Mom has dementia and incontinence recently moved to ALF, still asks to go home. My 81 year old parents have been together for over 60 years. Mom has moderate to advanced dementia with serious incontinence. Dad was primary caregiver until incontinence got so bad he needed to move her to Assisted care memory facility (1 1/2 months ago). Mom has not fully adjusted and still asks to go home when he visits. He has been able to take her out for a drive, but she resisted going back in when they returned to ALF. The family will be coming to the family home for Thanksgiving and Dad wants to bring Mom home overnight so she doesn't miss out on family traditions. Looking for advice if this is the best approach. My sister and I are worried she will have a set back in her adjustment to living in ALF.
If the family is coming to the family home for Thanksgiving, give mom the chance to be with family. Tomorrow may be a whole new thing..
6 weeks is a very short time in the acclimatization process and she will be with family she has not seen for a while which will be confusing as well. Talk to the AL staff and see what they feel is best for Mom but my guess is that it is too soon for an overnight visit.
By all means have everyone visit her but keep the groups small and only have the closest share the meal with her. it will just be too overwhelming.
You need to be honest with yourselves.
Your mum is confused enough, I suspect, and realistically needs more time to settle in. Bringing her home (especially for thanksgiving) will confuse her and she will have to relive the pain of separation for her when she has to go back to the home.
Appreciate your dad's emotions, but ask the home what can be arranged in the home to celebrate thanksgiving?
Ask the experts their advice. Need to take the natural emotions out of the equation and priorityreally needs to be what is best for mum, because she is unable to understand decisions. Your dad, whilst sad, can apply reason to tge situation.
Ask about making some kind of arrangement for your dad and you on the day to try to make it special for you all.
Must be so so hard for your poor dad.
Love and hugs.
If your mom has anger issues then taking her out will be upsetting for her when it is time to take her back. Visiting her where she lives might just be what will have to be this year, it will be sad for everyone.
In my mind, I would think a visit at home with the family would be warm, comforting, just like the good old days, but that is not reality. Depending on the severity of your mom's condition, your Thanksgiving might not be at all what you all envisioned. What if your mom gets home and starts crying or is paranoid? What if she needs many diaper changes through the night? Is there someone who can do this? What if she screams and refuses to leave the house or claims it's not really her home at all?
Of course, none of those things could happen, but you still have to deal with her getting upset when she is returned to the Memory Care facility the next day? From my experience, it seems like a lot of drama and anguish just to make myself feel good about bringing my loved one to a house that she may or may not recall as her home when she arrives and will likely not remember seeing the following day.
Of course, it's personal decision. Your mom will adjust either route you go on this. Sometimes we all learn lessons from our attempts to handle dementia issues.
In the end, having two separate celebrations (yes, it's a lot of work) was something that we did for years. The whole month between Thanksgiving and Christmas was one long decorating binge for me - at one time decorating 3 places besides my home, having meals in two places, etc. It's exhausting but it was better than having a person with dementia set back from the stress.
This is different for everyone, often depending on the stage of dementia. As you can see, there is a lot of good advice here in the community so read each addition and see what best suits your situation.
Take care of yourself, too. This is tough.
Carol
Rita/Orlando FL
My MIL's AL has a dining room that can be reserved and we have done that for birthday. I have to wonder if your Mom will even know it is Thanksgiving? Can your dad take turkey, etc. over there and dine in her room?
My mother asks to go by the house, frequently. We are unable to transport her, but we also have to consider what would happen when she gets home?
My sympathies to you and a hug to your dad.
I would not do this unless I hired a caterer. Who is going to care for your mother while she is at your house? Who will change her when she soils/wets? How will she react to the noise/confusion? Does she recognize people in a group?
Is the Assisted Living Facility having a dinner for Thanksgiving? Perhaps you can attend with family? What about family visiting her after with some 'goodies'?
All dementia/ALZ patients ask to 'go home' especially when the person who they perceived put them there is visiting? I'd hazard a guess it's the only time they think about it.
I like the idea of taking her out to dinner at a restaurant, some places do it like a 'wedding' of sorts, with round tables set out for eight to ten people, around which the family sits. That would the ideal.
Another suggestion would be, Will dad want to spend Thanksgiving with her and her only? He just might. Then you can join them after. I guess it depends on your frame of mind and how hassled you get around this time of year.
In the end, it all depends on how YOU feel about this. How YOU feel the family will be, i.e., comfortable or not. Chances are she'll be just as happy in the Assisted Living Facility with your father sharing dinner with her while you have the big one at home. As I said above, then you can join them.
Or perhaps you can have a late Thanksgiving, i.e., supper instead of dinner, so dad can spend time with her a the nursing home, then come home and spend time with the extended family.
I have to ask, is your dad doing this for your his wife and your mother or is he doing it for himself, i.e., to pretend there will be a Thanksgiving like all the rest?
It's not going to happen.
You also didn't state how many would be at the house, their ages, etc.
I just can't believe that the Assisted Living Facility isn't going to have some sort of Thanksgiving Dinner along with something nice for the 'residents'.
You just need to realize this isn't going to be 'The Notebook', or The Waltons Last Thanksgiving with Mom where she, in a blue silk dress, hair all coiffed, lipstick and makeup, nails done, etc., suddenly realizes who everyone is and comes out of her trance for a moment or two.
Perhaps her last Thanksgiving with the family was last year. It may be nicer to remember how that went instead of trying to make something up that may not happen.
Look, I tried this last year with my mom, I did the whole nine yards, etc., No, she wasn't transferred from nursing home to home, but it still went south. You know what she did? She sat there and ate and ate and ate, without taking a breath, choking on her food, then sneezing (because that's how she does it) asking for tissue after tissue, not looking up, not acknowledging anyone, etc. The 'routine' that dementia patients so need went out the window and it took me at least two/three days to stabilize the 'patient'. At that time, her dementia wasn't all that bad (or I didn't think it was). Please, spare the family. Spare your mom. Keep it simple. She's never remember. It's all for you and your dad. If it's that important for you and your dad, then do it. But it won't be a really good memory or at least I don't think it will.
This way you will have created a new happy memory at the residence for mom and dad. This will probably be enough excitement for her and then she and dad can return to her unit..the rest of the gang goes back to your house for leftovers or snacks and enjoys the rest of the holiday.
That's how I would handle it. We've got the Same issues with my FIL who is at home but has cognitive and potty limitations which makes travel and lengthy get togethers challenging. We now go a wked early and celebrate the occasion, adult children who can make a day trip as well. A few hrs is all he can stand. Then we have our family holiday separate.
I figure the "holiday" doesn't have to be on the exact date --"it's a holiday whenever the family is together no matter what the day".
Don't stress over this. Offer a practical solution and I'm sure under the circumstances the rest of family will be on board.