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I am a 35 year old mother of a 1 year old daughter who lives with my husband in Texas. We recently moved my mother in because she had nowhere to go. She had a double mastectomy's in 2022 no chemo no radiation and started declining in health shortly after. We are sure depression has something to do with the decline but she is since been on meds. She's a long time diabetic due to pancreas not functioning, very underweight, and does not ambulate well (uses a walker and falls 1-2 times a week). She is a very stubborn mean woman and has always been avoidant of doctors and never quit eating sugar after diabetes diagnosis. She has been in and out of the hospital the past year for various issues including sepsis, bone infection due to bed sores, mostly for her sugars being off then she can't walk. She has been stuck in a cycle of hospital for emergency then rehab. Once rehab gets her able to ambulate she is dismissed to home where she does not take care of her insulin needs, other needs then declines follow up visits. She was tested 6 months ago and does not have cancer or dementia/Alzheimer's. The only diagnosis she gets is that she needs to eat more. We tried to get her help during the past year but she refused and did not let us help. APS or Lawyers could not intervene because she is considered competent. Her husband has divorced her because he cannot watch her not take care of herself and she didn't represent herself during the divorce so all she gets is half the sale of the house when it sells roughly 50-60k. She has no retirement savings or any assets. She is only 64 so does not qualify for medicare. She hasn't worked in 20 years so she does not qualify for disability money. She gets around 900 a month. She also does not participate at the doctors visits or want to go to them. I am trying to figure out what to do. I know I can't force someone to take care of themselves but I am also struggling turning my back on her because I truly don't know where she would go. I have been helping her with her insulin which keeps her somewhat level and eating. I am having trouble drawing the line where I do and do not intervene. We also have no idea when the house will sell so we are trying to pay for everything until she can use her money and spend it down on care until Medicaid can take over. I am just at a loss at what my responsibilities are and how to balance that she isn't interested in getting better or figuring out what is wrong.

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Please believe exactly what your mother has shown so clearly about who she is, and what she will not do. Sad as it is, she’s not changing. Her patterns and choices are well established. It’s kind of you to want to help and want it to all be better, but unfortunately, it will not. Accept this for your own well being and don’t let the situation mess up your home and marriage. Find mom a low income apartment, in my area there are charities who operate these for her age group. Move her out of your home as soon as possible. Then you can choose how to best help. Maybe you can take her healthy foods and meals when it’s convenient for you. You can encourage her. She needs therapy to address her depression and lack of motivation, but that’s on her to attend. Know that you need to guard your marriage, health, and finances first before anything for mom. She’s blessed that you care
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MargaretMcKen Aug 13, 2024
My understanding is that most 'low income seniors apartments' have a waiting list of at least a couple of years. Forget about 'how best to help' HER. She is very good at 'helping herself' at your expense. She is not 'blessed', she is a user.
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It’s a great pity that you moved your mother in with you. It sounds as though you are quite right, she is “unwilling’ to take care of herself, not “unable”. She is 64, not eligible for benefits, and is competent mentally (even if stupid, stubborn and mean). You have no obligation to house her or care for her. She ‘had nowhere else to go’ – what a surprise.

Perhaps what you need to do is to find ‘somewhere else’ for her to go, take her there and drop her off. If she goes to a shelter, they will probably take over sorting her out. Do it ASAP, before the ‘recent move in’ turns into her establishing a right to live with you. If her diet refusals mean she goes into hospital again, remove her belongings and refuse to take her back into your house.

This is going to require real firmness with the hospital/rehab social workers. You will have to blame her ‘impossible behaviors’, refusal of medical care, the stress to you, and the ‘damage to your marriage and child’. As soon as she is gone, remove the bed she slept in and set up the room for a different function. Be firm. Forget FOG (fear obligation and guilt). If you don't, you can see the next 20 or 30 years stretching in front of you, so make up your mind and don't change it.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
Thank you so much Margaret. This is helpful and true. I know she's in bad shape now but she has been this way her whole life so it will not change. I need to stop enabling her this way. Right now she is getting everything she wants and not having to take any responsibility.
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How very sad that your very young mother has let her health deteriorate so.
I am a young 64 year old with no health issues and it saddens me for you to have a mother that doesn't care about herself.
The way you describe her you would think that she was 94 instead of 64.
You won't be able to change your mother but you can change the way you react to her and the choices she makes.
I would start with the next time she ends up in rehab, you let the rehab social worker know that you no longer can care for your mother in your home as she is an unsafe discharge, and that she will need to be placed in the appropriate facility. And yes, she'll have to apply for Medicaid to be able to pay for it.
Her care is now more than you and your husband should have to deal with.
You, your husband and your marriage deserve SO much better, and it so very unhealthy for you, your husband, and your marriage to continue to let her live with you.
I hope you'll be strong enough to get your mother out of your home and into a facility where she will receive the care she requires, as you sure don't want her living with you for the next 30+ years now do you?
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
You are right. I appreciate your advice and input. I am going to work on finding the strength to not enable and do the right thing for myself and my family.
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“She is a very stubborn mean woman …”

This is so common on this forum: conscientious, caring adult children or grandchildren basically upending their own lives to take care of mean, thoughtless and presumably abusive parents or grandparents. Your marriage and your precious little child are more important than this woman who seems unwilling to make a positive contribution to her own situation. (And seems to be mentally competent and not suffering from a condition causing cognitive impairment.)

Thinking of you and hoping that you can get your little one away from a mean person.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
Thank you so much for the honest words, I appreciate it very much.
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Remove this ridiculously young woman from your home immediately before she establishes residency there. Her old home, senior center, homeless shelter, wherever.

$900 is enough for a studio somewhere (Texas is a big place, if she has to live in the middle of nowhere, that’s just too bad for her).

Once she legally resides there it’ll be much harder to get rid of her.

This is not something you should involve yourself with any further.

This type of elder is like a cockroach. Much easier to prevent the infestation that removing it.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
Thank you for the advice. I will look into what time length constitutes establishing residency.
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You need to make an appointment at Social Services and see what Mom is entitled to. As of 65 she cannot get SS disability anyway. It takes a year or more to get it. Seems she is already collecting SS. She may be able to get Supplimental income. HUD does have apts that charge 30% of your income. She could get food stamps.

Your Mom could have gotten so much more from that divorce. 50% of assets. Half of his pension. Better mske sure the house is selling at Market Value.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
That is a good idea. Thank you, I will look into these types of apartments. Yes the divorce situation is terrible. She would not accept help or live in any sort of reality that it was happening.
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Alli, did your mom get counseling after her mastectomy? I can only imagine how very traumatic that could be; facing death, facing an entirely different you and not having a supportive husband, not to mention the other serious health issues, yikes!

I can't imagine kicking her to the curb, even though that is what she deserves based on her behavior but, she needs help beyond what you can offer, please help her get some counseling to deal with her apathy and whatever else she has going on.

This probably won't be easy but, I would be telling everyone involved in her care that she needs counseling because of all the recent trauma and self neglect that has followed. She doesn't want to face things, that's why she is avoiding going to doctors, she doesn't care enough to do what they recommend or instruct but, finding the why of she doesn't care is the beginning of getting her to a better place. Tell everyone and ask for guidance when she goes to the hospital again, they know what resources are available.

Does she fully understand that she is playing with life and death? Not to mention her vision, kidneys and the other systems affected by diabetes? Does she want to die? I would ask her these questions, I would encourage her to be honest because she can die if she wants to, she just can not force you and your family to watch it happen.

Best of luck, these are such difficult situations.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
She declined any counseling or resources. Anyone that has offered help has been turned away. She doesn't seem to be able to touch down on how close she has been to death multiple times in the past year. She gets fairly irate when it is brought up. My dad passed away in July (they were not together) and she was rather indignant about it. As well as lack of reality with the divorce situation. She is taking antidepressants and anxiety medications but is unwilling to do anything else.
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Let her go out how she wants to. Stop helping her with her insulin. If she won’t at least take care of her basic needs like insulin, you are only putting a bandaid on a much larger issue.

or next time she goes to the hospital, try the unsafe discharge route and see if they will place her somewhere.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
thank you, I know this is what I need to do. I really appreciate your input.
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This sounds dreadful! I truly hope you get her out of your house. I agree with all the advice given so far.
I only wanted to add, I am surprised your mother has not received the diagnosis “adult failure to thrive” which my dad received when he was refusing to eat, do anything the dr said, drink more than a few sips of water, or comply with basic hygeine. This diagnosis enabled him to get hospice care. Given that your mom does not seem interested in going to the dr or following medical advice, perhaps hospice would be best for her. But I emphasize NOT in your home. She can have hospice in some other setting.
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
I am working on getting this diagnosis and referral with her new doctor. The other doctor did not want to participate and only encouraged her to eat. This new doctor just meeting her of course really wants her to go to all these appointments but my mom is not interested. I called again today to push for the referral for hospice evaluation. She is only getting weaker, this morning I found her on the floor soiled because she fell out of bed.
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I have no answer, but as a 61 year old I'm very unhappy that anyone my age would do this to there children, and how sorry I am.

As I would tell my kids , please enjoy your life and don't let your mom do this to you and your family. This is your time!
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
Yes it's a very hard situation. It would be hard even if she was a nice supportive person but that is not the case. Thank you for your kind words, they truly help.
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Next time she falls , call EMS to take her to the ER . Hopefully Mom won’t refuse . Say she is weak, has not been herself , she may have a UTI and she’s diabetic . Say these things so EMS will take Mom ( if she lets them ) .

Once there talk to doctor about a psych hold. Tell doc what has been going on . They can hold Mom at a psych unit and try to get her on some meds and counseling.

Do not take her home anymore either , let her become a ward of the state and let them place her in a facility . If you have POA , once Mom is out of your house go to a lawyer to formally give up POA .
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
She does usually pass psych evals or has in the past. There was only one time where she was so sick she didn't so that is why we were able to run all the tests to rule out anything "serious" in November. Thank you for the advice, it is truly appreciated.
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Between not having dementia & being able to sucessfull look after oneself, be independant.. Whoa! There's an ocean sized gap there.

I am sure APS have their guildelines for good moral & legal reasons. Nobody ever deserves their rights stripped away unless absolutely needed & in their best interests for safety (ie Baker Act).

But many people are not truly able to be independant. It does appear Mom is one, due to hx cancer, her current health issues, mental health issues like depression? Many life factors. Is her Diabetes well managed? Poorly managed Diabetes could be a HUGE factor here. Affecting all of her health, mood, cognition.

I would head down the NEEDS route. Obtain a needs assessment. A detail one with a Licenced Social Worker or via your local Council.

What CAN Mom do for herself? Does she cook, clean, laundry, drive, manage her bills? Collect medications & distribute into a day or week box? Arrange appointments, remember to attend, get herself there?

My LO considered herself *independant* yet family did ALL that on my above list. Both SW & an OT have done these types of Functional Assessments. Both advised *supported living* was needed.

It did not matter there was no dx of dementia. It was clear as day that if family stopped providing ALL that, my LO would be unsafe & fall into *self-neglect* very quickly.

I am thinking that if your Mom is very frail cannot look after herself then supported living of some type will be required. Being only 64 this is hard! What is you retirement pension age? If 65 hang in there. You can start the reseach now.

I was told by a Social Worker;
Have all relevant info to hand.
Research - be legalled up.
Be ready to roll.
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Beatty Aug 13, 2024
PS I just saw Way gave you The Emergency Plan. Good. Sometimes it does come to that being the way.
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Sounds Like serious depression and she probably didnt process the breast cancer which is scary In Itself . She needs help for her depression .
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AllibTexas Aug 14, 2024
Yes she did in the beginning of all of this admit to feeling depressed and started medication but will not participate in counseling which is indicative of her personality. Very unfortunate.
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Responding to your reply below that you are seeking hospice referral and “She is only getting weaker, this morning I found her on the floor soiled because she fell out of bed.”
This happened a few times to my dad before he got the hospice referral and again, worse, after the hospice referral. (My mom kept getting rid of the aides but even with an aide watching them every moment, falls can and will happen.). In my dad’s case, in his last few days at home, he fell 3 times in 2 days, the last time he hit his head and there was blood everywhere. My mom called me, I called the ambulance and the hospice and they said he should be evaluated for concussion and I said from the hospital I wanted him to go straight to their facility for respite care because he was NOT safe at home under any circumstances at home. In the facility they had his bed on the floor with gym mats on either side so he could not fall out and if he tried to crawl out, there was an alarm that went off. He only lived a few days more and despite him not being happy to be in the facility, I know it was the only sane solution. They could have multiple people clean him, turn him in bed, and most important, give him oxygen and morphine every 2 hours around the clock to spare him any pain.

best wishes to you — it’s really hard.
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35 with a baby... I don't think anyone should have to go through this, but it is particularly worse when this should be one of the best times of your life.
I wouldn't know what to do, but as I have read some say, next time she falls call an ambulance. I think your only shot is to first get her out of your home and then try and get help through the hospital. Insist that you cannot take her home. I really hope you figure away through this.
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Start at her current mental health diagnoses:
1 - She is mentally competent to make decisions for herself.
This means she can understand what the doctors (and other medical help) say and understand consequences of her actions.
2 - She is non-compliant in her health care. She chooses to not follow the advice of her health care team: the not eating correctly, the not doing what is needed for rehab after discharge... This also spills over into other areas of her life: not working, no retirement, no savings, failed marriage...

You need to look at what your obligations are to your mother. The law will say you are not obligated in any way - so don't beat yourself up if you choose to let her go her own way. You are not obligated to pay for her medications, provide a roof over her head, food for her belly...
But most people feel a moral obligation to care for their family members. If you lean this way, be a good advocate of caring for her basic needs - after some long talks with your spouse and the rest of your family (for their input and assistance). Her basic needs are a place to sleep, nutritious food (according to her diabetic diet), hygiene, and health care needs being met (needed medications). Most of her medications should be met by her own finances, buy those with her money. Use the rest of her money to cover her food and living expenses for living in your home. Make sure she gets those doctor appointments scheduled and goes to them. Make this part of the agreement for allowing her to live in your home. If she wants to have money for other things, encourage her to work or get help. There are resources to help women get jobs and get on their feet. Research and help your mom get into those places of help.
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Oh Alli… dear, please establish boundaries! Would you consider social services and see if she qualifies for benefits such as subsidized senior housing? This burden with continue to escalate and overwhelm your growing family. It’s just not fair to you. Move her into her own 55+ apartment. You can’t save someone who refuses to save themselves.
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Oh my. Your mother sounds so much like mine. I am so sorry she’s putting you through all of this. It’s so unfair.

I agree that firm boundaries need to be put into place with her. We have enabled my mom for long enough and it sounds like you have too. Don’t let her destroy you. If she’s unwilling to cooperate, there’s nothing you can do except put her into a care facility and support her as from a healthy distance. If she’s nasty, you stop responding to her.
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Your mom needs mental health treatment immediately. Her depression will get worse if you don't have her seen by a psychiatrist. Reach out to mental health resources in your area. Please don't hesitate to talk to your relatives too.
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☆Hii. I'm so sorry you're going through this. I'm sorry for us all. It's so tough.:-( Before I jump into "My Stuff".. I'll just say, the help & concern you have for ur mom is amazing & you ARE doing the best you can. Sometimes you have to take a step back & breathe or the stress will take you down. *This is what I did for my mom 17 years ago when she was about 62, I called all of the Senior Housing & got her in a really great one. Not because of illness but the house we/she had was just becoming too pricey to care for by herself.. taxes etc.
*I would send money but the overall upkeep for it was a lot for an older lady. Boy am I glad I did. She'll be 80 in a month and she's safe, the place is well cared for, they have security 24/7 & she only pays about a bit over $200 a month. :) No utilities she has to pay, No water.. they cover it all. She's been on Medicare/Medicaid since she was I think 65 so her medical is all covered.
*Please start calling & find her 1 of these Residences. It might be tougher now as there are waiting lists & now they're trying to place homeless individuals from the street or the Y.. into these apartment communities.. but get her started right away.

What I want to say to you is.. do ONLY what you can do. Then back off. I moved back home after 30 years after living in CA for 24 years & then Texas for 6. I'm an only child, 50's.. so it's tough. I am living with her until I figure out where I want to move & get organized for a little while & take care of her.. We have argued nearly every week or 2 since I've been here which has been 2 1/2 months so far.
They do NOT want you to tell them ANNNYYTHING. They are combative & somewhat angry & very argumentative. I was so stressed just even the 1st few days of being here.. I called my aunt in another city & was crying. I NEVERRR cry. My insides were Springing. That is stress.
So now, when she starts being super negative & argumentative- if I.m hanging out in her room watching TV with her, (which is not my thing but I do for her)- once she starts it, I jump right UP & walk out & go in the living room & work. Like, I can't handle it. It's nevvver a nice word about any1, it's glass half Empty, it's Always negative & if you have a different stance OFF you go into an argument.
I try not to "Hover" over over when we're out anymore. She argued with me just for looking out for her. She doesn't have peripheral vision, has glaucoma so, she doesn't see people trying to get by & I'll say, watch out mom.. she calls that Trying To Tell her what to do!
So, I said to myself, I.m done.. I.m letting her do it how she's been doing it & when it gets down to, super serious/she can no longer function/take care of herself... then I'll call & speak with her doctors who I have on speed dial & I'll call a social worker & I will place her in a nursing home.
Hun, when you feel yourself in stress & you begin crying about it all, it's time to fall back.
What I have learned.. you can't MAKE someone do something & our parents WILL put up a fight.
Let them do it how they do it..help as much as you can.. but, when it gets to be too much, call for help.. or get them in a facility. That's really all you can do & especially with, trying to take care of yourself.
We're at an age where, this stress can toss us into a stroke. So, take care of yourself.
Also, seek therapy. I've never EVER seen a therapist, never needed to, am a strong woman, handle myself, my business, have friends I talk to.. but THIS...honey, I called the Behavioral Dept of my insurance & set an appointment with a Therapist. My 1st appointment is this coming Monday. It's just all a Lottt!.
And as I type this, we're coming off of an argument last night over:: "Cold water bottles" wiiiildddd! It's always something so insignificant. So, I got up, walked out of the room & haven't talked to her since yesterday. I shut down, don't want to talk & go about my business until it blows over.
I'm praying 4 you! Also, pray for me! ;-)
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I am very sorry to see your mother in her health and mental conditions at just 64. Why is she unwilling to help herself or get healthy enough to get back to work?? You are no longer responsible for her care. Plenty of advice said in our forum is to not take her back home if she enters the hospital again. She needs Tough Love to obtain a social worker, psychiatrist, a care facility or care home and health management ASAP.
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Some thoughts here. You and your family deserve to have a good life. She has lived her life however the poor the quality has been. It’s been her choice. You and your family have the future ahead of you. Imagine your home without the strife she creates. I’m sure your child picks up on the tension and aggravation you are experiencing. It’s only going to get worse.

The next time she’s in the ER or lands in the hospital, at discharge time tell them she can’t return to your home to live with you. Referring to her fall out of bed in response to a reply below, she’ll very likely need a diagnosis that says her condition is terminal to be considered for hospice. Contact your Area Agency on Aging for assistance. Through them I learned about the Medicaid waiver program in Indiana which helped pay for assisted living along with my brother’s monthly Social Security. With medical needs such as bed sores she may well be a better candidate for a nursing facility. Look at it this way: you’re not throwing her away. You’re finding better care for her that you can’t provide. The Medicare website has ratings for nursing homes, but not assisted living since Medicare doesn’t pay for it. Good luck! You deserve to get your life back.
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Oh my I’m sooo sorry this has fallen on you. Have you considered hospice (although you need a diagnosis of 6 months to live - which sounds like could be her case if she doesn’t care for herself). The next time she is in the hospital- explain that you cannot take her back home - they can’t discharged her wo a place to go. Prayers to all of you
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I have no advice but I do offer my sympathy for your situation. I am at the opposite end of the problem. My daughter just turned 63 and has been living with me for 25 years due to a Work Comp accident that was not addressed immediately. Her health has gone downhill with many problems. At this point she is unable and unwilling to take care of her business, can do very little for herself physically, and is very depressed and anxious. She has been in and out of the hospital for the past six months and I finally got her into a nursing home. She wants to come back, sit in a chair and watch TV, while I run around doing everything.

I have to tell you I am 91, almost 92, and she does not recognize what I do or how difficult it is for me. She is a hoarder, turned my house into a place to sleep. It is no longer a home. I am telling you this because you have to extract yourself from this situation. Your life is just beginning and you need to live it. Mine is almost over and I will need to deal with the legal and medical issues. I have two other children who have no interest in helping so I am it. Save yourself and your family, and bless you for caring enough to try to help, but enough is enough.
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Oh my goodness you are the best. Just remember you do not have to bring her home it is an unsafe discharge. Dont let anyone tell you different. Thank you for being you.
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Prob best to speak to her doctor and seek legal advice both together shd give you a decent steer
so sorry to hear the helping became a burden
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I'm from California if moms income is only 900. She can canget medi cal. At that point you can get IHSS and be paid to care for her. She could go into a skilled nursing but she has to want to go. Mom knows that you won't turn your back on her so she clearly uses that against you. As far as her going into a rehab which is a skilled nursing mom has a right to stay the problem is she has capacity so the facility can't force her to stay. no means no. I'm pretty sure the facility is using the capacity she has as she would be alot of care for them so they will do just about anything to get her out. Same goes for the hospital they cant force her to stay. Nor would they even try to convince her otherwise. My question is who did the capacity ck on your mom? If she is not safe there has to be some underlying issue. Even if she doesn't have capacity again NO MEANS NO no one can force the issue. I've been in your shoes and my heart goes out to you. Thank you for doing the best you can for your mom. You might want to think about boundaries if she needs your help then she will need to follow your guidelines for her care. Other wise she can on her own find another place to live after all she does have capacity. Some times a rude awakening is what's needed. Good luck
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Spot on.
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"I am having trouble drawing the line where I do and do not intervene. . . . I am just at a loss at what my responsibilities are and how to balance that she isn't interested in getting better or figuring out what is wrong."

My immediate response/ sense of what you've shared is that you need to:
1) figure out what is 'running you' in regard to caring / housing your mother. Is it guilt?
2) While she IS living with you, you must learn how to set boundaries (what you will do / won't do) which requires you to CONSIDER your priorities:
- you have a husband and a very young child. "These" are your priorities.
- learn how you 'hold' yourself - develop your self-esteem/self-worth
3) Understand / consider you are being a 'co' (dependent). You are taking responsibility - and care - of a person who doesn't want NOR INTEND to take care of their self. Why? (What is running you/r decision making; it is likely decades of a dysfunctional relationships between you and your mother). If you do not 'break' this cycle, she will CONTINUE to drain you of financial resources and drain you emotionally and psychologically.
4) These family relationships / dynamics do not change overnight. Get into therapy to start to process through it, learning who you are and why/how and what boundaries you need to set / create with your mother.

"We also have no idea when the house will sell"

Who is in charge of selling the house?
If this is you/r husband, do it as quickly as possible, even if at a loss.
You need this income for obvious reasons.

If you mother is deemed medically competent, you need to move her into another housing situation ASAP.
- Keep your finances separate from hers (or you won't have anything left). She will drain you dry.
- While it may not be 'easy' to find her other housing, if she is cognizant to understand what is going on - that you are SERIOUS about her moving, and will go to any length to get her into a new living situation, she may 'step up' to her own plate and take some responsibility.
- If she doesn't, while it may sound very cruel, consider a homeless shelter. See if you can work with any gov't or local (senior) agency to help find her some housing accommodation 'first' - although your goal must be 'get her moved out asap.'

OF COURSE, SHE WILL BE ROYALLY MAD at you. This is her m.o. She also might be a narcissistic personality type (disorder) ... running circles around you. Don't 'blame' yourself. Learn how to change.

If you do not take steps (to learn how) to separate your-self / your history / with your mother, likely / possibly your relationship w your husband will change - and not for the better. What are his feelings and input in all this? Is he a 'co' (dependent) too?

- I would encourage couples counseling - if this is a mutual decision (to bring her into your home) and/or to keep her there, paying for everything. You (both) took this responsibility on - you both likely need to figure out together - in therapy - how to 'dis-entangle' yourselves from a NO WON situation.

Perhaps first, you need to learn / admit that your mother is not and thus far, will not take personal responsibility for her own welfare. Why not? Because you have been there with a safety net -- she doesn't have to.

Unless she is a dependent of yours (taking on full legal responsibilities - to care for her - keeping her alive), how she 'ends up' is up to her. She has made it very clear that she doesn't care about herself - I am presuming this is a life-long pattern of her behavior.

Once you tell her you do not have income / resources to pay for her care / housing (in YOUR home) ... telling her that she DOESN'T have income to care for herself in YOUR home, that she'll need to make other arrangements ... things may change. She may or may not (want to) take responsibility for what happens to her. That remains to be seen based on how you proceed.

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Btjp1956 Aug 21, 2024
I believe, as a Neuro NP, that you're putting a lot of this woman's mental health problems on the child. What this mom is experiencing is a mental health issue. She's not going to process any "do this, or" communication. She's unable to process what she can't. Intervention with a physician, honest conversation with him, and the State Department of Aging should be involved. I'm a legal nurse consultant and you have options. Don't feel guilty or allow anyone else to make you feel bad. You have a family too. I have a mother, 92 this month. My siblings and I have been banished from her life and all of her grandkids and great-grandkids. She's hateful, can't say anything kind, and everyone is a thief, she's been difficult since my father divorced her twenty-plus years ago because he couldn't deal with her narcissistic, entitled attitude and the borderline personality wasn't fun either but she would never accept those truths but she gets involved with neighbors who are actually capable of killing her just for her medication and then stealing from her. Our sister died, and Mom showed no sympathy or empathy; she made everything about her. She's lived with all four of us, her siblings and the last one wants no contact with her again. She's pushed everyone out of her life, definitely an Alzheimer's symptom, but she doesn't want to change her life; therefore, I'm going to have to let the state step in and explain how this works. On holidays, we take plates of food, and she hides behind the door, won't look at us, and says leave, I'm calling the police. She's known to the police because of her behavior. Don't blame the kids; Mom needs a mental health assessment.
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We have a similar situation with my husband’s mean/stubborn “mother” (and I use that term loosely!)

my advice to you is to:

You’ve done all that you can do for her. Time for Tough-Love:

Walk Away and Live Your Life — Guilt-Free. Even her husband saw the futility and had to do so.

Sad, I know. But don’t bang your head against the door anymore and don’t beat yourself up over it either.

NOT YOUR FAULT — IT’s HERS.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but if you dad did not remarry, and he passed away, you should go see if your mom is entitled to a portion of his social security. My parents had been divorced for 50 years, but since my step mother passed before my dad did, when my dad passed, my mom (his 1st wife, who never remarried) was able to claim significantly higher social security.
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Isthisrealyreal Aug 23, 2024
Michelle, even if dad remarried mom might be eligible if they were married for 10 years.

My mom got my dad's even though she remarried, she was a widow when we applied for my dad's benefits. This was an eligibility requirement. SSA did the sorting out of how she would get the best benefits and was very helpful, after actually reaching them.

People should verify what they are eligible for, even if they choose differently. Ya just never know.
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Unsafe discharge. Do NOT bring her back to your home. She is making bad choices and you are paying for them. You do not owe her servitude. You cannot change her. If she chooses to ruin her own life get out of her way. Your family needs you and you don’t need to ride this train wreck to the end.
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