turn about with you. Likewise washing and cleaning. She will have to change if you stop doing it for her – and you aren’t forced to do any of it. If she comes up with “she worked so many years”, remind her that she got paid, and what is she going to pay you? You are the same age as she was when she was getting paid. I’d also get my favorite aid, my industrial ear plugs, and just stop listening to her.

In case the proverbial hits the fan, I would start thinking seriously about whether your marriage is going pear shaped, and how you would cope with that.
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JColl7 Apr 2022
Funny, I was thinking the same thing about maybe he’s the one cheating. Why is that the first thing that came to his mind. Liars think everyone lies, cheaters think everyone cheats.
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Ok. You tried this multi-gen living but expectations on both sides did not match up.

Step 1: Take your Man out to dinner. (Just him, not MIL). Have the heart to heart.

Explain this situation is not working for you. That while it is a hard adjustment for his Mother, she must adjust. That no matter what she expects you cannot be MIL's everyday girl: maid, cook, waitress, chauffeur & all her company. That her entitled attitude needs to be left at the door. Or she will be shown the door.

Can you both work together to set some new house rules?

Maybe, with good boundaries MIL will adapt & fit onto the household better. Maybe join a senior's club for company, be more independent etc.

If however, due to generational, cultural ideas or personality she keeps demanding attention & servitude - she will need alternative living arrangements.

Then gauge your Man's reaction.

Most don't 'get it' at first.

If so, move to Step 2:
Book a weekend away with some girlfriends.

Nothing better than lived experience to teach your Man what you are talking about.

(Except for the MILs who are angels for their golden boys & devils to their DILs... beware of that!)
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oh my word, it's your husband that is the stressor more than the MIL, in my view. You are set up to come off as a shrew, nagging, complaining and badmouthing his dear mother. You shouldnt be in this position, but he placed you there and it is a No-Win.
He treats you as a servant and has delegated (or outsourced) your services to his mama. Is that a role you chose? i keep thinking about Downton Abbey, and you went from the kitchen to Lady's maid.
Put your foot down, woman, the situation is untenable.
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poodledoodle Apr 2022
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Plan a one week vacation, by yourself. Your husband (Her Son!) will have to take vacation from work to stay with her. Then he can really see what it's all about. It might work out that by the time you get home, she's up and about cooking for him though.

He doesn't get to plug his ears when you're talking about his mother who moved in with you. Doesn't work that way. I'd lay down your law with him, get angry until things start changing. I'm angry on your behalf!
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KaleyBug Apr 2022
Make it a cruise so he can not reach her
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STOP catering to her.
Meals are made at specific times and served in the Kitchen or Dining room (wherever you chose).
If she makes it to the table for the meal, great if not she can heat up leftovers that are put away after the meal.
Snacks, leave out a basket of fruit, if she wants something other than that she can get it herself.
As long as she is safe by herself go about your business on a daily basis. Why stay home to cater to her?
By the way if she can do her own laundry she should be,
If she has a bathroom of her own that she is using she should be the one to clean it.
If she complains to her son let him take over.
And I agree that you should plan a weekend away. (a week would be better if you can do it)
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I think your husband is probably a very happy man. He has you to take care of his mom while he goes about his life cheerfully. And perhaps I am wrong here, but maybe you are a bit afraid of rockin the boat and upsetting him? You are in jail,, and the only way out is to leave. I hope you have the resourses to do so.
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I think everyone has given you solid advice. You don't deserve this but so far you have let yourself been taken advantage of most likely inadvertently. It started out possibly small and now is simply disastrous. Both your MIL and husband are behaving terribly towards you and I hope you can make that known ASAP. This life in this environment with these behaviors is not a worthwhile existence. I actually feel anger reading about it. Please find the strength to make this known and have changes made if you want to continue being in this family.
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First off it's too bad you didn't set the ground rules before you even married your husband. I did with my partner. I knew first time I met my future MIL that she and I were like oil and water. Before my hubs and I even decided to become serious I made sure he knew that under no circumstances would I ever live with her. He knew I was serious.

I know my story doesn't help you though. I think you need to have a serious discussion with your husband. If he doesn't back you or support you your MIL probably won't listen to you or abide by any ground rules you set. Him saying what he did about your MIL thinking you may be cheating on him says a lot. Does he just smirk at that or does he tell your mother to stop talking stupid?

I'd stop doing anything that oversteps your boundaries with or without your husband's okay but it says a lot about your marriage if he thinks that this behavior on his mother's part is fine
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Your Mil needs a personal maid. Hire one, it should not be you.
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Remember that your MIL cannot FORCE you to work for her. Just stop. She looks after herself, or she goes hungry. You go out when you want to, and come back when you want to. Not her business. You walk out of the room when she says she DESERVES to be waited on.

You don't nee to be angry, or to complain to your husband. Just stop.
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Ironically, my MIL, with Alzheimer's, accused me of having an affair with her (late) husband, thinking that MY husband was HER husband. I learned that an older Alzheimer's brain often can't be reasoned with. I agree with some of the other suggestions, such as trying to geta responisble person to sit withyour MIL a few hours here and there, so you can have some time for yourself. My MIL lived in memory Care, but my mom with Alzheimer's lived with us. It upended our lives, so we tried to adjust the best we could. Not always easy. Good luck.
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Get Clergyman or Counselor to speak to both your husband. Write down your daily anxieties that need mediation. Pray for patience. We will all sucuumb to Dementia if we live long.
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BeenThroughThis Apr 2022
@jacorona, you are spreading false information. Please educate yourself before you continue throwing out incorrect information like you did above saying “We will all sucuumb (sic) to Dementia if we live long.”
This is patently FALSE.

The CDC.gov website on dementia reports “…dementias are not an inevitable part of aging. In fact, up to 40% of dementia cases may be prevented or delayed.”

Why should Scarlettrene roll over and play dead, thinking there is absolutely nothing she can do about the harridan mother-in-law, or as you recommend “Pray for patience.” She doesn’t need to pray for patience. If she is a praying woman, she needs to pray the first four lines of The Serenity Prayer* and then will realize she has options and thus has choices to make, so should pray for the strength to take control of her own household and life, not be enslaved to the ugly duo of a selfish old woman and self-absorbed husband.

The Serenity Prayer first four lines:
God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change,
the courage to change the things I can,
and the wisdom to know the difference.
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It sounds like she is capable to be alone. Here are some options. 1. Try to find "friends" for her. I pay $10 for people to stop by for an hour to have coffee with my mom. 2. Be matter of fact tell her are heading to where ever. Ask does she need anything in that place and you will be back in 2 hours or whatever time, always add a bit extra for delays.. 3. she must pay some of the bills in your house. a flat rate has worked best when I have had elders(4). Nursing homes take the ss check less a small amount for their personal use. She needs to know this. She needs to be thankful your family is willing to have her. My mom got nasty, long story short, she lives elsewhere now. She is still not happy.
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Scarlet,

You mentioned that your MIL moved in with you both in December, but I am curious to know if there was ANY conversation regarding his expectations for her care BEFORE she moved in.

I would NEVER move anyone into our home without having a thorough discussion that covers every 'what if' scenario that we could imagine, and we both need to come to an agreement.

Your MIL stated that she has "worked so many years" so she should have the means to pay for helpers (caregivers/companions), and I would recommend that you present a few options of caregiving agencies to your MIL and husband. After the options are presented (minimum hours, time schedule, days needed, etc.), I would ask MIL which options and schedule she thinks may be a good fit to assist her -- especially since MIL feels she should be served, etc. -- use MIL's funds to make that a reality.

Again, I am interested in what conversation, if any, was had with your husband BEFORE MIL moved in.
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It is reasonable to just not serve her snacks or meals. Put them on the table for meals if that is how you roll or she can serve herself. She can get her own snacks. It is up to her if she wants to be unhappy about it. It seems that she is able enough to be left alone. Don't be there at lunch time. Tell her what's available and, if she is hungry, she can round up lunch. It's not mean to have her do this. It keeps her busy. Find a senior center in your community. Many have a luncheon every week. Drop her off and pick her up later. When she complains, suggest to her that she tell her son. And feel free to leave him alone with her on the weekends. Don't expect him to change anything. I hope you can work it out with him.
Don't do anything for her that she can do for herself.
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So... he moved mom in then basically abandoned you. I lived that situation, start making plans for a solo vacation. I gave mommy's boy a heads up that he's got 2 weeks to get help for mommy because I'm leaving on vacation by myself and not sure when I'll be back. I did what I said I'd do. I didn't call him, and didn't answer his calls. In the meantime, get together info on where to find caregivers etc. And present it to him and tell him it's now in his court. Do not make any calls. That's his job. Then he will try sweet talking and listening, I'd tell him I'm not talking about it till I return, and at that time he'd better have plans in place for a caregiver, assisted living, memory care or whatever it takes because if they're not, you'll be leaving permamately. Once you return, if things are not in place, pack your stuff, take 1/2 the money and get your own place. Tell him you're not allowing yourself to be used any longer. This is HIS mom.. not yours. Another thing.... are you sure he's not the one having the affair?
Stand up for yourself because no one else will do it as you know. Be strong and please let us know how things are going. WE care!
I'm sick of men using their spouses, GF, daughter's and sister's to get out of their responsibilities. We've got to make it clear to them we refuse to be used any longer. Once I got back from my vacation, he'd sent her to assisted living. She loved it because she met new people, made friends, had her meals cooked, laundry done etc. It was wonderful. That's when I knew he still loved me and wanted our relationship to work. He just had to prove it. Good luck to you!
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Easy…. Leave him and let him look after his own mother she is not your responsibility
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Your situation is going to get much, much worse. If you have the courage, stop it now, using the good advice already given here. If you value your life you will immediately take big steps to stop this nonsense. If you have a pattern of being a doormat, I see a life of sheer misery before you. Oh, and if no one has mentioned it, divorce is a thing.
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