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My mother has been approved for Medicaid Long Term Care. We would like to hire a private personal care aide instead of going through a home health agency. My question is "What is the process of using her Medicaid to pay for a private personal care aide such as a family member"? Any information you can provide me will be greatly appreciated.


Thanks in advance.
Ann

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EXPERT Ralph Robbins Jul 2019
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I would like to Thank each and everyone of for responding to my question. The answers you provided has been very helpful to me and I feel now I will be able to reach out to the right professionals to assist me on finding the right home personal care aid for my husband.

Through this journey with my husband and feeling sometimes lost, it is a blessing to have this online support group who is passionate, knowledgeable and understanding on any topics you need help and guidance on.

God Bless.
Ann
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In Texas, LTC includes in home provider/homemaking services paid by Medicaid.  They will not pay for private care but through an approved agency.  I have had family members go to work for an agency and then the client can pick that agency and request that person.
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Like everyone else here says, it depends on the state you are in . In New York they are getting rid of these services. They might help you for a few weeks, but not too long. Your best bet is to get a family member to help you out otherwise your family member will die and no one will care like it happened with my grandmom. I heard that some life insurance policies offer a long term option, for 7 thousand dollars a year, and they assign you a person to help your parent 24/7. I would prefer this option if you can afford it. Medicaid does not want to pay for everything for too long. Shows you that it is not worth working forever and paying taxes in this country.
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In Indiana mom qualifies for Medicaid Waiver. I am actually paid to take care of mom in my home. There is a home health agency that serves as the middle man that I report to, do daily reports on a software program takes all of 5 minutes, a nurse and a social worker come out monthly to check on her to see we are meeting are goals even if its just the limit of incontinent episodes. Its a wonderful program. I also have her signed up with Meals on Wheels.
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Go with the expert, Ralph Robbins on this question. His responses are the best. Nothing further.
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As is often the case, and has been previously mentioned, the answer will depend, in part, on the state in which you live and its specific policies.

If your loved one is not in a nursing home she is participating in what is known as a "Medicaid Waiver Program". In Virginia, the program she is most likely participating in is called "Commonwealth Coordinated Care Plus".

Under this program, as it is in more and more states, Virginia contracts with managed care companies to coordinate and pay for long-term care services delivered in a venue outside of a nursing home (at home or in an assisted living facility.

The managed care companies then contract with private providers, such as home care agencies, to deliver services to the Medicaid recipient.

By clicking the following link you will find that there are 6 such entities in your county.
https://www.cccplusva.com/choose/compare-plans?location=27

In the case of home care, these entities contract with private companies to deliver care to the Medicaid recipient and they, in turn, pay the home care companies.

Importantly, with your respect your question, most states require that these plans offer a "Patient Directed Option" where the Medicaid recipient can hire virtually anyone they choose, including a family member, who then gets paid by the managed care plan.

Unfortunately, in my experience, the reimbursement rate under Patient Directed Options is very low; like $7-$10 dollars per hour. which is generally wholly inadequate.

Another option which I suggest to my clients is to consider having the caregiver they prefer get hired by one of the aforementioned contracted home care agencies.

Now comes the really technical part in terms of meeting your goal:

There is a difference between a "home care agency" and "home care registry".

When a care provider works for a home care agency they are a direct employee of the agency. The agency pays for all related bonding and insurances and withholds taxes, etc. The employee may not have freedom of choice with respect to assignments, hours worked, etc.

A home care registry, however, differs in that the care provider simply "registers" with the company which acts as a middle man of sorts. The care provider is typically responsible for paying their own insurances, taxes, etc. and is generally free to work with more than one registry at a time. Essentially, they are an independent contractor.

The caveat under both scenarios is that the care provider will have to be certified as a Home Health Aide or Certified Nursing Assistant. These certifications, however are relatively simple to obtain.

By having the care provider work through a nurse registry that is contracted with a Medicaid managed care plan, my clients have been able to get the maximum benefits available from a care giver they prefer.

I hope this helps in achieving your care giving goal.
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Do you know what similar benefits offered in state of California - Medi-Cal and Medicare
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It really depends on the state. You should be able to get the information about your state by consulting with the social worker or coordinator you dealt with through the application process or simply going to the state website, Dpt of Social Services or Agency on Aging or finding your local Elder Services Department who should either be able to answer the question or lead you to the right place.

Some states have invested heavily in helping people age at home, some are still testing programs (run out of money during the year) and some simply aren't there yet. They each have the ability to manage Medicaid funding the way they choose to a large degree (staying within certain parameters), they also may contribute state funds to some of these programs so how they choose to allocate these funds can be vary greatly and it all depends on how much value (and probably work) they want to put on quality of life for their senior population among other things. It's a nightmare but it can also be a blessing if your in the right state I guess! This is over simplified of course if Federal requirements dictated that to get Medicaid funds or more Medicaid funds a state had to provide a stay home program that would come into play too and there are all kinds of Federal strings attached to these funds....
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Hi Ann,
Here is some information. Caregiver Homes of Mass
State pays for 24hour care. Usually a family member or relative.
There are eligibility requirements to qualify for AFC.
$9,000- $18,790 payment determines one's level of care.

I do not know what state your mother lives in but there are programs like this throughout the US. Call the number and maybe they can direct you further. Hope this helps.
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Lynn105 Jul 2019
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I think it depends on the State you live in. In Florida, Medicaid only covers daycare and nursing home placement for long term care...because home care is a lot more expensive than nursing homes. Florida also has no state taxes so there will be less services.

Hospices do not require Medicaid and has nursing homes, but if you put your parent in there they will let them die without food and water, and give them plenty of narcotics to help the process.
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EXPERT Ralph Robbins Jul 2019
Hi cetude...
FYI: In Florida the Medicaid Home and Community Based Services waiver program will provide personal home care services in the home as well as a stipend towards the cost of care in an assisted living facility. Adult Day Care would also fall under this program. There is a wait list for this waiver program.
Nursing home benefits do not fall under Home and Community Based Services and are available to a qualified Medicaid recipient at any time.
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Yes, But only 21 Days work of Care. After this period, Someone will tell you, Either Continue Now, To Pay out of Pocket or Look into Further a Facility for Mom. The Aide will also Monitor Mom to see how she is doing....
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Yes,you can go to allied community resources.They give you a list of private aides that you can choose from .They pay the aides.Or you can choose your own and have them sign up with alliedThey have to be certified CNA or Hah.
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Like said Homecare approval and LTC approval are two different things with different criteria that has to be met.

Is Mom on Medicaid for health insurance? If so, then she needs to be evaluated for homecare. Once approved, she will be entitled to an aide a few hours a day.
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No, she is living in an independent living senior apartments.  My mother had numerous personal care aides from home health agencies.  I was just checking to see if Medicaid will pay for a personal care aide that is not working for a home health agency.  Mom was approved for a personal care aide paid by Medicaid several years ago.  Working with the home health agencies are not working to well for my mother.  There is always an issue with these aides such calling in sick, etc.  I need to find someone who is reliable and dependable to be with her without a lot of drama.
Thanks.
Ann
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gladimhere Jun 2019
Medicaid will have rules about who they will pay. They will probably require some sort of certification. Check with the caseworker.
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When I read that she has been approved for long term care, that sounds like a nursing home, not home care.

My mom was in a care home for a couple of years. The facility required that my mom have a 24/7 attendant off and on through the two years. That had to be paid out of pocket. There are always situations where this is necessary. How facilities handle it could very well be different. Some facilities probably require a specific agency be used, but still paid for out of pocket.
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mstrbill Jun 2019
If one is on Medicaid for Long term care in a facility, there would be no money left for "out of pocket", so how could the facility require or collect payment for 24/7 attendant?
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Why would she need a personal aide in a LTC facility. All her needs should be met. And, this will come out of your pocket because Medicaid will not pay for an aide in LTC.

I think this question has been asked before on the forum. One respose was the facility may not allow you to bring an aide from the outside.
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Medicaid regulations are different in every state, and each state has different terms and jargon to describe the resources available

You mentioned that your mother is eligible for "Medicaid Long Term Care." Is your mother going to be a resident in a facility, or is your mother still living at home, in the community?

If she is living in the community, your state's Medicaid program will have reimbursement plans to pay caregivers, but you have to fit the services into the framework of your state's program.

My state (Massachusetts) offers Adult Foster Care (AFC) for people who cannot live alone safely, and who have a family member or trusted friend who wants to devote time and attention that provides 24-hour care. AFC pays the caregiver an annual tax free stipend. The program is sometimes called by the names of agencies that serve as the overseers of the host caregiver: Adult Family Care and Caregiver Homes.

Another program in my state, Personal Care Attendant (PCA), allows you to hire a son, daughter or any family member (but not a spouse). The program pays for home care services for people who need daily assistance with ADLs. But the elder must submit time slips to a "fiscal intermediary" which processes payroll checks and income tax withholding.

Community Choices is a program that provides as much support/services as needed for people who are clinically frail enough to qualify for immediate nursing home admission.

Senior Care Options (SCO) combines Medicare and Medicaid.

To get specific answers to questions about Medicaid payment for care in your state, talk with your local Aging Services Access Point or an Elder Law Attorney.
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anonymous896861 Jun 2019
Massachusetts is such a good place to age in. It would be lovely if all states provided seniors with the programs you have! 🙂
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