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Thanks, but I am independently wealthy, and have Medicare Advantage. My problem is that all locally available Assisted Living Facilities tell me my income is too high for eligibility to their facilities. I offered to pay full market for entry, but they said they cannot do that. I live independently in a mobile home and pay for maintenance services as I need them. That works for me currently, but I am thinking about what I will have to do once I can no longer live independently . I may have to compromise and just use a Home Visiting Nurse service instead, and remain in my own home for as long as possible. Thanks again. Kevin.
I've never really heard of Federally funded assisted living, so I thought you might be referring to Medicaid. I just googled this term and didn't really find anything. Perhaps low income senior housing is what I would call it. Are there other (not income dependent) facilities that you can look into? With any luck, others on this site will have a better idea of the terms. They do vary by region.
Kevin, if you are independently wealthy, you will not qualify for federally supported aka Section 8 aka HUD program properties. People who do qualify already are on waiting lists, sometimes for 2-5 years. Take the advice above, find a nice retirement community with amenities in an area that you like near doctors etc. and pay the money they require under market rates.
Jjariz, if you are trying to rent in Section 8 or HUD apartment that is lower income oriented, self pay does not matter. You won’t qualify based on the income or asset restrictions. We have a community in my neighborhood that is great, but hubs and I make too much money.
Guestshopadmin - The person (Kevin1931)that asked this question said the following:
"I am independently wealthy, and have Medicare Advantage. My problem is that all locally available Assisted Living Facilities tell me my income is too high for eligibility to their facilities. "
It doesn't make sense that NONE of the facilities will take his money if he is independently wealthy and his income is high.
The header was federally supported, and you can have too much income to qualify even to apply. There is a federal program assisted living in my neighborhood that won’t take application if you make too much. NOn subsidized AL only fine but not federal subsidized housing at least in our part of Texas.
I believe you are referring to the assisted living waiver program - medicade . The limit is $1999. Per month . You can't have a savings account or 401ks. If it's a married couple it's a $3000. A month limit
Thanks for all the kind answers to my question. In addition to being independently wealthy, and on Medicare Advantage, I am currently living alone in my own mobile home. I have help for certain things, like mowing and snow blowing, so that is not a problem. There are a couple of private pay retirement communities nearby. They cost about $5,000 per month which I can afford, but I do not like that style of living, and they do not provide any kind of direct medical care. It would be possible to live there and in addition pay for Home Health Care as well. My current situation is similar to "Independent" living, but is far cheaper, and suits my style of living. I have decided to keep on living this way as long as I can, and when the need arises to pay independently for Home Health Aid services in my own home. I can probably do that for at least several years ,which brings me up to age 90. I don't know what I will do at that point, if I am still alive. I will probably consult an Elder Care Attorney to help me figure out what I can do then. I want to thank everyone who took the time to give me advice. It is much appreciated. Kevin.
Thanks, but we don't have anything like that around here. I think I will just stay put in my mobile home which has 3 bedrooms and 2 baths. It sounds big, but the rooms are a little on the small side. I don't want to live with anyone else, but having an extra bedroom and bath might come in very handy if I have to get a live-in aide. I eat out a lot, and also use prepared dishes from the local super-market, which is o.k. with me. Not fancy, but I don't like fancy stuff! Thanks again to all. Kevin.
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I. How We Work in Washington.
Based on your preferences, we provide you with information about one or more of our contracted senior living providers ("Participating Communities") and provide your Senior Living Care Information to Participating Communities. The Participating Communities may contact you directly regarding their services.
APFM does not endorse or recommend any provider. It is your sole responsibility to select the appropriate care for yourself or your loved one. We work with both you and the Participating Communities in your search. We do not permit our Advisors to have an ownership interest in Participating Communities.
II. How We Are Paid.
We do not charge you any fee – we are paid by the Participating Communities. Some Participating Communities pay us a percentage of the first month's standard rate for the rent and care services you select. We invoice these fees after the senior moves in.
III. When We Tour.
APFM tours certain Participating Communities in Washington (typically more in metropolitan areas than in rural areas.) During the 12 month period prior to December 31, 2017, we toured 86.2% of Participating Communities with capacity for 20 or more residents.
IV. No Obligation or Commitment.
You have no obligation to use or to continue to use our services. Because you pay no fee to us, you will never need to ask for a refund.
V. Complaints.
Please contact our Family Feedback Line at (866) 584-7340 or ConsumerFeedback@aplaceformom.com to report any complaint. Consumers have many avenues to address a dispute with any referral service company, including the right to file a complaint with the Attorney General's office at: Consumer Protection Division, 800 5th Avenue, Ste. 2000, Seattle, 98104 or 800-551-4636.
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Are there other (not income dependent) facilities that you can look into? With any luck, others on this site will have a better idea of the terms. They do vary by region.
The person (Kevin1931)that asked this question said the following:
"I am independently wealthy, and have Medicare Advantage. My problem is that all locally available Assisted Living Facilities tell me my income is too high for eligibility to their facilities. "
It doesn't make sense that NONE of the facilities will take his money if he is independently wealthy and his income is high.
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