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my mother came is a wisc NH 3 weeks ago and was able to walk the hall until last weekend. Because someone tested for covid on hall everyone has to stay in room in keep doors closed. This could be indefinitely. I cannot visit as I live in another state. How can they get away with this. This alone will kill her.

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How many years or decades is this going to continue? The vaccines dont work, masks don't work, isolating people from human contact and companionship is killing people. From the moment we are born we straddle the fence between life and death.

Better to live life than die isolated and alone in fear. Shame that families are supporting isolating their senior family members in nursing homes to what end? Why do so.many want quantity of life rather than quality of life? Things need to change.

For those in facilities who are capable of making decisions let them choose if they want to isolate or not.
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I had COVID in July. We were told to quarantine for 5 days and mask for 5 days. Mom should not be quarantined longterm.

In the beginning of COVID a friend had to go to the hospital and contracted COVID, then it was a 2 week quarantine then tested. She was returned to her NH and quaratined another 2 weeks. She ended up back in the hospital for a nervous breakdown. I cannot imagine being stuck in a room for 1 month not having any visitors and little contact. And someone elderly and not well or has Dementia...I can see dying from loneliness.
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sp19690 Jan 2023
Yes what goes through an demented persons mind when they are basically trapped in a room with no human contact for mist of the day and night. It's sick. Even prisoners in jail get treated better than this.
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Three years of this now and any comment related to Covid gets people riled up! You would think we would all be accustomed to the changes needed for health reasons. Now this new strain is showing to be more easily transmittable than previous ones were. So, naturally there will be a period of wait and see particularly with those that are at higher risk of severe symptoms.

I get pissed when people stand too close, too! Heck, you would think that those people think standing so close would move a line faster. 😂😂😠😠
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lealonnie1 Jan 2023
What 'changes needed for health reasons' have actually worked to date, do you think? No draconian lockdowns took place in Sweden, their economy wasn't ruined as a result, and their statistics were no different than the rest of the world who TOOK draconian lockdown measures to 'keep people safe', which didn't work. Neither do masks, which the 'experts' knew all along, but chose to force the wearing of nevertheless, including little children in schools and at play. A case in point is my DD the RN who was brainwashed into thinking 'masks were the answer', wore an N19 on a plane flight and contracted Covid19 nevertheless. Same for her fiance at the time on a different flight altogether. She's had the virus 3-4 x already, along with all the 'recommended' boosters, too. So much for jabs preventing the virus. She's been quite ill 2x with it, also, meaning so much for 'milder' cases by taking the jab, which is not the case for everyone. I myself got cancer 2 weeks after my first (and last) "booster", yet the MSM never reports those facts, do they? Nope. Crickets on the real side effects!

I just read an article about how the new strains of the virus are most likely coming about due to all the boosters people keep getting.......just like taking too many antibiotics causes resistant strains of bacteria that are nearly impossible to kill off, so does trying to kill off a virus with useless 'vaccines'. We should all be 'riled up' at the fraud our governments have perpetrated against us for 3 years now!

I get 'pissed' when people crowd my personal space too, but not b/c I believe that 10' of 'social distancing' will prevent me from getting sick! What a laughable notion that truly is.

Everyone will always have their 'own views' on this madness known as "Covid19" forevermore, and it's not only 'groupthink' that's okay! It's a good idea to do one's own research and form one's own opinions on things rather than be force-fed 'news' via the mainstream media these days.
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It is, of course, to keep her safe from getting covid from those in the community exposed, in the incubation period, and who may get covid. That may be your Mom, but she may yet escape it.
No one likes to be in isolation; everyone who must be is suffering for it. I hope that it will be of short duration, but I know somewhere within yourself you understand that this facility is responsible to keep people as safe as they are able in the best manner they know how to.
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Sigh.

The thing is. If the NH hadn't acted and by Tuesday four residents had tested positive and one of them was your mother, you'd still be asking how they can get away with it.

Keep ringing the managers and ask for a clearer estimate of how long they plan to maintain the isolation policy. If you don't get a sensible answer, contact the Long Term Care Ombudsman for your mother's location and find out what the regulations say.

I am always compliant with infection prevention and control procedures (no matter how half-baked and irritating), I am not a rebel. But immobility, lack of stimulation and all the other effects of keeping little old ladies and gentlemen shut away certainly do rob people of their will to live, if not directly of their lives. I hope your mother won't be among them - have you been able to talk to her about this current situation?
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That is awful! When my mom was doing short term rehab, she tested positive(never had a fever or symptoms)& was in isolation. She got out of bed 2 nights in a row & fell. She was sent back to the hospital another 7 days. She had a UTI, colon infection and was severely underweight. We decided to have skilled nursing at home.. refused to have her go back to that place! BTW she didn't have any cognitive issues prior to the whole fiasco
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lealonnie1 Jan 2023
"Cognitive issues" go hand in hand with hospitalizations & UTIs & other infections for 99% of all elders. When dad had his broken hip surgery, he was Sundowning in the hospital for the first time EVER. My DD slept there with him on a cot in his room for the entire length of his stay to keep him from being frightened. It wasn't the hospital's 'fault' but the 'fault' of anesthesia and being old & in the hospital in general. Same thing happened during rehab; he was experiencing cognitive decline which remedied a few weeks after his release. Typical situation.
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You'll get two entirely different views here of what's going on in mom's NH. One side will scare you to death about the horrors of Covid and how it 'will' kill your mom if she's exposed to it, so the NH is saintly for isolating her 'for her own protection' and yada yada.

The other side will slam the NH for doing such a 'disgusting' thing by isolating your poor mother by trying to protect her from the virus.

Which side is right? You choose.

If your mother winds up dying from Covid, the NH was 'wrong' to NOT isolate her.

If your mother winds up not dying from Covid, the NH was 'right' BY isolating her.

Or anything in between.

Managed care facilities do what THEY feel is in the resident's best interest to keep them safe. They are damned if they do, damned if they don't.

I read a meme on social media today. It said:

"Dear Plexiglass,
Thank you for protecting me from the cashier who just touched every single item I'll be taking home with me.
THIS PERIOD IN TIME WILL BE KNOWN AS THE DUMB AGES."

Plexiglass 'shields' combined with 'social distancing' of 10' will probably go down in history as THE 2 stupidest 'protection' ideas known to man.

Best of luck.
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Countrymouse Jan 2023
They also do what they hope gives them the best chance of not getting their asses kicked. But as you correctly point out, they can't win anyway.
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How do you feel about her getting Covid and dying of it? Versus dying of isolation in her room? (A cause of death I've never heard about.) Just curious.

What is "indefinitely?" Until the hall is Covid-free? Until the facility is Covid-free? Until everybody is dead? If this were my LO, I'd want it explained.

What are the state guidelines in WI? Are they following them? What are the CDC guidelines for the level of infection in that state? Are they following them?

Anyone in a nursing home who is elderly and has comorbidities, of which age is one, needs to be protected as well as possible. No, make that everyone, whether in a nursing home or not.

My sister-in-law's Covid death was horrible and painful. The coughing started around 11:00 a.m., and it took her only 23 hours to die. From her own home, she was rushed to a hospital Covid unit and died on her stomach, intubated, and naked with a sheet over her lower half. She was 81.
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Countrymouse Jan 2023
I wish I could be as confident that isolation hasn't killed anyone.
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What state are you in? How old is your Mom? Does she have any underlying conditions (diabetes, lung disease, immunocompromised, obesity)?

My 100-yr old Aunt is in a rehab facility in FL waiting to get transferred to a permanent place. They just had a case of covid and so far I've not heard that they are restricting visits. I'm in MN and my MIL's facility has cases on and off, they test them often, and the only change is that visitors are not allowed to eat with their LOs in the common dining area. I think the isolation is just as awful as the sickness.
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"The flu and c.diff kills many seniors in nursing homes , but you don't see them isolating people because of these two deadly killers"

Maybe they should. Long before the pandemic I was frustrated by the blasé and careless attitude of nursing home staff when it came to infection control, I'm sure I must have ranted on the forum about seeing staff drop all infection control protocols on evenings and weekends when management was not on site. There were (and no doubt still are) lots of people who died within weeks of "recovering" from influenza that are never counted as flu deaths.
I do agree however that many of the more extreme covid precautions are a little over the top at this point (but I'm not sure this counts as one of them)
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Sounds like this is nursing home's policy, may even be a health department recommendation or mandate. Have you thought to call and chat with the administrator? A chat, not a confrontational accusation.
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Truly disgusting on the nursing homes part. You can bet most if not all of these nursing home residents are vaccinated so what the hell is the point of the vaccine if they are going to keep doing this to people? The flu and c.diff kills many seniors in nursing homes but you don't see them isolating people because of these two deadly killers. PCR tests are evil.
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